holy crap, san fran has so many hobos!

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monkeydelmagico

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If I was a drunk mental hobo I'd want to get the handouts I am entitled to in san diego not san francisco. San fran is played out with too many hobo's per per square handout. I hear san antonio is nice too. anything with a san in front of it cuz that means good eats.
 
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zinfamous

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It's like whisky and bourbon. Some people think they are totally interchangeable. And yes they are bums.

Not saying "to hell with democrats" , but there seems to be a correlation with welfare, liberals and budgets.

simply, a bum begs for money with no service for payment.

hobos work for money.
 

Broheim

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sigøjnere?

I think a large part of them are gypsies yeah, but I'd guess that just as many are your garden variety scum as well. The media really focused on it over the summer because it has gotten so bad in Copenhagen. Other than crime they bring a whole other set of problems with them, they try and take over the shelters, they rummage through garbage like raccoons leaving a god awful mess, they sleep wherever they like and again leave a god awful mess and they specifically target tourists and drive them away.

I fucking hate gypsies though.
 
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baydude

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Ok I've lived in SF for about a year now and here are my thoughts. SF is one of the most financially mismanaged cities on earth.

The city closed down a mental hospital a couple years ago and decided to just pay for all the mental patient's rent and food since it'd be cheaper. Most of these mental patients were bums and crack addicts. I live in a high rise studio and it costs about $2100/month just for a 450 sq ft studio. Now every time when I go in the elevator to get too my studio, it's always an interesting mixed crowd. You'll see the rich Lamborghini and Ferrari owners going up the penthouse floor, the other working professionals somewhere in the middle. And the hippies and crackheads getting their $2k/month rent paid for somewhere on the lower floors.
 

Pray To Jesus

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The city closed down a mental hospital a couple years ago and decided to just pay for all the mental patient's rent and food since it'd be cheaper. Most of these mental patients were bums and crack addicts.

I live in a high rise studio and it costs about $2100/month just for a 450 sq ft studio. Now every time when I go in the elevator to get too my studio, it's always an interesting mixed crowd. You'll see the rich Lamborghini and Ferrari owners going up the penthouse floor, the other working professionals somewhere in the middle. And the hippies and crackheads getting their $2k/month rent paid for somewhere on the lower floors.

That's liberalism at work.
 

Mxylplyx

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It seems that many conservatives here believe that simply criminalizing homelessness will make it go away. Out of sight out of mind. Do tell, what would you do with them? Sneer at the mentally ill addict, tell them to get a job, and then pat yourself on the back for a job well done?
 
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bumming money in an attempt to play off people's emotions is disgusting. I would put it on the level of rape. Oh -- You're hungry... but you don't want an apple? You just want money? Oh you must have it hard...
 

akahoovy

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Ok I've lived in SF for about a year now and here are my thoughts. SF is one of the most financially mismanaged cities on earth.

The city closed down a mental hospital a couple years ago and decided to just pay for all the mental patient's rent and food since it'd be cheaper. Most of these mental patients were bums and crack addicts. I live in a high rise studio and it costs about $2100/month just for a 450 sq ft studio. Now every time when I go in the elevator to get too my studio, it's always an interesting mixed crowd. You'll see the rich Lamborghini and Ferrari owners going up the penthouse floor, the other working professionals somewhere in the middle. And the hippies and crackheads getting their $2k/month rent paid for somewhere on the lower floors.

That's a very unfortunate situation. It's also astounding to hear stories like that.
 

LTC8K6

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It's a sanctuary city for several groups of people that would otherwise be dealt with in the legal system, iirc.
 

LTC8K6

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It seems that many conservatives here believe that simply criminalizing homelessness will make it go away. Out of sight out of mind. Do tell, what would you do with them? Sneer at the mentally ill addict, tell them to get a job, and then pat yourself on the back for a job well done?

Well, the mentally ill used to be committed for treatment.

The discussion about that practice would be a long one, I suspect.

But they weren't living on the streets...
 

Markbnj

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Jesus was a liberal

Probably, yeah. He was clearly a hippy: worked as a carpenter, quit his job, hit the road with a few bros and a couple chicks, bumming food and wine, camping under the olive trees and expounding on philosophy, oppressed by the man, and ultimately persecuted to his death by conformists.
 

Markbnj

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It seems that many conservatives here believe that simply criminalizing homelessness will make it go away. Out of sight out of mind. Do tell, what would you do with them? Sneer at the mentally ill addict, tell them to get a job, and then pat yourself on the back for a job well done?

