Holy Mutha of Intel CPUs!

[Phynaz]

How was the trip down the Vigorising rabbit hole? I have her on ignore.

 

[Virgorising]

As I came to, big, huge changes to what we are all used to are impending! That is just a given now.

BUT, having now accepted that, the more I delve....the more I NOW see positive and exciting elements on the horizon! That's the next phase if we are making a real journey.....examining if we are holding onto the retreating past for bad reasons.

I feel excited by what the lovely gentleman from HP is sharing.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hp-the-machine-first-prototype-coming-in-2016-2014-12

http://www.technologyreview.com/new...a-revolutionary-new-operating-system-in-2015/

 

[soccerballtux]

little new content in this article just "they're using thermal paste" "maybe it's cheap thermal paste" "the cheap thermal paste is going to stop working as well as it dries out" with no thought given to "but there's no where for the vapor to go so how does it dry out"

It basically reads like they read some posts by IDC and tried to write an article around it.

Intel made the call because they're using such little power they can get away with the cost savings. It PROBABLY wasn't intentional, but the planned obsolescence that was a beneficial side effect.

 

[lenjack]

i2500k...4 years with 212 evo cooler. Clocked up to 4.4 (stock is 3.3), temps idle at 35, rarely reach 50, very rarely 60, No change at all over this time span. TIM is arcticool ceramic. Temps have NOT risen.

 

[Ramses]

i2500k...4 years with 212 evo cooler. Clocked up to 4.4 (stock is 3.3), temps idle at 35, rarely reach 50, very rarely 60, No change at all over this time span. TIM is arcticool ceramic. Temps have NOT risen.

Some folks have different experiences apparently.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2422889

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

5 pages long, its from 2012 WTF?

 

[schmuckley]

Was just moved to search coolest running Intel desktop chips.....and LOOK WUT I FOUND!!!!!!! O M G.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-way...ing-intel-cpu/

I thought the NSA HDD firmware spy was the ultimate scandal.....but suddenly, here's a whole new one! WUT?

I think we humans need heatsinks more than our computers do now.

Could this story be true?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide/0_100

 

[Dufus]

I also said infinite times,

And I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating.

IMHO it would be a bad move business wise for Intel to have their CPU's fail after just a few years and I have seen nothing but the contrary in their pursuit of excellence. The only business side move being feature cutting which also seems common with some other Companies.

Here's an old article about TIM and IHS which should shed some light if you are really interested.

The Material Optimization and Reliability Characterization of an Indium-Solder Thermal Interface Material for CPU Packaging


However you do come across to me as hell bent on sensationalism, if so probably just as well if you don't seen this.

SHOCKING interview with Nvidia engineer about the 970 fiasco

 

[UaVaj]

IMHO it would be a bad move business wise for Intel to have their CPU's fail after just a few years and I have seen nothing but the contrary in their pursuit of excellence. The only business side move being feature cutting which also seems common with some other Companies.

as for cpu failing. doubt it. tim is sufficient. just inferior to solider.



otoh. if intel were "truly" in their pursuit of excellence. clearly they would have not gone backward with tim.

it all about making the bean counters happy. even if that mean tim over solider.



truly pathetic. especially on k series cpu. would had gladly paid that "extra" to get that solider upgrade.

 

[Ramses]

would had gladly paid that "extra" to get that solider upgrade.

This is imo the sort of thing that happens when one manufacturer is effectively the only game in town. We take what we are given and say Thank You Sir.

 

[UaVaj]

there is absolutely no excuse what so ever to offer a K cpu and not have it be solider.

this is starting to sound like the nvidia 970 thread.

 

[flexy]

there is absolutely no excuse what so ever to offer a K cpu and not have it be solider.

this is starting to sound like the nvidia 970 thread.

Because "enthusiasts forums" are full of reports about CPUs failing due to heat?

Uh. No.

Heat IS an issue when you overclock Haswell, but really the worst thing that CAN happen is that your CPU throttles once it hits 100C and shuts off at 105C. But this is not Intel fault's, but yours when you overclock and use a stock/crappy HS and/or a case with bad airflow.

And even for overclockers, the heat IS manageable also without delidding. Get a decent cooler, simple as that.

Seriously..I have an inkling this is a satire thread

The "conspiracy angle" is nonsense anyway since IF a CPU would be failing under normal condition (which the article sort-of implies) Intel would replace it, correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Heat IS an issue when you overclock Haswell

Just get a good aftermarket cooler. If you buy an unlocked Haswell you better be someone who gets good components to compliment the build.

Interesting Thread

OP do you really think these cpu's will fail in a given timeframe? Wouldn't it be time to upgrade anyways? Please elaborate

 

[DrMrLordX]

there is absolutely no excuse what so ever to offer a K cpu and not have it be solider.

this is starting to sound like the nvidia 970 thread.

That's not really the point of the OP's post though. OP acted like it was news that Intel chips had TIM under the IHS, which it isn't. It's been done to death in various threads and articles. Nobody's making excuses for what Intel does, it's just par for the course thesedays. AMD does it too.

 

[Phynaz]

there is absolutely no excuse what so ever to offer a K cpu and not have it be solider.

I didn't know you where a chip packaging engineer.

 

[Ramses]

I don't have an opinion either way on the TIM under the IHS as to life expectancy because I don't have any data on such, but you can't tell me they didn't cheap out on it or that it wouldn't have been more suitable for it's obvious purpose as it's sold unlocked specifically to be overclocked if it was soldered. Adding insult to injury so to speak is the price of the thing and the fact that there effectively isn't an alternative. The "NGPTIM" on the devils canyon amounts to admitting TIM was in some way insufficient, but they still aren't willing to spend the money to do better imo.