Holy Mutha of Intel CPUs!

[VirtualLarry]

"the revelation suggests that Intel CPUs may not last longer than three to five years before succumbing to overheating."

ivy bridge is almost 3 years old, be ready for all those failures starting soon

or not

We'll have to see if my relative's IB "10 year rig" makes it that long. It's almost 2 years old thus far.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2312140

 

[Maximilian]

Can someone sum this up?

Well from the bottom of OPs link it seems this single mom apparently makes £7650 a month just sitting at home:

http://chansiar.net/wc/446/10236/2987/3005,2987,2562,2921,2123,2944,2994,2750.html

And you could too! :thumbsup:

Theres also mention of a controversial pill celebs use to build muscle fast... I think they call it protein or something

 

[Techhog]

Am now confused delving. Does this mean Skywell S chips will all be BGA?

http://www.eteknix.com/intel-decided-to-stick-with-lga-platform-with-skylake-chips/

Are you going to post about the performance lies of the Pentium 4 era next? These articles keep getting older.

Also, the Skylake die shrink is Cannonlake.

 

[ShintaiDK]

LOL, Skylake as BGA only. The OP keeps on delivering failed bad gossip rumours

 

[Smoblikat]

This has been known, for a very long time. I just de-lidded my 3770K last week and put CLU on it.

 

[hawtdawg]

the TIM isn't the real problem, The real problem is the gap between the IHS and the core caused by the black glue. You can use any TIM and still get a huge temp drop as long as you remove the glue.

 

[2is]

This time warp thread shows exactly why people should stop believing in the techsite drama. Its gossip style that some sites/blogs specialize in.

Or just read the date of the article and move on.

 

[Virgorising]

We'll have to see if my relative's IB "10 year rig" makes it that long. It's almost 2 years old thus far.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2312140

I heah you. But if this is an issue, I wanna know.

 

[Virgorising]

LOL, Skylake as BGA only. The OP keeps on delivering failed bad gossip rumours

I keep doing that?

I think not. At all. When I come upon something I MAY be missing data about, I post......AND YOU are not the arbiter of all objective truth. It's always a journey and in every single life arena.

 

[Virgorising]

Or just read the date of the article and move on.

Your premise is that most humans have the time or interest/orientation to stay current of all this esoteric stuff.

Most do not.

 

[Virgorising]

the TIM isn't the real problem, The real problem is the gap between the IHS and the core caused by the black glue. You can use any TIM and still get a huge temp drop as long as you remove the glue.

Now THIS......is INTERESTING.:thumbsup:

 

[Virgorising]

This has been known, for a very long time. I just de-lidded my 3770K last week and put CLU on it.

Again, not everyone has the time or the orientation to keep current re every aspect of this esoteric stuff. I observe, there are humans who need to pretend they know stuff they do not. Very sad, that is. I am just not one of those humans. And that.....is a Good Thing.

But, having learned what I now have, tho still chasing data on all this--- I feel happy & relieved U did that without hurting yr chip.

 

[Virgorising]

Well from the bottom of OPs link it seems this single mom apparently makes £7650 a month just sitting at home:

http://chansiar.net/wc/446/10236/2987/3005,2987,2562,2921,2123,2944,2994,2750.html

And you could too! :thumbsup:

Theres also mention of a controversial pill celebs use to build muscle fast... I think they call it protein or something

I think it's what was in the original piece from the Japanese periodical is what matters. U can blow anything off using anything.....for me, chasing/assessing the veracity of content apart from form is the goal.

i.e. TMZ is not exactly elegant or Ivy League, nor, I think are the members of their demographic. And yet, the content of its offerings is remarkably, consistently accurate.

 

[Virgorising]

Are you going to post about the performance lies of the Pentium 4 era next? These articles keep getting older.

Also, the Skylake die shrink is Cannonlake.

How very inelegant of you. Also know, I reread Proust and other classics ongoing....and, within my vast and still growing DVD library, I have items from the silent era thru last week. As do all true cinephiles.

I will never, EVER buy a system with a chip that is NOT SOCKETED, forget UNWITTINGLY. See, thing is, for all those aspiring hot shots here throwing shade on this thread...not until I came upon what I just did did I have a clue some are NOT SOCKETED OR MIGHT NOT BE.....OR, that Intel HASN'T REALLY closed and locked the door on this issue for the future.

 

[Virgorising]

And, within this important journey to chase data.....I just found and learned from THIS:

http://electroiq.com/blog/2002/06/bga-csp-and-flip-chip/

Accurate, important data have NO TIMESTAMP, PEOPLE.

 

[UaVaj]

what is the conspiracy theory on this?

obviously the flux solider method has proved to be superior. like sandy bridge. like devil canyon. like e processors.

so why did intel change to inferior tim method? to save cost? to shorten the life of cpu? was engineering drinking on the weekend before the decision on monday? or perhaps this was just piss poor design flaw?

why sabotage or reinvent a superior process?

