I remember posts like "Hey, someone did something sketchy, and guess what? They're black/Muslim/illegal/white/Mexican or whatever!" and those weren't cool either. You have no possible idea if race has anything to do with this shooting, but would bet you read that story looking for it. Maybe not my life savings, though.
I think this was a more awkward situation, where the cops arrived as the firefight was happening. It sounds like he called the cops cuz someone was either in the house or breaking in, ended up tracking the guy down in the home (likely to protect the adolescent), took down the perp as the cops showed up, and they just assumed that whomever was standing was the one that needed to be shot. Not that anything will come down on them for such an asinine decision of course.I carry on occasion and am ready to defend my home and family if necessary. If I ever have to use my weapon in self-defense, once the threat is ended, I will render the gun safe and get far away from it before I call the cops.
When the cops respond they will find me standing outside, very still and with my hands in the air. Same for the rest of my family. And I'll have dispatch on speaker phone on the ground in front of me so the cops are aware of exactly what's going on before they even arrive. I was taught as a child that if the cops are coming get away from your gun.
Should I have to "fear" the cops this way? Not really. Do they know I'm the good guy and not the threat? Hell, no. But the potential consequences for doing anything less are too great to even consider. Same thing if I have any substantial contact with a cop, I let them know quietly and politely that I am carrying.
Unless the homeowner refused an order to drop the gun, or pointed it at the officers after they had identified themselves, I'm guessing the cops will eventually be found at fault.
Except I don't think he called the police to begin with.Stupid questions - but I mean if I just shot a guy I would be pretty cautious. When I say pretty cautious, I mean that I would be constantly on the phone with 911 to give them updates on my status and the status of what occurred until the police have arrived - not continuing to freely roam around the house with gun in hand, no?
even comes from???continuing to freely roam around the house with gun in hand
From TFA's TFA:Except I don't think he called the police to begin with.
Someone reported the breakin.Shortly after 1:30 a.m., the Aurora Police Department says officers responded to a home near the intersection of East Montview Boulevard and Iola Street for a reported break-in.
He was probably still hopped up a bit on adrenaline/sleepy time (it was 1:30 am and he was 73). Odds are good he wasn't thinking straight, and didn't realize that a handful of armed police were about to break into his house and start shooting.Stupid questions - but I mean if I just shot a guy I would be pretty cautious. When I say pretty cautious, I mean that I would be constantly on the phone with 911 to give them updates on my status and the status of what occurred until the police have arrived - not continuing to freely roam around the house with gun in hand, no?
How about put down the firearm before the police arrive?So what's your solution? Less police? Less firearms?
I'm sure you'd be perfectly behaved after shooting someone. There's just no chance the mindfuckery of having just killed someone would overwhelm and consume your mind. Your first thoughts would absolutely be so organized and calm. Safety first!Stupid questions - but I mean if I just shot a guy I would be pretty cautious. When I say pretty cautious, I mean that I would be constantly on the phone with 911 to give them updates on my status and the status of what occurred until the police have arrived - not continuing to freely roam around the house with gun in hand, no?
How Dare You imply responsible gun owners could EVER be anything but calm, cool and collected. Adrenaline? They got this! Sleepy? They got this? Drunk/Altered? They got this! Racist? They got this! Violent? They got this! Mentally ill? They got this! 1:30 in the morning? They got this! 73 years old (or ANY age)? They got this!From TFA's TFA:
Someone reported the breakin.
He was probably still hopped up a bit on adrenaline/sleepy time (it was 1:30 am and he was 73). Odds are good he wasn't thinking straight, and didn't realize that a handful of armed police were about to break into his house and start shooting.
Well in a perfect world (involving grenading babies I presume?) killing another human being won't impact someone's mental state enough that they aren't able think straight.How about put down the firearm before the police arrive?
Yeah because guns in the hands of civilians notoriously make for safe and calm engagement.Nothing to see here folks, just the usual suspects defending the actions of a shoot first ask questions later police force. They arrived and heard gun shots and immediately decided the last man standing was a threat so they killed him. At what point do we stop excusing the poor training and decision making made by those that choose to put their lives on the line and are supposed to protect and serve, not murder and investigate afterward.
Seriously, the police got called, they should know the address and the name of the owner of the house. It takes all of five seconds to ask the person their name and to slide the weapon on the floor before opening fire on someone you assume to be a criminal.
He was white from what I saw on the news.
Yeah because guns in the hands of civilians notoriously make for safe and calm engagement.
The wisdom you provide to discussions like this is vastly underwhelming.tree of liberty or some such
Which is a greater threat to your 2a rights than any Democrat in office ever will be.The police are not your friends when you're holding a firearm............ ever.
I disagree, but you have a right to your opinion.Which is a greater threat to your 2a rights than any Democrat in office ever will be.
What good are your 2a rights when the state can conveniently gun you down any time you actually exercise it?I disagree, but you have a right to your opinion.