Oh please. The only difference between liberals and conservatives on this issue is that liberals want the government to make the homeless go away, and conservatives yearn for the time when churches and civic groups would disappear them. Both groups prefer not to be worked on the street for spare change.
 

tboo

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Oh please. The only difference between liberals and conservatives on this issue is that liberals want the government to make the homeless go away, and conservatives yearn for the time when churches and civic groups would disappear them. Both groups prefer not to be worked on the street for spare change.

+1
 

JamesV

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I got out of the Army in 1992, and was sent to SF for out-processing.

Due to my circumstances, I had about $10, and couldn't draw from my pay, including the nearly 60 days of leave I never used (they pay you for you days you do not use).

So I'm walking off base, and a bum comes up and asks me for money, and I reply "I'm just getting out of the Army, I don't have any money man," and I laughed.

He replied something like "no shit? I was in Vietnam" and we got talking. Dude took me along and showed me how to bum money off people, including getting into a cab and asking the cab driver for a buck... never asked anyone for anything, and this guy kinda took me under his wing.

We gathered about $60 and ate well, had a few drinks, and it is something I'll never forget. One of those defining moments in life that made me a believer in good human decency, even if it was at the expense of a dollar or two from some entitled rich wanker.

Learned a good lesson that day. Looks can be deceiving, and every bum/hobo/homeless person isn't just out there to take money for themselves.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I got out of the Army in 1992, and was sent to SF for out-processing.

Due to my circumstances, I had about $10, and couldn't draw from my pay, including the nearly 60 days of leave I never used (they pay you for you days you do not use).

So I'm walking off base, and a bum comes up and asks me for money, and I reply "I'm just getting out of the Army, I don't have any money man," and I laughed.

He replied something like "no shit? I was in Vietnam" and we got talking. Dude took me along and showed me how to bum money off people, including getting into a cab and asking the cab driver for a buck... never asked anyone for anything, and this guy kinda took me under his wing.

We gathered about $60 and ate well, had a few drinks, and it is something I'll never forget. One of those defining moments in life that made me a believer in good human decency, even if it was at the expense of a dollar or two from some entitled rich wanker.

Learned a good lesson that day. Looks can be deceiving, and every bum/hobo/homeless person isn't just out there to take money for themselves.

Uh, so for whom were you taking money?
 

sportage

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Got to give them credit for the smarts to chose hobo ing in CA over working the drive thru window for $7 an hour and freezing to death somewhere in Midwest bible land USA.
I mean there's nuts, there's crazy nuts, and there's numnuts.

Besides, hobo is a term from the 1930's referring to a victim of the crash, jobless, riding the rails. That Willy Nelson type. They were an interesting group. Developed a language all their own.
My grandmother lived by the tracks. Told of hobos riding the rails, showing up at her back door asking for handouts. She gave then jelly and or peanut butter sandwiches. Never meat. If anyone handed out meat sandwiches, the word got around and every hobo passing by ended up at that door.

The government and FDR started the work programs hiring and paying these guys to build roads, parks, etc. Saved the country. Today's republican congress would have never allowed such a thing, preferring instead the country fail.
Just like we will all soon experience once again.
 

pcgeek11

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Jun 12, 2005
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Got to give them credit for the smarts to chose hobo ing in CA over working the drive thru window for $7 an hour and freezing to death somewhere in Midwest bible land USA.
I mean there's nuts, there's crazy nuts, and there's numnuts.

Besides, hobo is a term from the 1930's referring to a victim of the crash, jobless, riding the rails. That Willy Nelson type. They were an interesting group. Developed a language all their own.
My grandmother lived by the tracks. Told of hobos riding the rails, showing up at her back door asking for handouts. She gave then jelly and or peanut butter sandwiches. Never meat. If anyone handed out meat sandwiches, the word got around and every hobo passing by ended up at that door.

The government and FDR started the work programs hiring and paying these guys to build roads, parks, etc. Saved the country. Today's republican congress would have never allowed such a thing, preferring instead the country fail.
Just like we will all soon experience once again.

Yep as soon as Obummer Care kicks in real good!
 

brianmanahan

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Sep 2, 2006
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Got to give them credit for the smarts to chose hobo ing in CA over working the drive thru window for $7 an hour and freezing to death somewhere in Midwest bible land USA.
I mean there's nuts, there's crazy nuts, and there's numnuts.

umm, no
 
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