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[tential]

Another DX12 game not showing the AOTS effect, how surprising.

What do you mean by this?

Edit:Am I seeing people raving about results only to be proven wrong by updated results?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Devs will get used to it and AMD/Nvidia will improve the drivers. At the moment DX12 seems like a checkbox feature leading to more problems than improvements. In the long term DX12 will definitely be an improvement over 11. Sometimes I look at DX code and wonder who came up with this.
But I don't know what Microsoft has in mind for devs who don't want to deal with lower level access. Khronos wants to continue supporting OpenGL but I guess DX devs are stuck with 11.

There is DX11.3.

 

[moonbogg]

What is basically an R9 290 is almost as fast as an overclocked 980ti. I TOLD YOU GUYS. Those Maxwell driver boys were fired weeks ago, the Kepler boys are in a hole in the desert and the Pascal guys are popping champagne right about now in a pre celebratory money pit of group orgy-ness.

 

[jantjeuh]

What do you mean by this?

Edit:Am I seeing people raving about results only to be proven wrong by updated results?

Yep, seems like ShintaiDK and Good_fella are referring to earlier, erroneous, benchmark results.

 

[Glo.]

I do not know what Shintai and Good_Fella are talking about. R9 390 is much faster than GTX 980 in DX12, and this is proving the point. R9 390X should be on par with reference GTX 980 Ti. This GTX, clocked at 13XX MHz, has much more compute power than any R9 390X has, thats why it will be faster.

Where is there not proving AOTS case?

 

[ShintaiDK]

I wonder if they found another problem. No more DX11 or DX12 benches have been added for quite a while. And Fury DX12 is next.

 

[sontin]

What is basically an R9 290 is almost as fast as an overclocked 980ti. I TOLD YOU GUYS. Those Maxwell driver boys were fired weeks ago, the Kepler boys are in a hole in the desert and the Pascal guys are popping champagne right about now in a pre celebratory money pit of group orgy-ness.

Yes in an AMD paid game.
Look a GTX980 is much faster than a Fury in Gears of War: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-crimson-16-3-drivers/

:sneaky:

 

[zlatan]

Devs will get used to it and AMD/Nvidia will improve the drivers. At the moment DX12 seems like a checkbox feature leading to more problems than improvements. In the long term DX12 will definitely be an improvement over 11. Sometimes I look at DX code and wonder who came up with this.
But I don't know what Microsoft has in mind for devs who don't want to deal with lower level access. Khronos wants to continue supporting OpenGL but I guess DX devs are stuck with 11.

DX11 and OGL is the worst of all options. But I think a higher level wrapper should be created, and it can run on the D3D12 or Vulkan implementations.

 

[raghu78]

What I want to know is if the results which are showing up now are valid or not ? btw if the results are valid then is the second title after AOTS to show that GCN cards excel under DX12. AOTS releases on March 31st. Next in line is Quantum Break in April. AMD cards are also kicking ass in recent titles like Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division. Farcry Primal. This sets it up well for the next gen contest in mid-2016 ? Hopefully we see AMD put up a good fight and a return to competition like we saw in the HD 4800 and HD 5800 days. That would be great for consumers.:thumbsup:

 

[Kenmitch]

Yes in an AMD paid game.
Look a GTX980 is much faster than a Fury in Gears of War: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-crimson-16-3-drivers/

:sneaky:

And the 980Ti is even faster....Who cares if the more expensive card is faster.....Sometimes.

 

[sontin]

And the 980Ti is even faster....Who cares if the more expensive card is faster.....Sometimes.

GTX980 isnt more expansive than a Fury...

 

[PhonakV30]

Yes in an AMD paid game.
Look a GTX980 is much faster than a Fury in Gears of War: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-crimson-16-3-drivers/

:sneaky:

Gears of war? True DX12 is Atos.other than this is either poor game engine or crap port.

 

[Headfoot]

Yes in an AMD paid game.
Look a GTX980 is much faster than a Fury in Gears of War: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-crimson-16-3-drivers/

:sneaky:

Yes, because a 2006 Xbox 360, DX9 title that was sloppily ported to DX12 a decade later will definitely showcase the DX12 API in an accurate and technologically advanced manner.

 

[tential]

Yes in an AMD paid game.
Look a GTX980 is much faster than a Fury in Gears of War: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-crimson-16-3-drivers/

:sneaky:

In Nvidia paid games, AMD is faster:

Is the R9 390 the ultimate sub $300 1440p card?

Lets judge three Nvidia sponsored games to find out in Max OC comparisons between the GTX 970 and the R9 390.

In 2 games at 1440p, a playable resolution for both of these cards, the R9 390 pulls ahead in these games in Average FPS, while in the third, it is a wash although the R9 390 has higher minimums, something we cherish a lot as gamers.
Specifically, in Fallout 4, a game we know a LOT of gamers will be spending days of their lives (literally) in, the R9 390 pulls ahead drastically in minimums by 10 fps.

Despite these being games with the Nvidia seal of Gameworks, these are games in which AMD pulls ahead or is dead even.

