holy poop. someone i kinda know got busted for child porn..UPDATE article posted

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Jeeebus

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I have dealt with a number of child porn cases as both a prosecutor and defense attorney. In general child porn defendants tend to be highly intelligent and often very computer-savvy. Actually when I was stationed at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma, the base webmaster, a senior civilian employee, was busted for distributing child porn using his government computer.

There really isn't a "type" of person who is involved with child porn in any way that would be discernible to anyone but themselves. In most cases they were molested as kids and effectively had their hard wiring in sexual matters changed by that experience. There are also people who, for whatever reason, develop an interest in this as an outgrowth of a general interest in pornography, because it is intrinsically more "extreme" than other kinds of porn.

I have unfortunately had to see some very very graphic images of child pornography involving adult/toddler sexual acts as part of doing my job, and it's something that really sticks with you - it's haunting to have those images rattling around in your head.

I can't imagine the tremendous emotional strain on the people that work at the DOJ computer crime division or any of the law enforcement divisions tasked with investigating this stuff. Their job is literally to look at this horrific stuff all day and ferret out these monsters. Just reading the indictment and investigating affidavit of what our semi-neighbor did made me want to punch the wall. Having to actually watch that stuff would really drain any humanity I have left.
 

Raduque

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pretty damn sure I would never be in a situation like that..go right ahead.

No, he's saying if you're allowed to kill an accused child porn user, then if it's found that the guy was innocent, we get to kill you in return, for falsely killing somebody who didn't deserve it.
 

Mai72

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I can't imagine the tremendous emotional strain on the people that work at the DOJ computer crime division or any of the law enforcement divisions tasked with investigating this stuff. Their job is literally to look at this horrific stuff all day and ferret out these monsters. Just reading the indictment and investigating affidavit of what our semi-neighbor did made me want to punch the wall. Having to actually watch that stuff would really drain any humanity I have left.

I wonder if they get desensitized to the images after a while. I would think it would affect a father more than someone who is single and with no children.
 
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I wonder if they get desensitized to the images after a while. I would think it would affect a father more than someone who is single and with no children.

I think it's in our wiring to become desensitized to awful things generally. I have been involved in some very very dark things in my career - I prosecuted a particularly aggravated sex offender (certainly the worst in the history of the Air Force), and sent him to prison for life. It really fucked me up for about a year, and has permanently affected my view of the world. That said, my ability to deal with things like this is very different from a layperson's. In my experience the people who choose to prosecute sex offenders full-time tend to be female, and tend to be victims themselves (accordingly, they feel a passion about their jobs that outweighs the visceral horror most people feel about the subject matter).
 

Iron Woode

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I don't think the latter category is often prosecuted, because it's difficult to prove the age of the subject (actually this is the very reason the FBI developed its Innocent Images database of known child porn, where they could confirm the ages of the people being depicted).

There is a dubious "science" called Tanner staging that is intended to allow an expert to estimate the age of nude people based on nipple and genital development, but it has largely been discredited and I don't know that any courts in the US would allow expert testimony based on Tanner staging anymore. Actually there was a case in which a guy was being prosecuted for child pornography based on his having a video of the porn star Lupe Fuentes (who was 19 or 20 in the video). The prosecution called an expert who opined that she was underage based on Tanner staging, and she showed up to testify for the defense that she was of age when the film was made.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrHfuLC4H8
 

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I posted about 2 years ago of a friend that was arrested for 2 counts of internet luring a person under 17 years old. Maximum punishment was 5 years for each offense. I have no idea what happened other than that he is living in a different part of the city and is working as a stock boy in a dollar store.
 
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lol. A real-life case where an overzealous prosecutor didn't bother to check the facts and got completely owned. I wonder if he's enjoying his new job scrubbing toilets at Arecibo?

Toilet scrubbing jokes aside, I used to work with a schmuck that was found guilty of molesting a young girl. I always despised the guy and felt there was something off about him - he just had that major creepo vibe about him - so it couldn't have happened to a bigger douche-magoo.
 

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Wow, she's smoking hot and her boyfriend/"manager" is smoking creepy, couldn't help but notice the link to her own website, "I love Lupi" great in that she saved the dude from 20yrs prison time and a win for her for the free publicity.


There seems to be a double standard here. When you're an unattractive male, you're automatically a creeper. If you're just a male, you deserve many years in jail but female teacher gets off with a slap on the wrist. (Updated article says the guy is going to get 90+ years in jail)
 

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A high school teacher of mine was busted for solicitation of a minor. They caught him in a motel room with a 12 year old girl. I had a run in once when he chewed me out for refusing to stand when Pierre Trudeau died. So it was kinda satisfying when we found out. I think I was in grade 11 or 12 at the time. He was my tech teacher in grade 10.

So yeah, tech-savvy guy. He had found the girl in a chat room. Would have been in his late 30s, early 40s at the time. Went to prison for it.

Personally I don't think these guys can ever be rehabilitated. The noose would certainly solve the problem real quick. Failing that, they need to be kept far away from public for the rest of their sad lives.

You should totally go visit him in prison and say to him: "I'm not gonna stand for some guy I don't even know dying but why don't you go have a seat over there?"
 

waggy

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There seems to be a double standard here. When you're an unattractive male, you're automatically a creeper. If you're just a male, you deserve many years in jail but female teacher gets off with a slap on the wrist. (Updated article says the guy is going to get 90+ years in jail)

/this

there is a double standard and that is not right.

and this guy does not deserve 90 years. he deserves a bullet in the brain.
 

allisolm

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richard J. Janusz, 46, of the 500 block of Nathan Lattin Lane, was charged with 15 counts of predatory criminal sexual assault...
Police believe more than one victim was abused...

Lot more going on than child porn going on here. Hope they get enough to put him away for a very long time.
 

BUTCH1

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There seems to be a double standard here. When you're an unattractive male, you're automatically a creeper. If you're just a male, you deserve many years in jail but female teacher gets off with a slap on the wrist. (Updated article says the guy is going to get 90+ years in jail)

Your talking two different crimes IMO, if a hot female teacher has sex with a 15yr old male she faces rape charges, jail time and will never teach again (or possibly get hired anywhere as employers all do background checks pre-hire and a rape conviction would be a no-go), what this guy was into was VERY young kids, that is a horrific act IMO and s he should get the book through at him.
 

Uppsala9496

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Guy just around the block from me was just arrested for this. it was with a 16 year old though.
Some sick people out there.
 

Jeeebus

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ain't got time to research this - someone PM me the details on waggy getting nabbed for whatever he allegedly did.

EDIT - THX - got the details. Ughh.
 
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clamum

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doubt it. His wife is a solid 6. she is also about 35.

not to mention she is wacky as hell. a nice lady but pretty damn weird. I never had a issue with her or her husband. her daughter though was not a girl i wanted my kids to hang out with.

Gonna need pics to confirm solid 6.
 
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