Homeland seasons 1-4!

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Blanky

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Oct 18, 2014
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Boringest season finale yet

I dunno, the finale of season 3 was hilariously bad, too.

This show is still interesting, but it has completely lost the magic of season 1 & 2, just absolutely lost it. I don't know that they will ever get it back.

Stupidest parts of season 4:
1)
Lockhart went from dominant asshole to sheepish little bitch. One day he's texting the Pakistanis what to do and dismissing the ambassador while he checks his facebook in the meeting and the next day he's like a child spanked and doing what he's told.

2) Carrie goes from a person who doesn't care that much that she murdered 40 people at a wedding for no good reason to actively doing her very best to stop Quinn from killing Hacani (and I'm not just referring to stopping him killing a bunch of people)

3) Quinn not having a rifle. Wtf! When Carrie stopped quinn from killing everyone and hacani gets out of the sun roof why in fuck wasn't he shot by quinn? That would totally vindicated her decision, been completely in line with Quinn's intelligence having a back up plan, and just been awesome

4) Lockhart was a COMPLETE ASSHOLE to open the door to the vault and there's no damn way that he would have done it. The terrorists had just murdered tons of people and there is no way anybody with intelligence would think they'd take the info they wanted and not do the same thing and/or kidnap more people

5) When Saul was running away in his little town and nearly killed himself he was stupid not to have had the pistol ready to eat a bullet if he got surrounded by people. He should have known this.

6) Other annoyances, but i need to stop somewhere

This show is at its peak when Carrie + Saul are tag-teaming with their crazy deceptions and plans. Saul is still a boss and they need to focus more of the show around him than Carrie. I also don't like what they did at the end in the diner with Saul and the acne guy, didn't care for that at all.
 
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Kev

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Yeah the show is pretty much circling the drain at this point. They're going full Dexter with it. I won't be watching this time, though.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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I read somewhere that season 4 and it's wrap up was a return to what the show was intended to be -- a show about Carrie and her personal struggles? Wait --- WHAT?! nobody and I mean NOBODY watches the show for Carrie, and certainly not her personal trials and tribulations.
 

radhak

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I read somewhere that season 4 and it's wrap up was a return to what the show was intended to be -- a show about Carrie and her personal struggles? Wait --- WHAT?! nobody and I mean NOBODY watches the show for Carrie, and certainly not her personal trials and tribulations.

Well said. If that's what they claim now, then I charge them with bait-and-switch. They promised Homeland, a series about protecting the USA from overt and covert terrorism. I'm willing to sit thru some personal issues, particularly if there's a minor fallout on their jobs, or something like that. But this series used to be not mainly about putting anybody's personal struggles center stage.

When I celebrated the departure of Brody's whiny daughter, and even, in a way, of Brody (his death was a whimper by any standards) in S3, I did not realize they were getting ready to emasculate Quinn by making him sentimental about Carrie. When he stood up for Carrie in S2 (to David, the acting CIA Director), it made him look logical, even magnanimous. Now they are trying to turn that into mush.

And they are getting really sloppy - they are not bothering to create believable situations to advance their pre-determined story-line, so it looks forced:
- They want to set up Season 5 (US 'assets' in Pak threatened by terrorists who have the list), so they somehow contrive to get the list into the hands of the terrorists (a CIA director hands over that list of many assets for one person who's sure to be killed minutes later - really??!?).
- They don't want Quinn killing Hakkani (again, because he's needed for S5), so they have Carrie wandering aimlessly but accurately right at the gates that have the explosives at the exactly wrong time!!
- They don't want Saul dying, so he drops (!!!) off his hand gun at the most ridiculous moment, when anybody would know he should hold onto it, just because.
It used to be many notches above 24. Not so any longer. And that's pretty damning.
 

nickbits

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Mar 10, 2008
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I liked season 4 but the finale was terrible. Also I hope Carrie's baby dies. That thing is ugly and I'd rather the show not have to deal with " mommy issues"
 
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