Holy mother of christ balls

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
16,800
45
91
Differential equations and linear algebra. Way easy. Linear analysis and multivariable calculus? Seem like easy cakes.

Introduction to mathematical reasoning? Omfgwtf learning curve. It's not just the learning curve either. It's the fact that everything you're doing in this class requires that you've seen intricate proofs, and a whole mother fucking bitchton of them. (Hey guess what I never saw in my previous college classes? You guessed it!)

Jesus christ. The book we're using uses the most convoluted language to say the simplest of shit. When it does that, it ends up confusing the fuck out of the reader. It makes me think, "Why the fuck would you say if you could just say this?" Then, of course, the book proceeds to confuse the fuck out of you with pointless 2 line proofs. First line: Here's what I'm going to prove. Next two lines, proving it. No rhyme or reason to why the methods are done. No logic about why the person chose that over this method to prove it. There's no, "Hey, I'm doin' it this way because of X method and Y logic." It's just fucking magic. I understand the proofs, but when it comes to my turn to do the problems... I'm left going, "Oh hey... I might understand why this is, but I can't fucking prove it. You know why? Because the guy fucking magic'd his whole way through the 20 examples he did. There was no reasoning or rhyme to how you tackle problems. There was just doing."

See, just seeing doing is fine when you're learning something mechanical or very methodical. You can easily learn how the pattern works. Here, every fucking problem is quite unique. So, of course, you are left going, "Well, this is completely different than anything I've encountered before in this text. I don't know how to write any proofs because I've never seen a fully written out proof. I get to see a bunch of two line magic proofs. Boy, midterms and finals (which make up 70% of my grade) sure are going to be fucking hell."

Fuck this class. Dropping this like bass. Teacher can't help for shit. She said to the class that there is no way to tackle problems. She says that you just have to sit there and wait for the magic ah-ha moment. She recommended reading the problems before going to bed and hoping that you dream about them and come up with a solution.

What the fuck.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
17,458
82
86
I just remember that I have two maple glazed old-fashioned donuts. I'm gonna go and eat one of them.

What kind of donut do you guys like?
 

HendrixFan

Diamond Member
Oct 18, 2001
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If you struggle with proofs you really don't understand math. It is THE foundation of math and should come before calculus and the like. Set theory should come in elementary school before arithmetic IMO.
 

deadlyapp

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2004
6,622
720
126
What the hell was your major again?
And why are you taking classes during summer?
 

weflyhigh

Senior member
Jan 1, 2007
971
1
81
you're one of those nerdy people that has no idea about anything technical but thinks they do because they play a lot of video games and spend their life on a computer, aren't you?
 
Oct 20, 2005
10,978
44
91
Differential equations and linear algebra. Way easy. Linear analysis and multivariable calculus? Seem like easy cakes.

Introduction to mathematical reasoning? Omfgwtf learning curve. It's not just the learning curve either. It's the fact that everything you're doing in this class requires that you've seen intricate proofs, and a whole mother fucking bitchton of them. (Hey guess what I never saw in my previous college classes? You guessed it!)

Jesus christ. The book we're using uses the most convoluted language to say the simplest of shit. When it does that, it ends up confusing the fuck out of the reader. It makes me think, "Why the fuck would you say if you could just say this?" Then, of course, the book proceeds to confuse the fuck out of you with pointless 2 line proofs. First line: Here's what I'm going to prove. Next two lines, proving it. No rhyme or reason to why the methods are done. No logic about why the person chose that over this method to prove it. There's no, "Hey, I'm doin' it this way because of X method and Y logic." It's just fucking magic. I understand the proofs, but when it comes to my turn to do the problems... I'm left going, "Oh hey... I might understand why this is, but I can't fucking prove it. You know why? Because the guy fucking magic'd his whole way through the 20 examples he did. There was no reasoning or rhyme to how you tackle problems. There was just doing."

See, just seeing doing is fine when you're learning something mechanical or very methodical. You can easily learn how the pattern works. Here, every fucking problem is quite unique. So, of course, you are left going, "Well, this is completely different than anything I've encountered before in this text. I don't know how to write any proofs because I've never seen a fully written out proof. I get to see a bunch of two line magic proofs. Boy, midterms and finals (which make up 70% of my grade) sure are going to be fucking hell."

Fuck this class. Dropping this like bass. Teacher can't help for shit. She said to the class that there is no way to tackle problems. She says that you just have to sit there and wait for the magic ah-ha moment. She recommended reading the problems before going to bed and hoping that you dream about them and come up with a solution.

What the fuck.

99% of the time when someone complains like this, it means they don't understand what they are reading or that they just want to sound cool and draw attention to themselves by ranting about a class and how hard it is.

Here's a proof even you can understand. You = part of the 99% mentioned above.
 

aleckz

Golden Member
Jan 3, 2004
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0
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Just the way it is! You're used to arithmetic and variable calculations, when you actually stumble upon logic your world is opened up. This simple logic like proving square root of 2 is irrational is the base of mathematics. The learning curve is steep, but its doable. Also it will benefit you in other areas where mathematics and logic is prominent like programming. Good luck, keep your nose in your book and you'll get an A.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
68,483
12,622
126
www.anyf.ca
Math was my weak point, glad I managed to pass it and never have to do complex math ever again. And if I need to, I can just look up on how to do it and write a program to do it for me so it gets it right 100% of the time. Gotta love computers how you can tell them to do stuff for you.
 

Citizen X

Member
Mar 13, 2012
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Sometimes when I havn't had a shower in a week it gets all slimy just above my ass-crack and on my nutsack too...
 

Bignate603

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
13,897
1
0
I just remember that I have two maple glazed old-fashioned donuts. I'm gonna go and eat one of them.

What kind of donut do you guys like?

A place near where I grew up makes apple cider donuts that they coat with cinnamon sugar. They're ridiculously delicious.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
I just remember that I have two maple glazed old-fashioned donuts. I'm gonna go and eat one of them.

What kind of donut do you guys like?

i love glazed donuts. wish i could make them at home instead of getting them from the store.

yumm
 

KoolAidKid

Golden Member
Apr 29, 2002
1,932
0
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Try harder at life, dammit. Quitting when things get difficult ensures mediocrity.

You have a history of blaming others for your failures; sounds like you have the teacher and the author of the textbook all lined up for this one.
 
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