We're probably going to be moving the cage away from the speakers. I need to take another picture with the cage moved and my HD-DVD player. I also need to get the TV cables cleaned up better.
Originally posted by: vi_edit
For an added part of the poll it would have been interesting to see what sort of speakers people used.
Fronts: on wall, tower, bookshelf, in wall, ect.
Rears: on wall, in wall, tower, ect.
And if you really wanted to get technical, you could ask if people actually calibrated crossovers
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Bump since someone mentioned it
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Bump since someone mentioned it
Hey,
can I hijack your thread for a second?
I'm wondering if you are familiar with stereo tube pream/amps setups and how could I (if possible at all) integrate it in a HT setup.
Possibly without running mixers between audio preamp and final mono amps, but I might accept having a mixer between the HT sources and the preamp.
That would help a lot.
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Bump since someone mentioned it
Hey,
can I hijack your thread for a second?
I'm wondering if you are familiar with stereo tube pream/amps setups and how could I (if possible at all) integrate it in a HT setup.
Possibly without running mixers between audio preamp and final mono amps, but I might accept having a mixer between the HT sources and the preamp.
That would help a lot.
I haven't really looked into tubes personally... mainly because I don't have the budget for it and it's a ton easier for HT applications to just go solid state for multichannel use.
Almost all of the applications I've seen with tubes have been for strictly 2.0/2.1 audio.
I found a 5.1 tube preamp here but it's probably not what you're looking for
http://www.fosgateaudionics.com/products/FAP-V1.asp
"the only vacuum tube driven surround sound processor in the world"
When you say integrate into a HT setup, what do you mean exactly? I'm kind of assuming you want to use the tube gear for 2.0/2.1 music but would like to use the same equipment for 5.1+ HT usage as well? What if you could reuse the tube amps but had two pre-amps?
I could see having a tube preamp for 2-channel music listening and then another solid-state preamp for surround sound HT usage.
What about getting a tube amp that allows pass-through so you can hook up a HT preamp/processor for movie watching while using the tube pre-amp for music?
Or... if the monoblocks have more than one input on them (XLR and RCA?), hook up the tube preamp for music use via XLR and switch them over to RCA for HT usage with another solid state pre-amp? (Sounds like that could be some work).
Someone else can probably offer you better suggestions since I really haven't looked into tube stuff at all and what would be involved in an effective multichannel setup for tubes.
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Bump since someone mentioned it
Hey,
can I hijack your thread for a second?
I'm wondering if you are familiar with stereo tube pream/amps setups and how could I (if possible at all) integrate it in a HT setup.
Possibly without running mixers between audio preamp and final mono amps, but I might accept having a mixer between the HT sources and the preamp.
That would help a lot.
I haven't really looked into tubes personally... mainly because I don't have the budget for it and it's a ton easier for HT applications to just go solid state for multichannel use.
Almost all of the applications I've seen with tubes have been for strictly 2.0/2.1 audio.
I found a 5.1 tube preamp here but it's probably not what you're looking for
http://www.fosgateaudionics.com/products/FAP-V1.asp
"the only vacuum tube driven surround sound processor in the world"
When you say integrate into a HT setup, what do you mean exactly? I'm kind of assuming you want to use the tube gear for 2.0/2.1 music but would like to use the same equipment for 5.1+ HT usage as well? What if you could reuse the tube amps but had two pre-amps?
I could see having a tube preamp for 2-channel music listening and then another solid-state preamp for surround sound HT usage.
What about getting a tube amp that allows pass-through so you can hook up a HT preamp/processor for movie watching while using the tube pre-amp for music?
Or... if the monoblocks have more than one input on them (XLR and RCA?), hook up the tube preamp for music use via XLR and switch them over to RCA for HT usage with another solid state pre-amp? (Sounds like that could be some work).
Someone else can probably offer you better suggestions since I really haven't looked into tube stuff at all and what would be involved in an effective multichannel setup for tubes.
Sorry... my question was a mess.
Let me explain: I have a stereo setup composed by a tube preamp and tube finals. The fact that they are tube ampli is actually irrelevant for my problem. It just explain the reason why I don't want to get rid of them...
My problem is: I would like to use the two speakers as frontal speaker in an HT setup. Basically use them in stereo for music, and in 5.1 for HT.
So, how can I get a system that let do that? I am not really sure that it could be made.. I could run the HT receiver into different inputs in the monoblocks, as you correctly advised, but then I should use the finals for movies, and considering the average tube life it's not really something I'd like to do. I must basically find a way to connect the speakers to two inputs...
hum... it's kind of a headache.
I have actually lived without a tv for many years now, using a 30" PC monitor for the DVDs with a HT-in-a-box for sound, and I would be more than happy to keep the things separated. Alas, my girlfriend works in film production and now she just wants the HT in the main room. But I am for music a little bit like you are for HT, and I'll defend my sound system with my teeth if necessary...
Maybe I should just change girlfriend...
Edit after re-reading your answer: two preamps with one final could work, granted I should give up my monoblocks and use a 5.1 final (do they exist?) and keep a pre for stereo and another for HT. Hum... I might look into this possibility.
Oh, and tubes are not really that expensive anymore. Not all of the tube pre/integrated are
ultra luxury equipment. Primaluna, for example makes incredible integrated amps for 1000$. And they sound like much, much more expensive amps.
