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MustangSVT

Lifer
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<< Which meal are you preparing tonight for dinner? >>



something spicy.


anyways that BEAR is huge! look at those claws!!! daaamn..
 

jjones

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I don't believe that the bear charged anyone. I think the guy just wanted a big bear head to put on his wall and brag about which makes me sick and I really hope he gets fined up the ass.

Give me a break, the guy has his hunting gear still on and is holding the frigging thing like a trophy. You are just gullible, i'm not jumping to conclusions and i'll bet he is being investigated about it. BTW, did he go home with any deer? I somehow doubt it.

Dear and Big Game season are generally the same time. So he was probably in his legal rights to do this. Also hunters don't kill for the sake of killing. I've hunted for the past 20 years and have only harvested (yes a politically correct term for killing) one dear. The meat I couldn't eat was given to the food bank. It's actually because I'm a bad shot. If I can't take the deer or bear down in a humane manner, I do not shoot.



Stupid rednecks are always wrecking the natural order of balance with guns...that guy should have died.

Let's keep building houses where woods once stood. Let's keep pushing these animals into smaller areas, then complain when they run into our car or wreck or gardens. Let's keep letting the animals reproduce and not thin out the herds as they say. Without coyotes, wolves, and other animals to eat the deer, they would overpopulate and starve. Would it be nice if the world was a rosey place where we all gave hugs and smiled. Sure in your world. But in reality, man is part of the food chain. Otherwise we'd be tree hugging, veggie eating, don't wear leather (check your shoes), bicycle riding hippie throw backs (not pointing fingers). Eat your Big Macs and be blind to the fact that the cows are still alive when the skinning starts, Veal - Don't make me go there. Chickens - Cut the head and put them on a hook. And Corn, ripping them right off the stalk. Oh the pain of the poor beanstalks...... You should open your eyes to the amount of deer and bear taken in this country, compared to cows and pigs. Which meal are you preparing tonight for dinner?
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well said mack goose. veryape, you're an idiot. after shooting a bear, the hunting day is over. you just don't leave it there and say, "oh, that's not what i wanted. i'm gonna leave it to rot and go get me a deer." Deer hunting and bear hunting are two different types of hunting and they'll easily be able to tell which one he was really after. and gulzakar, maybe the police can say the same if they ever need to respond to a call when your life is in danger.
 

Nemesis77

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That guy seems to have only ONE facial expression !

I think he did the right thing. How many bullets did it take to stop that beast? What rifle was it?

It is possible for bear to charge like that. It could have been crazy (normally they avoid humans). Or it might have been injured and that caused it to be crazy. There are alot of possible explanations.

Or maybe the bear was just lonely, and wanted some company. As it was running towards the guy to give him a warm hug, they guy shot him !
 

Antisocial Virge

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The Kodiak season just got over so this was probably shot with a license. It also probably didn't charge him since they do not defend territories.
If he was a good shot it should have only taken one shot.



<< if i remember correctly, a bear shot in the head can still run 50 or so yards >>



Thats crap. They are not a magical animal. One shot through with an arrow can only run 50 or so yards if you get a double lung shot.

Sean
(ex-bowhunter and wildlife biologist)
 

Hayabusa Rider

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<< poor bear... Stupid rednecks are always wrecking the natural order of balance with guns...that guy should have died. >>



I hope that was a joke, because in the "natural order" of things, chances are I am bigger and stronger than you and that gives me the right to kill you with my bare hands. Not a pleasant thought is it? So lets follow this hypothetical to it's logical conclusion. If I attack and try to kill you, and you shoot me to defend your life, that makes you a redneck. Quick! I need to call Oxford, Webster et.al. Have to change the dictionary now. Damn.
 

Ulfwald

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Ummmmm HE SHOT SMOKEY!!!!

DOH!

Dang, if that bear had not fallen, I wonder who would have won the fist fight? His head alone is bigger than my black lab.
 

Hubris

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He's lucky it didn't collapse on top of him; he never would have come home.

And sweet mother, I admit I used to be against hunting on principle. But then I actually MET some hunters, and changed my mind. REAL hunters, not the ones who got out with an automatic, are skilled people who get licenses to hunt, don't cause the animal undue torment (yes, they're killing them, but they don't let them bleed out like the people who slaughter cows do). And MackGoose is right, as long as we continue to expand and destroy the "natural order of things", we're going to have to shoulder the responsibility of cleaning up the results of our actions. Deer would overpopulate, starve and start being even MORE of a liability to cars, etc. than they are now. We're meat eaters, and evolution has provided us with the means to be the ultimate killer. I may not agree with guns as a matter of course, and would never hunt myself, but I don't look down my nose at those who do.
 

chansen

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What a monumental waste.

Reminds me of a cartoon where a father cuts down a 200 year-old tree just to show the number of growth rings to his son, pointing out, "See, there's another year she survived a forest fire!"

Those bears, deer, and other animals survive on their abilities though incredibly adverse conditions, often forming family units. What right have we to drive out on a weekend and poach a couple?

They are far more honourable creatures than we, and especially sport hunters, could ever hope to be.

Regards,
Craig
 

KentState

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<< What a monumental waste. Reminds me of a cartoon where a father cuts down a 200 year-old tree just to show the number of growth rings to his son, pointing out, "See, there's another year she survived a forest fire!" Those bears, deer, and other animals survive on their abilities though incredibly adverse conditions, often forming family units. What right have we to drive out on a weekend and poach a couple? They are far more honourable creatures than we, and especially sport hunters, could ever hope to be. Regards, Craig >>



Almost makes me want to go out and hug a tree Actually, it's a proven fact that over population can have dramtic effects on nature. Even deer can cause erosion of land which in turn can cause enormous problems. Also, disease and famine are more previlant when the population increase past an acceptable point. You have to ask yourself, is it better for the deer population to be sick and miserable, or that hunters are allowed to thin the population at a controlled rate. Remember that the people that are considered closet to nature by many (Native Amercians) hunted for many years. Plus, the majority of hunters take full advantage of anything that they kill. If you've ever stopped by a hunters house, you would realize that the deer serves as food for many meals.
 