 

[Virgorising]

what is the conspiracy theory on this?

obviously the flux solider method has proved to be superior. like sandy bridge. like devil canyon. like e processors.

so why did intel change to inferior tim method? to save cost? to shorten the life of cpu? was engineering drinking on the weekend before the decision on monday? or perhaps this was just piss poor design flaw?

why sabotage or reinvent a superior process?

EXACTLY!:thumbsup: For me, the obvious issues anyone learning about this would be moved to explore.

Conspiracy? I think not. Cost cutting, I think, prolly.

I read there's even an understandable related issue re RMAing a board! Would the chip maker be responsible?

 

[2is]

Your premise is that most humans have the time or interest/orientation to stay current of all this esoteric stuff.

Most do not.

Your premise about my premise is incorrect. My premise is you look at the date, you realize the story is well over a year old and that it's no longer news.

Also, this forum has a multi quote and edit feature.

 

[Virgorising]

Your premise about my premise is incorrect. My premise is you look at the date, you realize the story is well over a year old and that it's no longer news.

Also, this forum has a multi quote and edit feature.

Ummmmmm....You just proved the veracity of my comment re your PREMISE. Do U GET THAT?

And now, your premise is you are the arbiter of when I should use the multi quote option. I only do that in response with dense with data posts. Yours did not qualify.

"No longer news' is subjective, both TOPIC and individual specific...not to mention learning always involves chasing all the data....not just what appeared yesterday....IN Retrospect. Its dynamic is never LINEAR.

i.e., What was accepted as current and cutting edge...within the orthodoxy until the late 60s re obstetrics.....was changed over time by pressure from enlightened females worldwide..... cause it abrogated ANCIENT HEALTHY PERFECT ENGINEERING.

 

[crashtech]

@UaVag: Devil's Canyon CPUs are not soldered. They instead feature a what is claimed to be an improved thermal interface material.

OP, the substitution of an interface material that is inferior to solder on Intel's consumer grade CPUs starting with Ivy Bridge is a subject which has been discussed extensively here in the CPU forum for years now, hence the somewhat negative reception to your thread. I could only say that it might be helpful to do some forum searches and some reading before posting a new thread in the CPU forum, especially when in relation to a topic that is not contemporaneous.

 

[Virgorising]

@UaVag: Devil's Canyon CPUs are not soldered. They instead feature a what is claimed to be an improved thermal interface material.

OP, the substitution of an interface material that is inferior to solder on Intel's consumer grade CPUs starting with Ivy Bridge is a subject which has been discussed extensively here in the CPU forum for years now, hence the somewhat negative reception to your thread. I could only say that it might be helpful to do some forum searches and some reading before posting a new thread in the CPU forum, especially when in relation to a topic that is not contemporaneous.

All good, helpful and constructive points. :thumbsup:

Thing is, it seems to me at this juncture, Intel has left the door open on this important issue. Again, I will never, knowingly own any system with a not socketed chip. I only went in that direction to save money when I once chose a PSU upgrade (Antec) which was no money cause it was not MODULAR. And, in that event, I removed the useless wires and sealed the nubs with liquid electrical tape.

 

[2is]

Ummmmmm....You just proved the veracity of my comment re your PREMISE. Do U GET THAT?

And now, your premise is you are the arbiter of when I should use the multi quote option. I only do that in response with dense with data posts. Yours did not qualify.

"No longer news' is subjective, both TOPIC and individual specific...not to mention learning always involves chasing all the data....not just what appeared yesterday....IN Retrospect. Its dynamic is never LINEAR.

i.e., What was accepted as current and cutting edge...within the orthodoxy until the late 60s re obstetrics.....was changed over time by pressure from enlightened females worldwide..... cause it abrogated ANCIENT HEALTHY PERFECT ENGINEERING.

You posted in a technical forum, your premise of "most humans" does not apply here. Most humans that are in THIS forum will be aware of tech news that's in an article that's 1.5 years old reporting on news that's 2.5 years old.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It seems this thread serves no other purpose than to start a drama. Moving from one made up issue to the other with old disproven gossip rumours.

 

[UaVaj]

@UaVag: Devil's Canyon CPUs are not soldered. They instead feature a what is claimed to be an improved thermal interface material.

thanks for that clarification.

given the better tim did improve 4790k over 4770k.

that would confirm the theory of cost cutting.

 

[Virgorising]

It seems this thread serves no other purpose than to start a drama. Moving from one made up issue to the other with old disproven rumours.

Disproven? It seems the jury is out re Intel's plans re this issue.....including right now, forget for the future, forget in the arcane specifics.

So the story....the issue... is anything but resolved.

There are BABIES in this bathwater.....including right this second.