Vote your conscience. Ohh F$%% OFF. I am so sick of these people that are just so sure that this is some heinous world-ending event. Maybe spend your time figuring out why you couldn't beat an ass like Trump.
Not only can electors vote any way they want, it is very likely unconstitutional for it to be any other way.
Why do you say that? A federal district court just ruled that Colorado electors have to vote for Hillary based on the Colorado law. I don't know if there are other rulings on the matter, but as it stands right now it seems to be constitutional.
The ruling only held that requiring a pledge, not a vote, was constitutional and Justice Jackson, joined by Justice Douglas, wrote in his dissent, "no one faithful to our history can deny that the plan originally contemplated what is implicit in its text – that electors would be free agents, to exercise an independent and nonpartisan judgment as to the men best qualified for the Nation's highest offices."[8] More recent legal scholars believe "a state law that would thwart a federal elector’s discretion at an extraordinary time when it reasonably must be exercised would clearly violate Article II and the Twelfth Amendment."[9]
I think you would find that conservatives' affinity for the electoral college goes exactly as far as it getting them the results they want and not a step further. Doc Savage Fan said something to that effect the other day when he complained that if electors in a state that voted for Trump didn't vote for him in the electoral college that this would somehow disenfranchise them. He didn't seem to have any awareness that the electoral college already doesn't respect the will of the voters, as shown by the fact that the person with the largest popular vote loss by a winner in US history is the president-elect.
So basically it's: 'the electoral college doesn't give the presidency to the person with the most votes? Those are the rules, so stop whining about them.' followed by: 'wait, the rules say the electors can pick whoever they want and ignore the popular vote? THAT'S SO UNFAIR!'
And if Clinton won the EC but lost the popular vote, the Ds would be doing the same. But I certainly hope you admit that threatening members of the EC is going too far.
Not only did i laugh my ass off at this joke, everyone i've told it to so far is still laughing.Martin Sheen and the Hollywood left idiocy say a grossly unqualified person should not be president; others say just let Obama finish his term.
your not supposed to laugh out here. this is oh so serious liberal business.Not only did i laugh my ass off at this joke, everyone i've told it to so far is still laughing.
and yes in 7 minutes you can make a few calls
Really? Honestly all the shady political behavior in the last year is coming from one side. Let's be real here. I can easily write a long ass post of shady GOP bullshit that has gone down this year. Heck even this week in NC since the GOP governor has lost and the new governor is a Democrat, the GOP house and senate has moved to swiftly pass borderline unconstitutional legislation limiting the powers of the incoming governor as a means to hamstring him.And if Clinton won the EC but lost the popular vote, the Ds would be doing the same. But I certainly hope you admit that threatening members of the EC is going too far.
Really? Honestly all the shady political behavior in the last year is coming from one side. Let's be real here. I can easily write a long ass post of shady GOP bullshit that has gone down this year. Heck even this week in NC since the GOP governor has lost and the new governor is a Democrat, the GOP house and senate has moved to swiftly pass borderline unconstitutional legislation limiting the powers of the incoming governor as a means to hamstring him.
maybe because it's about more than the money, something drumpf would never understandWhy are the so worried. Trump is one of them, he is not going to take away thier yachts,limos,mansions,private jets,10M+ mansions with 20 rooms or more.
Slavery was just the powder keg in a broader conversation on the balance between a strong centralized federal government and maintaining the states as autonomous incubators focused on providing more intimate and localized governance. The whole Hamilton vs Jefferson cage match. The electoral college was a nuanced and well designed compromise between the two.Nope, I've been against the electoral college my whole life, regardless of the outcome of elections. Liberals are most certainly not ignorant of the purpose of the electoral college, it's just that its purpose is stupid and was originally primarily to protect slavery. We already have a system heavily biased against majority rule, no reason to take that even further.
Bad attempt at false equivalence. There is no disconnect between saying 'this system is bad and we should get rid of it, but so long as it exists all the rules count'. This is in marked contrast to conservatives who believe that not respecting the popular vote is a feature immediately up until someone might not respect the popular vote in a way that hurts conservatives. Then it's suddenly unfair.
Slavery was just the powder keg in a broader conversation on the balance between a strong centralized federal government and maintaining the states as autonomous incubators focused on providing more intimate and localized governance. The whole Hamilton vs Jefferson cage match. The electoral college was a nuanced and well designed compromise between the two.
Also false equivalency not found. Playing both sides of a coin is hypocritical no matter who is making the toss. Disliking the status quo but willing to accept aspects of it when it works in your favor is no less hypocritical than supporting the status quo but not liking when certain aspects work against you.
I am wasabi dusted nutty, except in October, when I am pumpkin spice dusted nutty.What? Of course it is. Are you nuts?
Why do we hold these so-called founding fathers in such high regard?
Why do we hold these so-called founding fathers in such high regard?
You're missing the point. The special snowflakes were told no. In their minds, no nation has ever failed so totally as that....... and we have a late entrant for the dumbest post of the year race
Lets see, perhaps we hold them in high regard for, oh, I dunno, creating the framework that established the most powerful country in the history of the world? A framework that continues to work to this day when other systems have failed all over the place.
You're missing the point. The special snowflakes were told no. In their minds, no nation has ever failed so totally as that.
It's extremely mentally taxing playing the victim card 24/7. It's why they're so jealous of the safe spaces they used to bitch about, but clearly need for themselves now that their Strongman has won the election.It's always funny to see the people who think they are endlessly oppressed by any number of conspiracies of the powerful try and call other people special snowflakes.
You guys really don't see the irony, do you?