holy ****, is india really this filthy of a country?

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CurrentTV did a good documentary in the Vanguard documentary series on the 'global toilet crisis', as rural populations need basic education on the health issues.

It covers India's open air problem and how the river gets polluted, and cultural issues around the river, but also a village in Indonesia showing change and education.

I think it's a very good documentary, and you can watch it for free:
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/92482205_worlds-toilet-crisis.htm

Charming facts from the documentary's first 5 minutes:

- Los Angeles' sewage treatment facility gets enough excrement to fill three Rose-bowl stadiums every day

- 3.2 billion people don't have toilets

- In India, 1000 children are killed every day by disease from exposure to excrement

On another note, I've had a cultural comment I heard on Inida:

The culture there is that public areas don't matter to keep clean, it's indoor ones, so people will trash the street outside their home but keep the home very clean.

On a slightly related note, Mad Men made a point about how the US was a bit closer to this in the 1960's, where the family went out for a picnic, and when they were done, they just dumped all their trash off the blanket and left it there, without any notice of the pollution - based on cultural norms at the time - and if it's hard to remember that, remember how the US government had a major education program to get the US public not to litter in the Eisenhower to Nixon period - when the EPA was created as well.

Ever see this public education campaign (from when the government served the public interest rather than the polluters like the Koch brothers)?



Flush toilets weren't really invented until the mid 19th century; consumer toilet paper only started being made in the US a little over a century ago. From one web site:

That is a great documentary. Respect to Adam who lost it a few times...
I do have to note that after watching this documentary, i am happy i went to a very healthy diet. The healthier i eat, the less i need to shit. Also, without doing an extreme fitness regime, my waist has been shrinking ever since and i am feeling a lot of healthier too and getting better signaling from my digestive system.

The best way to tackle the human excrement waste problem in the developed world is to consume only the food that is needed in general and only once in a while enjoy a food feast where one eats a little and enjoys a little more then usual.

To shit a lot is to eat a lot. No human digestive system is the other side of a wormhole. Unless of course you have been touching contaminated feces while eating...
 
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lxskllr

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Aside from the whole argument of Western ethics on this, I'm amazed that with that type of hygiene and population density there isn't waves of disease ripping through their cities. I'm wondering if their immune systems are actually horribly resilient from the constant bombardment they receive.

That's what I was thinking. There's no way in hell I'd get in that river. I scraped my knuckles on a rock in Tohichan creek in PA. Whatever was in the water made my hand swell up, and ooze copious amounts of puss. That creek is bottled alpine spring water in comparison to Ganges.
 
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That's what I was thinking. There's no way in hell I'd get in that river. I scraped my knuckles on a rock in Tohichan creek in PA. Whatever was in the water made my hand swell up, and ooze copious amounts of puss. That creek is bottled alpine spring water in comparison to Ganges.

As many local "Doom thinkers" have mentioned :"It is a disaster of diseases waiting to happen". And of course it is already happening. Thousands of children die every day needlessly because of diseases begotten from exposure to organisms living in excrements and rotting tissue. We in the west know this, a mere century ago, it happened in the west all too often also. WW1 was a very good example of how diseases kill...
 

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"I'm wondering if their immune systems are actually horribly resilient from the constant bombardment they receive. "

Pretty much
 

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India, China, Israel, etc... if you take a walk off of the main road - all of them have disposal issues. If you stay within the "tourist" areas - they are relatively clean and sanitary.

After seeing the pix in the OP's post - Russell Peters wasn't kidding about his trip to India... he just had the knack for making it humorous.
 
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"I'm wondering if their immune systems are actually horribly resilient from the constant bombardment they receive. "

Pretty much

They age a lot quicker though...
Even with a lot of healthy food, it shows. But there is one thing that we all must not forget. Stress. Most people in poor countries just accept the life. No stress. Constant stress is a very good immune system suppressor. In the western world, people are extremely stressed out while having a lot of luxury. Imagine if people in the west would experience zen : Not over consuming food, not trying to acquire everything thou neighbor owns while not needing it or wanting it... Not doing large amounts of drugs (that includes cigarettes and alcohol). People would age easily to over a hundred in good physical and mental health .
 
