Holy crap that's a big moose

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Squisher

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It takes a special kind of idiot to think that hunters don't go for headshots because it would spoil the trophy.
Do know what it costs to get a moose head mounted? Do you know what percent of game kills get mounted?

What kind of hat do you wear?



btw-I'm glad this wasn't a pliablemoose.
 

brblx

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Mar 23, 2009
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You have no idea what you're talking about and obviously have never been hunting. I hate hunting because it's boring as hell but I've been multiple times and you sir, don't know anything about it.

exactly what part of my post says that to you? that i plainly admit that i've never hunted with a bow and had assumed it would down a 'typically' sized deer fairly quickly? or that i know for a fucking fact that a deer drops pretty damn fast from a well-placed slug?

i luff people who will reply to 'i don't know' or 'i'm not sure' with 'lulz you's is wrong!' just to feel better about themselves.

i have not represented myself to be an expert on anything. yet i do not retract any statement i've made about the douchery of hunters like those in the OP. i'm not quite sure what you all are even criticizing, honestly. the only arguable point i've put up is whether you can kill a moose with a shot to the head. or even how a shot to the body would fare. surely would be far more humane, since you would blow a decent sized hole in it's chest, rather than having to fucking stab it in the lung with a barbed stick.

on the skull thing, yeah, you can argue for the round ricocheting off, but guess when that happens? when someone gets rushed by a bear and fires a low velocity round at its broad, sloping skull from a straight on POV. a decent number of incidents have somehow led to this legend of the magic bulletproof bear skull.

if you're hunting, not hunted, you're probably going to shoot it from the side. and sorry, but i think anyone who says shooting a moose in the side of the head with a .308 will not kill it is just a big sillypants.
 

Squisher

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Let me get this straight, you know nothing about hunting yet dispute the common practices that hunters use that they have honed with over 2 million years of trial and error.

Pardon me while I tell all the brain surgeons how they are all doing it wrong.
 

foghorn67

Lifer
Jan 3, 2006
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uh, yeah, he missed.

i'm no moose anatomy expert, but the best he did was hit it in the liver. not even close to the heart or lungs.

also cool how mods can tell people to STFU as much as they want, the rest of us get warnings.

close your brainbucket, your lime jello will fall out.


YHPM

ATOT Moderator ElFenix
Well, I'm no moose expert either, but I used to hunt boar with a bow. There is no "happy" kill shot with beasts.
My opinion still stands, you are a sad and bitter man.
 

brblx

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Let me get this straight, you know nothing about hunting yet dispute the common practices that hunters use that they have honed with over 2 million years of trial and error.

Pardon me while I tell all the brain surgeons how they are all doing it wrong.

two things in play here-

1) you have no reading comprehension. i said i knew nothing about BOW hunting. i do not claim to be a skilled hunter but FFS i'm from the south. i've been hunting, like, twice. yes, that's a pathetic amount to claim to be a master hunter, but i don't think i ever claimed that. and there are obviously tons of hunters in tennessee, so it stands to reason i'm a BIT versed in their culture, since i often work with or am otherwise around them.

2) you still have no reading comprehension. i didn't say 'OMGZ HE DIDN'T GO FOR THE HEADSHOT! N00B!' i simple said that it's a lot more humane/makes you look like less of a psychopath to kill an animal with a head or chest shot with an appropriately sized rifle round than to try and stick it with an arrow. obviously would not recommend a shotgun round to the head, as it's going to be more likely to cause mostly blunt trauma instead of penetrating the skull. and yeah, i'm well aware that shooting for heart and lungs is the common practice to give the highest liklihood of a lethal wound- the head and neck are lethal, yeah, but if you don't hit the brain or the spine, they could live long enough to evade you.

i guess basically it's all a crapshoot. i just don't understand what kind of sick fuck gets off on doing it in the LEAST likely way to deliver an efficient kill- and in a way that is ultimately dumb and cheap.
 

DrPizza

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I'll be 45 this hunting season. I bow hunt, and I hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun (plus a .22 or 410 for small game, and occasionally a 20 gauge.) I shoot deer every year. In all my years of hunting, I have only ONCE had a deer drop in the spot where I shot it. And, after I shot, the deer just stood there for what seemed like an eternity - I thought I missed, took careful aim, and shot again! It continued to just stand there. As I was about to pull the trigger for the 3rd time, thinking something serious was wrong with the aim on my gun, the deer finally collapsed right where he was standing. Both shots were in the ideal placement. Other than that deer, the average deer runs at least 30 yards before dropping. The last deer I shot was a double lung shot (you do NOT aim for the head, you do NOT aim for the heart.) It ran off with multiple other deer that were around it. When I started tracking it, I could tell from the type of spray/color of the blood that it was a lung shot. Within 10 yards, there was no more blood. With all the other deer tracks criss crossing, I had to retrack it multiple times before I followed the correct set of tracks. At a guess, I'd say it went for 5 to 10 seconds. At the speed a deer runs, 5 to 10 seconds can be a considerable distance.

