home defense

[rh71]

If guns were extremely hard to acquire, what would be a good alternative? BB guns? Nobody better say cattleprod.

I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Have you seen Home Alone? There are some pretty good ideas in that documentary.

 

[Bateluer]

Taser? Dog?

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Taser? Dog?

Dogs are pretty good but not for me anymore. Way too much work with 3 kids too.

Taser = Would a guy run if you point a taser at him? How long would he be down for?

 

[sjwaste]

Don't you live in NJ? It's not that hard to get a gun. You need a permit, but a shotgun (or even a handgun) isn't outright illegal.

If you want to defend your home, a shotgun is it.

If you can't get that, a baseball bat and a prayer maybe.

 

[Mutilator]

Baseball bat, golf club, 5D Maglite, etc. Just about anything can be a weapon in a pinch.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: sjwaste
Don't you live in NJ? It's not that hard to get a gun. You need a permit, but a shotgun (or even a handgun) isn't outright illegal.

If you want to defend your home, a shotgun is it.

If you can't get that, a baseball bat and a prayer maybe.

NY. I heard it was next to impossible.

Baseball bat? I would think a bb gun would make perfect sense... ?

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

I'm not sure that's an assumption I'd be willing to make. How can you know the mental state of the drug addict breaking into your home? Are you certain he's not armed? Certain he's not well versed in the use of the weapon?

You should clarify your postion, IMO. I get the impression you think it might be good to be able to defend yourself, but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. If that's the case, here's to hoping they don't want to hurt you. Likely? I don't think so.

The not being able to get guns angle has me confused.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Mutilator
Baseball bat, golf club, 5D Maglite, etc. Just about anything can be a weapon in a pinch.

Hand to hand combat is pretty macho. Not my cup of tea though. If they're threatening me with bodily harm, I'd just as soon take them down and get it over with. They can't sue me when they're dead.

 

[SP33Demon]

Bear taser with the dial to turn up the juice.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

I'm not sure that's an assumption I'd be willing to make. How can you know the mental state of the drug addict breaking into your home? Are you certain he's not armed? Certain he's not well versed in the use of the weapon?

You should clarify your postion, IMO. I get the impression you think it might be good to be able to defend yourself, but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. If that's the case, here's to hoping they don't want to hurt you. Likely? I don't think so.

The not being able to get guns angle has me confused.

I understand this position but to be honest, I want something better than what I already have - nothing. What's the 2nd best option aside from having to jump through hoops for a lethal firearm? Why doesnt' anyone think a bb gun is a good idea? Does it not have the ability to disable someone? Would a taser really be better?

 

[Mutilator]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

I'm not sure that's an assumption I'd be willing to make. How can you know the mental state of the drug addict breaking into your home? Are you certain he's not armed? Certain he's not well versed in the use of the weapon?

You should clarify your postion, IMO. I get the impression you think it might be good to be able to defend yourself, but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. If that's the case, here's to hoping they don't want to hurt you. Likely? I don't think so.

The not being able to get guns angle has me confused.

I understand this position but to be honest, I want something better than what I already have - nothing. What's the 2nd best option aside from having to jump through hoops for a lethal firearm? Why doesnt' anyone think a bb gun is a good idea? Does it not have the ability to disable someone? Would a tazer really be better?

Probably not but it would really piss them off. And absolutely - even the biggest crackhead will go down if you taze them. How you keep them down until police arrive is the question.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

I'm not sure that's an assumption I'd be willing to make. How can you know the mental state of the drug addict breaking into your home? Are you certain he's not armed? Certain he's not well versed in the use of the weapon?

You should clarify your postion, IMO. I get the impression you think it might be good to be able to defend yourself, but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. If that's the case, here's to hoping they don't want to hurt you. Likely? I don't think so.

The not being able to get guns angle has me confused.

I understand this position but to be honest, I want something better than what I already have - nothing. What's the 2nd best option aside from having to jump through hoops for a lethal firearm? Why doesnt' anyone think a bb gun is a good idea? Does it not have the ability to disable someone? Would a tazer really be better?

Actually, I think the BB gun is not that bad. I'm not familiar with them, but seem to remember reading that some of them look very realistic. But, I also seem to remember the law enforcement community wanting that changed. They didn't like the potential for taking down a child in the dark, etc. So, are the realistic ones still available? Don't know.

I'm not well versed in tazers at all. What if it's winter out and the perp has a lot of layers of clothing on? I'm thinking that might be a problem, but I don't truly know. The other thing is I hear from time to time is where a guy had to be tazed x number of times to bring him down. Don't like that scenario.

 

[ebaycj]

BB Guns are defeated by jeans. BB Gun for home defense = EPIC FAIL.

Tazer could work, but is lame.

Just go get yourself a .45 and be done with it.

 

[SP33Demon]

You buy this taser and NOONE will ever fck with you again. Even if they bring two friends (3 shot capability!!).

 

[tfinch2]

I'd rather have a baseball bat than BB gun.

 

[dmw16]

I think even in NY you can acquire a shotgun without much trouble. The hard part is getting a permit to carry a weapon outside your home. But a long gun like a shotgun isn't hard. In fact, it may be cash-and-carry.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: rh71
I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

I'm not sure that's an assumption I'd be willing to make. How can you know the mental state of the drug addict breaking into your home? Are you certain he's not armed? Certain he's not well versed in the use of the weapon?

You should clarify your postion, IMO. I get the impression you think it might be good to be able to defend yourself, but you don't actually want to hurt anyone. If that's the case, here's to hoping they don't want to hurt you. Likely? I don't think so.

The not being able to get guns angle has me confused.

I understand this position but to be honest, I want something better than what I already have - nothing. What's the 2nd best option aside from having to jump through hoops for a lethal firearm? Why doesnt' anyone think a bb gun is a good idea? Does it not have the ability to disable someone? Would a taser really be better?

No, it doesn't have the ability to disable someone. You would do better to throw it at the intruder than to fire it at them.

Not only is a bb gun completely fucking worthless as home defense, it would probably just get you severely beaten or killed if you started shooting an intruder with it.

 

[FoBoT]

go with the large can of bear spray
http://www.rei.com/product/722...sJSLzpwCFVRM5Qod_WnkKw

 

[SonnyDaze]

Hope you can pump it fast if you miss on the first shot!!

And I wouldn't under estimate the home invaders in suburbia. Some could be packing real heat.

 

[QuantumPion]

Crossbow or GTFO.

 

[olds]

Using anything other than a real firearm (in place of a fake one or a bb gun) is asinine.
You pull out your bb gun and the actor pulls out his 9mm. You're dead instead of the actor.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

bwahahahahah.
a bb gun?? srsly?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: rh71
If guns were extremely hard to acquire, what would be a good alternative? BB guns? Nobody better say cattleprod.

I'm thinking most home invaders in suburbia are small timers just looking for cash and would run if threatened. Would something non-lethal be a bad idea? It's not like they could tell right away.

are your home invader rats, squirrels, and cats?

 

[nick1985]

I hope this thread was a joke.