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[antihelten]

Wouldn't that defeat/debunk his statements? Why would he want to do that? On another note decreasing the shadows if needed to get higher fps doesn't really look to take away from the gameplay aspect.

I'm of course assuming that this forum is about having an informed debate and thus learning something about the hardware/software in question. Alternatively I might be wrong, and it's just one big fanboy war, but I'm choosing to believe that Sontin is better than that.

And yeah, shadows settings are usually the first thing I lower as well when I want better performance, regardless of which game we're talking about

 

[linkgoron]

I've just been reading a lot of mixed things for this title. The always on claim seems to revolve around the console versions.

Unless the PC version is different, I read just about all progression requires an online connection. You can do missions offline but it won't count towards anything, I assume unlocking new gear or something.

Just a bunch of complaints I've read.

Indeed, I've also seen that the reviews are mixed. However, most complaints seem to revolve around the always-on thing (which sounds horrible from the reviews), but I've seen lots of praise for the gameplay itself. I've even been tempted to buy the game myself, as I usually don't buy new games unless they're from smaller developers like Wadjet Eye, but so far I've managed to hold out.

 

[raghu78]

http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/hitman-v-directx-12-test-gpu.html

Gamegpu results. DX11 version performs better than DX12. This points to room for further DX12 optimization.

 

[Jaydip]

I just wanted to post that gamegpu graph, so it seems Hitman shows the same behavior as TR, funny how it was praised earlier for it's exemplary DX 12 prowess.

 

[railven]

I just wanted to post that gamegpu graph, so it seems Hitman shows the same behavior as TR, funny how it was praised earlier for it's exemplary DX 12 prowess.

All of a sudden GameGPU is blocked for me at work

I'm not even caught up on the RoTR DX12 patch issues/narrative.

 

[Jaydip]

All of a sudden GameGPU is blocked for me at work

I'm not even caught up on the RoTR DX12 patch issues/narrative.

Hitman shows the same behavior as TR in DX12, performance degradation for both vendors across the board.

 

[gx_saurav]

I am playing this game of a AMD FX 6300 CPU + 2 GB Radeon R9 270X. I purchased it from Steam but I am only able to load texture in low quality. Medium and high are grayed out.

What the hell.

 

[railven]

Hitman shows the same behavior as TR in DX12, performance degradation for both vendors across the board.

Considering this is an AMD sponsored game, I look forward to the excuses.

Someone who catches a lot of hate and sports a cat avatar must be laughing right about now.

DX12 clearly needs more time in the oven. I should dig up that list that keeps going around about DX12 games and what not. It's not looking at all pretty right about now.

Meanwhile, you got an SNES-style sprite-graphics Harvest Moon "successor" destroying sales expectations.

insulting other members is not allowed and thread crapping.
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[Bacon1]

Considering this is an AMD sponsored game, I look forward to the excuses.

Someone who catches a lot of hate and sports a cat avatar must be laughing right about now.

DX12 clearly needs more time in the oven. I should dig up that list that keeps going around about DX12 games and what not. It's not looking at all pretty right about now.

Meanwhile, you got an SNES-style sprite-graphics Harvest Moon "successor" destroying sales expectations.

Well considering they are the only site to show regression, vs everyone having issues with TR I wouldn't say its comparable.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Hitman-Spiel-6333/Specials/DirectX-12-Benchmark-Test-1188758/

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-03/hitman-benchmarks-directx-12/2/

This guy shows them as same perf on his card - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc018BUJ44s

Will be good to see what was causing the issues for them, and why it was slower, but doesn't appear to be the norm.

 

[Hitman928]

Hitman shows the same behavior as TR in DX12, performance degradation for both vendors across the board.

Considering this is an AMD sponsored game, I look forward to the excuses.

Someone who catches a lot of hate and sports a cat avatar must be laughing right about now.

DX12 clearly needs more time in the oven. I should dig up that list that keeps going around about DX12 games and what not. It's not looking at all pretty right about now.

Meanwhile, you got an SNES-style sprite-graphics Harvest Moon "successor" destroying sales expectations.

GameGPU is the only one showing this behavior in Hitman. Computerbase (who I personally trust much more) and PCGH both showed improvements under DX12.

DX11

DX12

I can run some tests later tonight to see what I get in DX11 vs DX12.

 

[Kenmitch]

I can run some tests later tonight to see what I get in DX11 vs DX12.

Hitman just got another unkown update on Steam. Not really sure what it does at I can't find any release notes yet.