My first year of hunting - zero deer. My second year of hunting, I was slowly stalking through a thick area. I saw a big buck stand up and look at me from behind a large fallen tree. All I had a view of was his neck and head. I had been taught not to take a head shot, but I did anyway. 12 gauge shotgun. I spent the better part of an hour tracking that deer before I was able to take a kill shot. It would almost certainly have survived the head shot.

I've never seen, but have heard occasional stories from friends about deer they had put out of their misery - idiots (like me with my first deer) had taken a head shot. Mine had merely glanced off the skull (but apparently giving him a concussion or something, because his behavior was very weird.) But other head shots gone wrong can lead to a jaw shot off, or half a face shot off, with the animal surviving until it starves to death or something. Not humane at all & why you do NOT aim for the head, at least not on the initial shot.

As far as a compound bow being for sissies? Whoever said that is also ignorant, especially if they're going to advocate for a clean kill & would support the use of a gun. Compound bows are more accurate, less susceptible to accuracy changes due to weather related factors, and shoot faster. It's nice for the arrow to get there before the animal moves much. As far as the humaneness - an arrow will punch right through a sandbag that would stop a slug. Arrows kill by cutting and bleeding, rather than by blunt force trauma. Most shots go in one side and out the other. I had one friend relate how he shot a deer with his bow; the deer stopped for a second, put its head back down to continue browsing, and about 5 seconds later, just fell over. It hadn't even realized it had been shot. If your only experience with compound bows is bows in a high school gym class that are dialed in so that kids can draw them back, then I have no doubt you think "anyone could draw it back." I took my bow in to where I worked once. Only ONE of the guys working there could draw it back. All of the bow hunters I know put considerable time into practicing with their bow. In fact, far more time than they put into practicing with their guns. But, I don't think some of you understand quite how powerful modern compound bows are and how well they transfer the stored energy into the arrows. Do you think a sheet of plywood would make a good back stop for a bow? Once upon a time, I thought so. An arrow went through a filled box target, penetrating right in a corner where the foam wasn't packed in tight enough, exiting the box, hitting the plywood, passing cleanly through the plywood, hitting my garage door, putting a hole through the door, and lodging in a 2x4 on the other end of the garage. I took a shot at a walking fox last year and hit a small dead tree (too focused on the fox, and as I was swinging, I never even noticed the tree), about 4 inch diameter. It split off a huge hunk of the tree. Compound bows are very deadly weapons.
 

BladeVenom

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Moose aren't afraid enough of people to make it challenging. Moose season should only be with spears or swords.
 

Mr. Lennon

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I don't have an ethical problem with people hunting, but it does seem to me you have to have a pretty hard heart to kill a huge, beautiful animal like that just for sport. Not my cup of tea at all.

I think the trick is to not have a heart at all.
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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hope that piece of shit gets trampled to death for poking a stick into a wild animal's fucking stomach for no good reason. ...yeah i have tons of respect for people who refuse to kill an animal cleanly because it's not amusing enough.
oh, and to the 'purist' bow-hunters:

congrats, you're still a pussy. come back when you don't need compound pulley action to slowly kill an animal for no reason.
uh, if you shoot it in the appropriate place with an appropriate weapon, yeah, it's just like 'the movies;' in the movies, when someone is shot in the head or chest with a large caliber weapon, they die.

if the cousinfucker in the OP wasn't so concerned with hanging its head on his wall to compensate for his little dick, he could've just shot the goddamn thing in the head with a high caliber rifle for wherever the hell he wanted.

i mean, technically, he could've. he obviously wouldn't have since he missed with a bow at like three feet.
uh, yeah, he missed.

i'm no moose anatomy expert, but the best he did was hit it in the liver. not even close to the heart or lungs.
and whoever said 'big game have thick skulls, can't headshot,' or something to that effect- give me a break. you're just parroting an excuse used by those who won't risk damaging their 'prize.' if someone can provide some kind of evidence that a standard high caliber rifle round like a .308 (which iirc is still one of the weaker rounds of its size, .300 win mag ang some of the others have a good bit more energy) will not kill large game, i'll eat my fucking hat. if it has the energy to get through a steel plate, it PROBABLY has the energy to shatter and penetrate a skull.
if you're hunting, not hunted, you're probably going to shoot it from the side. and sorry, but i think anyone who says shooting a moose in the side of the head with a .308 will not kill it is just a big sillypants.
i just don't understand what kind of sick fuck gets off on doing it in the LEAST likely way to deliver an efficient kill- and in a way that is ultimately dumb and cheap.

Tell me again that I have no reading comprehension when I said you come off as someone that sounds like a know-it-all when you obviously know nothing about the topic. Either those times you went out hunting were with people that were as accomplished hunters as you, or they didn't communicate good hunting practices, or you didn't bother to listen. You also completely contradict yourself in abrading the hunter for killing at close range. Maybe, he should have backed up and given the moose a fighting chance and increase the likelihood that he'd miss the shot. A hunter's job is to put themselves in a position to most effectively kill the game. Yeah, this hunter was douche because he did his job too well.
 
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Analog

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I've bow hunted for over 20 years (only whitetail), but I believe his shot wasn't ideal. I've shot deer with a bow that have dropped, but that is pretty rare. They usually run a bit. The most interesting shot was one where the arrow went clean through and blood poured out both sides and the deer just walked 10 steps and fell over.
 
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