Originally posted by: secretanchitman
oh man, i had forgotten to post pics of my ht setup. i will revisit this thread later (or make up a new one just for yoyo and others) and post links to the pics.
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Bump since someone mentioned it
Hey,
can I hijack your thread for a second?
I'm wondering if you are familiar with stereo tube pream/amps setups and how could I (if possible at all) integrate it in a HT setup.
Possibly without running mixers between audio preamp and final mono amps, but I might accept having a mixer between the HT sources and the preamp.
That would help a lot.
I haven't really looked into tubes personally... mainly because I don't have the budget for it and it's a ton easier for HT applications to just go solid state for multichannel use.
Almost all of the applications I've seen with tubes have been for strictly 2.0/2.1 audio.
I found a 5.1 tube preamp here but it's probably not what you're looking for
http://www.fosgateaudionics.com/products/FAP-V1.asp
"the only vacuum tube driven surround sound processor in the world"
When you say integrate into a HT setup, what do you mean exactly? I'm kind of assuming you want to use the tube gear for 2.0/2.1 music but would like to use the same equipment for 5.1+ HT usage as well? What if you could reuse the tube amps but had two pre-amps?
I could see having a tube preamp for 2-channel music listening and then another solid-state preamp for surround sound HT usage.
What about getting a tube amp that allows pass-through so you can hook up a HT preamp/processor for movie watching while using the tube pre-amp for music?
Or... if the monoblocks have more than one input on them (XLR and RCA?), hook up the tube preamp for music use via XLR and switch them over to RCA for HT usage with another solid state pre-amp? (Sounds like that could be some work).
Someone else can probably offer you better suggestions since I really haven't looked into tube stuff at all and what would be involved in an effective multichannel setup for tubes.
Sorry... my question was a mess.
Let me explain: I have a stereo setup composed by a tube preamp and tube finals. The fact that they are tube ampli is actually irrelevant for my problem. It just explain the reason why I don't want to get rid of them...
My problem is: I would like to use the two speakers as frontal speaker in an HT setup. Basically use them in stereo for music, and in 5.1 for HT.
So, how can I get a system that let do that? I am not really sure that it could be made.. I could run the HT receiver into different inputs in the monoblocks, as you correctly advised, but then I should use the finals for movies, and considering the average tube life it's not really something I'd like to do. I must basically find a way to connect the speakers to two inputs...
hum... it's kind of a headache.
I have actually lived without a tv for many years now, using a 30" PC monitor for the DVDs with a HT-in-a-box for sound, and I would be more than happy to keep the things separated. Alas, my girlfriend works in film production and now she just wants the HT in the main room. But I am for music a little bit like you are for HT, and I'll defend my sound system with my teeth if necessary...
Maybe I should just change girlfriend...
Edit after re-reading your answer: two preamps with one final could work, granted I should give up my monoblocks and use a 5.1 final (do they exist?) and keep a pre for stereo and another for HT. Hum... I might look into this possibility.
Oh, and tubes are not really that expensive anymore. Not all of the tube pre/integrated are
ultra luxury equipment. Primaluna, for example makes incredible integrated amps for 1000$. And they sound like much, much more expensive amps.
Ok, now I see what you're trying to do.
If you're not too worried about using solid state for the whole HT end of things, then I think that's probably going to be easy.
I know there are a variety of products out there that act as speaker selectors so for example if you have one stereo amp and two locations with stereo speakers, you can select which set of speakers are being powered by the amp.
If you wired that up in reverse, then you should be able to use it to select which of your two amps is powering your front speakers. I have not looked into speaker switches or if they would be the best option for doing what you're trying to do, but that would be my first thought.
So it would go
MUSIC
Music Source --> Tube Pre --> Tube Amp --> Speaker Selector on "A" --> Front Stereo Speakers
HT
HT Source --> SS Pre --> SS Amp --> Speaker Selector on "B" --> Front Stereo Speakers (with other speakers hooked up directly to the other SS Amp channels)
OR
HT Source --> SS Receiver --> Speaker Selector on "B" --> Front Stereo Speakers (with other speakers hooked up directly to the other SS Amp channels)
When I mentioned budget before, I can't afford to spend $1000 per speaker pair when I have a 7.1 system
I spent about $1500 on my SS separates and that's pretty much all I want to spend for quite a while. Boston Acoustics clones of the Sherwood Newcastle units
How much are you thinking about spending on this project?
Are you picking out speakers to match your current pair, or something else?
Originally posted by: Tango
Thanks! That actually helped a lot..
As I said my current stereo setup is already done. I'll need a serious central channel speaker. Then I'll see how the back channels I have now (crappy) integrate and decide if I want to buy new ones.
My front speakers are Gallo Reference III. I know they produce a matched central channel, but I have no experience with it. Any suggestions?
I probably will also need a serious 5.1 receiver although the (crappy) one I have does everything I wanted. I don't know how it would drive those speakers though, they like quite a lot of power to really sing.
Any suggestion for a receiver worth spending money in? Would I really notice big improvements over a HT-in-a-box receiver if used only for movies? I still have some time to think about this, as I am moving to another apartment and the system went back to sleeping in the boxes right now...
Final question (while you're here): what's your take on DVD up-conversion to HD? It sounds to me like a gimmick... after all you cannot really create information if it's not there right? Does it actually work in some way?
Thanks a lot again.
Originally posted by: Muse
What is your display size? 7 x 5 foot screen
What is the aspect ratio of your display? 16:9