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It wasn't a complement.

So you were born wealthy, it doesn't make your country any less of shithole.

compliment*

Who said i was born wealthy? I've toiled enough to reach where I am. Anyways, that's besides the point. In certain parts of India, the religious beliefs are so strong that they do not mind dumping bodies into a river as long as their "soul" attains peace. If you go to major cities, you won't see horrific scenes like this.

But definitely granted that you'll see filth there as well. It's disgusting, but there is nothing much we as ordinary citizens can do regarding the matter. People horribly outnumber the toilets in slum areas, and hence the defecating in the open. There is no overall development as people from areas with a religious background rarely take up education. And even if they are educated, their religious beliefs overpower common and basic logic.

Obviously, when i saw these pics for the first time I was shocked with disbelief. I called out to my mom to check these out and she nearly puked. And I've always wanted to visit the Ganges. Now, I know better.
 

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aw man, the 3 classes of toilets...

jesus christ wherever the fuck I'm going I'm bringing my own TP.

These three toilet photographs represent three levels of toilets in India. Note what is common to all of them, which is that none of them have any toilet paper, but all of them have a bucket of water at arms length… yes, you’ve guessed correctly, Indians don’t use toilet paper when using the toilet, they use their hands. After defecating, you use your left hand finger to wipe the feces around your anus, and then use the water in the bucket to wash your hand. The custom is to use your left hand to wipe your butt, so when you go into a store to select food, you mustn’t use your left hand.
 

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so what do tourist use when they go? do hotels have modern toilets? or is that concept to science fiction in india?
 

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so what do tourist use when they go? do hotels have modern toilets? or is that concept to science fiction in india?

Tourists, I'm assuming, stay in hotels. And every hotel is equipped with a toilet/bathroom, irrespective of how cheap the hotel may be.
 

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aw man, the 3 classes of toilets...

jesus christ wherever the fuck I'm going I'm bringing my own TP.

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These three toilet photographs represent three levels of toilets in India. Note what is common to all of them, which is that none of them have any toilet paper, but all of them have a bucket of water at arms length… yes, you’ve guessed correctly, Indians don’t use toilet paper when using the toilet, they use their hands. After defecating, you use your left hand finger to wipe the feces around your anus, and then use the water in the bucket to wash your hand. The custom is to use your left hand to wipe your butt, so when you go into a store to select food, you mustn’t use your left hand.

#facepalm#
I'm outta this thread.
 

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Holy crap that's freaking nasty. I don't get why people would choose to live such a gross life. Even if poor one can at least do certain things like poop in a designated area instead of randomly, and discard/burn dead bodies and what not. They seem to have zero care for their environment.

At first I was thinking "why is there that many dead bodies anyway?" But with the way they live no wonder people are dropping dead at random. They are basically living in a diseased cesspool.

Remember, when you call Microsoft (or any company), that's where your call is going.
 

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Funny enough I remember when the Avengers premiered India was up in arms about "how they were portrayed" in the movie. From what's here it looks they were better portrayed then reality.
 

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Recognizes the problem...but still does it...the power of religion is amazing...

A HEREDITARY Hindu priest, Veer Bhadra Mishra is wont, shortly after sunrise, to totter down the stone steps of his temple to the Ganges river, and there perform a three-part ritual. He touches the sacred water. He dips himself in it. He cups it in his hands and drinks it.
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Mr Mishra has contracted typhoid, polio, jaundice and other water-borne ailments. A hydrologist turned environmental activist, he reasonably assumes that his morning devotions are to blame.

http://www.economist.com/node/11751397?story_id=11751397
 

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"holy ****, is india really this filthy of a country?"


Untreated sewage in a spiritual river......

looks like India is full of....

<dons sunglasses>

Holy Shit!!
 

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I am disgusted by the fact that there is no barrier between the water in the Ganges and the rest of the world.
 
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