MackGoose

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God you guys are hilarious. Ran out of coffee, but this is keeping me in a good mood. This guy has to haul this bear out (he's in Alaska, so it's not woods, but probably a forest). I'll be gererous and say that he has 200-300 pounds of intestines, lungs, etc (Antisocial-Virge (Sean) will probably have a better estimate). When he gets it processed, he'll have a few hundred pounds of meat. This guy will probably share it with the guy taking the picture (unless the deer he was supposed to hunt is taking the picture), so two or more families will have some meat on the table. I hear bear is greasey and gamey tasting, so I would pass it along to other families. As far as the bear's head, it would look great on the wall. My friend's father went bear hunting and stopped for lunch. At the cafe, the local farmers were complaining about a bear eating their cows. My friends Dad joked he'll bring it back before happy hour. Sure enough, same set of circumstances. He walked up on the bear and it charged (not a common occurance I hear). He shot it and the funny thing is is that you always hear about "When a bear is charging you, you should run downhill (or is it uphill)". Something about they can't run downhill because of the shorter front paws. My butt would be thinking, safety off (is my will up to date), site him in (do they make Cheerios and then punch the hole out or do they make them like little donuts), slowly pull trigger (holy crap this thing is still coming, I wonder if he's really hungry or just needs to nibble on me), pump shotgun, repeat first few steps, but faster. Anyways, he said that saying crossed his mind and the only thing he was worried about was soiling himself. He got the bear and a nice reward from the farmer's association, which he sent back with a no thanks. It cost him close to $1,000 to get made into a rug. The meat was donated to the food bank (he's part indian, so he ate a bunch).

My first thought was this guy had to drag this huge animal out of the woods.
 

Antisocial Virge

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MackGoose
Most times the meat is never used. Bear meat is really greasy as you pointed out. With black bear if you want to eat the meat you basically have to cut out all the fat during processing and you end up with basically stew meat. The guy I knew who ate it had to butcher it himself and he said " you need two 5 gal pails...one for the meat and one for the fat ". That would have been a spring bear with low fat. Chances are, unless this guy was from Alaska the meat was wasted.
 

eakers

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<< I don't believe that the bear charged anyone. I think the guy just wanted a big bear head to put on his wall and brag about >>



that was my first thought too.

btw: ive eaten A LOT of black bear meat, ive had it ground, and like steak type things and in pepporoni type thinggies, its yummy.

*kat. <-- her uncle is a big hunting type guy.
 

MustangSVT

Lifer
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<< What a monumental waste. Reminds me of a cartoon where a father cuts down a 200 year-old tree just to show the number of growth rings to his son, pointing out, "See, there's another year she survived a forest fire!" Those bears, deer, and other animals survive on their abilities though incredibly adverse conditions, often forming family units. What right have we to drive out on a weekend and poach a couple? They are far more honourable creatures than we, and especially sport hunters, could ever hope to be. Regards, Craig >>



Almost makes me want to go out and hug a tree Actually, it's a proven fact that over population can have dramtic effects on nature. Even deer can cause erosion of land which in turn can cause enormous problems. Also, disease and famine are more previlant when the population increase past an acceptable point. You have to ask yourself, is it better for the deer population to be sick and miserable, or that hunters are allowed to thin the population at a controlled rate. Remember that the people that are considered closet to nature by many (Native Amercians) hunted for many years. Plus, the majority of hunters take full advantage of anything that they kill. If you've ever stopped by a hunters house, you would realize that the deer serves as food for many meals.
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Humans should be termainated we are "disease" of earth (borrowed from an agent from matrix)
 

chansen

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KS, I understand the concept of overpopulation, but when the population is low or quite acceptable, sport hunters will continue to ply their trade until the hunting seasons are shortened or suspended.

I agree that hunting is sometimes a necessary evil, but please don't make sport hunters out to be our ecological servants. They're in it for themselves.
 

RudeBoie

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The human race is a virus, just as said in the Matrix- unable to reach a natural equalibrium in their environment
 

cmdavid

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holy crap.. i dunno what ida done if a 1600 LB animal started running at me.. i probably woulda emptied an entire round on it too... thats insane... that thing is HUGE...
 

Jejunum

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<< Give me a break, the guy has his hunting gear still on and is holding the frigging thing like a trophy. You are just gullible, i'm not jumping to conclusions and i'll bet he is being investigated about it. BTW, did he go home with any deer? I somehow doubt it. >>



agreed!
 

stonecold3169

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I find this really hard to believe as well... I live in upstate NY, and my dad does some bear hunting. The first thing that he told me was that you aren't going to put down a bear with a shot, the thing has to bleed to death. The problem is that the skull of a bear is so strong that most of the time a bullet will actually be reflected off of it, doing very little damage... if the bear is charging him, do you think it would have had time to bleed to death on his way to him? I don't... and lets say he popped him in the head with a bullet when he was 10 yeards away... don;t you think the momentum from that thing would have plowed right over him???
 

Brutus

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Reminds me of seeing Ted Neugent on the Howard Stern show. He was talking aboout killing a Rhino and Robin says, "But aren't they endangered?" Ted replied, "Oh this one was in danger, he was in really deep do-do..."

I do thank all the PETA folks, you just reminded me to defrost a couple New York strips for dinner...Yum-Mee

Brutus
 
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