So even in Nvidia's best case scenarios, the R9 390 is pulling ahead, at playable framerates at 1440p.

Our conclusion is simple.
For 1080p/60hz, 1440p/60hz users, the R9 390 is the best choice currently out in the $300 bracket.

So AMD is faster in Nvidia paid games, and faster in AMD paid games by a HUGE margin with an R9 390 matching a 980Ti....

 

[ShintaiDK]

Still no Fury aka GCN 1.2 numbers. They already had the card in and just needed start the game in DX12.

I wonder what the delay is.

 

[Glo.]

I would not say that R9 390 is matching GTX 980 Ti .

It is close, but not matching it.

 

[sontin]

Gears of war? True DX12 is Atos.other than this is either poor game engine or crap port.

Why is AtoS a "true DX12" game? It doesnt even use CR, ROV or Tiled Ressource Tier 3. :\

A true "DX12" would be unplayable on any DX11 hardware.

BTW: The Division uses CR for nVidia's HFTS. Guess this makes it a true DX12 game even without the DX12 API, ha?

 

[Osjur]

Still no Fury aka GCN 1.2 numbers. They already had the card in and just needed start the game in DX12.

I wonder what the delay is.

I think they are running benchmarks for NFS (2016) as well at the same time.

 

[railven]

What I want to know is if the results which are showing up now are valid or not ? btw if the results are valid then is the second title after AOTS to show that GCN cards excel under DX12. AOTS releases on March 31st. Next in line is Quantum Break in April. AMD cards are also kicking ass in recent titles like Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division. Farcry Primal. This sets it up well for the next gen contest in mid-2016 ? Hopefully we see AMD put up a good fight and a return to competition like we saw in the HD 4800 and HD 5800 days. That would be great for consumers.:thumbsup:

I'm scratching my head too. Because the numbers look the same from when I first read the article. In fact, the part highlited in yellow market UPDATE was also there when I checked the article, just not highlighted in yellow.

Welps, I'm writing this site off for now. I'll wait for a review to be finished.

TL;DR:
Are there new benches because it's showing the same numbers I saw almost 2 hours ago.

 

[Samwell]

Still no Fury aka GCN 1.2 numbers. They already had the card in and just needed start the game in DX12.

I wonder what the delay is.

Fury is limited at 60 FPS, you can't bench it at the moment. Older amd cards are working without Vsync limit. Might be some bug in AMDs DX12 driver.
Computerbase also tried to bench it, but they also didn't get it to work properly.

 

[raghu78]

I would not say that R9 390 is matching GTX 980 Ti .

It is close, but not matching it.

Neither should the R9 390 at half the cost of 980 Ti. R9 390's primary competition is GTX 970 which by the looks of recent games is not really in the contest.

 

[swilli89]

Still no Fury aka GCN 1.2 numbers. They already had the card in and just needed start the game in DX12.

I wonder what the delay is.

Third post you've made trying to deflect and stir up some suspicion about missing Fury X cards.

GCN's recent performance is starting to validate AMD's design choices. nVidia stripped out a lot of the compute that helps DX 12 performance which is how it got much of its big efficiency boosts in the Kepler-Maxwell era.

While some people upgrade frequently, others like to buy mid-high end and hold on to the cards for two to three years, especially if they game at lower resolutions. For those that bought 7970, 290, or Fury, it looks like their cards will be holding up for quite some time.

Another implication is that nVidia was probably aware of this the entire time and has designed compute back in to Pascal. If this is true, Pascal will not have the same leap over Maxwell that Polaris will be getting with GCN.

 

[tential]

Or it's just general concern what the delay is... maybe there is another problem and they have to retest again....

I mean, do you guys really expect an R9 390 to be close to a GTX 980Ti?

I don't, but I mean, cool if it is, I'm happy, but I am not expecting that....

Odd results combined with delays, combined by earlier retests/issues.... it's not that farfetched.

 

[Samwell]

Or it's just general concern what the delay is... maybe there is another problem and they have to retest again....

I mean, do you guys really expect an R9 390 to be close to a GTX 980Ti?

I don't, but I mean, cool if it is, I'm happy, but I am not expecting that....

Odd results combined with delays, combined by earlier retests/issues.... it's not that farfetched.

It's an AMD sponsored game, so yes i was expecting things like that. Else AMD would have spend their money pretty bad.
For the tests, i read in a forum where they're writing. They will test now all gpus beside Fury, which don't have this problem.

 

[PhonakV30]

Why is AtoS a "true DX12" game? It doesnt even use CR, ROV or Tiled Ressource Tier 3. :\

A true "DX12" would be unplayable on any DX11 hardware.

BTW: The Division uses CR for nVidia's HFTS. Guess this makes it a true DX12 game even without the DX12 API, ha?

you really don't know what you are talking about.

http://core0.staticworld.net/images..._of_war_19x10_medium_dx12-100647959-large.png

http://core0.staticworld.net/images...e_rate_high_quality_19x10-100647718-large.png

GoW uses only 4 cores.True DX12 will use all Cores ( as possible ) .I think Atos bench really hurts Nvidia users , because Fury X is faster than 980Ti , right? oh dear