 

[Jaydip]

Considering this is an AMD sponsored game, I look forward to the excuses.

Someone who catches a lot of hate and sports a cat avatar must be laughing right about now.

DX12 clearly needs more time in the oven. I should dig up that list that keeps going around about DX12 games and what not. It's not looking at all pretty right about now.

Meanwhile, you got an SNES-style sprite-graphics Harvest Moon "successor" destroying sales expectations.

Yeah it seems now devs are adding dx12 as a complete afterthought just to have that box checked.I honestly want to see Rockstar and Blizzard coming with a dx 12 patch but it will probably not happen soon especially Bliz. I mentioned these two studios because they really seem to have any in house QA left these days.

 

[Silverforce11]

I don't know how GameGPU bench, whether they did manual scene or the included benchmark, but I can definitely say they are flat out wrong.

I've been playing the game awhile. Here's my own results, DX11 vs DX12, R290X @ stock clocks 1ghz core/1.25ghz ram, i5-3570K @ stock clocks.

I let the benchmark loop and look at the FPS towards the end.

DX11, Avg ~63 FPS. Min FPS is not reliable due to the start loading scene dropping min, once it starts, it was never below 40 fps.

DX12, Avg ~80 FPS.

The biggest noticeable difference, during the scene within the crowd, in DX11, I was getting 40-45 fps. In DX12, I was getting 70-75 fps. I kid you not.

 

[Silverforce11]

Here's the bench result with Ultra + Shadow Map on "Ultra" and Resolution on "High" (max out for DX11).

DX11, Avg FPS ~60.

DX12, Avg FPS ~71.

There is a much higher performance impact for Ultra Shadow Map on DX12 than DX11, compared to the performance loss.

In DX11, we go from 63 to 60, or ~5%. In DX12, we go from 80 to 71, ~15%.

I personally cannot tell the difference so in my gameplay, I run Shadow Map/Res on Medium. :/

 

[IllogicalGlory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SZw7XhRx6A

Digital Foundry's video breaking down the graphics options/differences in Hitman. Even the 970 shows some improvement in their DX12 test too.

 

[Silverforce11]

https://youtu.be/1SZw7XhRx6A?t=3m4s

Indeed, you can clearly see even the 970 get some major improvements in DX12 vs DX11.

I wonder how these sites do their bench and how they are getting their FPS numbers? It better not be FCAT cos that doesn't work with DX12. -_-

I'm seeing massive gains in gameplay in crowds on my rig.

 

[Eric1987]

Multi GPU support or no buy from me.

 

[Innokentij]

I really want to buy and play this game but the always on DRM + denuvo drm on top is just no go since the online servers been having extreme problems since launch kicking people out of the game and not letting em have progress.

 

[3DVagabond]

I really want to buy and play this game but the always on DRM + denuvo drm on top is just no go since the online servers been having extreme problems since launch kicking people out of the game and not letting em have progress.

I wouldn't buy any game that wasn't in a state that I was satisfied. That said, if you wait a bit I'm sure they'll have the server issues sorted.

 

[Eric1987]

What about multi GPU? Coming?

 

[Silverforce11]

What about multi GPU? Coming?

Consider the game as Early Access. It's incomplete.

But $15 isn't a high price to try it out and play around with the different ways to get the hit on targets.

 

[ultima_trev]

Guru3D's results are up, and it's looking pretty bad for Fiji...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/hitman_2016_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

...But so very, VERY good for Grenada/Hawaii. No doubt R9 290 and R9 390 will be legendary now.

 

[Bacon1]

Guru3D's results are up, and it's looking pretty bad for Fiji...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/hitman_2016_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

...But so very, VERY good for Grenada/Hawaii. No doubt R9 290 and R9 390 will be legendary now.

How is that bad for Fiji? Its obviously CPU bound when a handful of cards get 1-3 fps difference.

And DX12 was pretty busted for them so I wouldn't take their results as good comparisons.

 

[ultima_trev]

Good that it's not getting embarrassed by GM204, sure. I'll give it that.

Still, bad that it's getting matched the by the 200$ cheaper R9 390X? It seems more and more apparent Fiji was truly a stop gap and the true next gen was intended for another process node.

And nVidia tends to win in CPU bound situations due to their better driver overhead.

 

[Silverforce11]

DX11, that seems to be the limit of the CPU at 1080p, for all GPUs, including NV's Titan X.

At 1440p, it becomes GPU bound.

DX12 works well for me, since major gains overall and massive gains during crowded scenes.