Homeland security: The Caravan is Dangerous

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Mr.Vegas

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Hello, new user here. The reason I registered because I noticed that post titled: "Military assesment shows caravan not a threat but unregulated malitias are" [ You write Assessment with twice double S and Militias not Malitias] But spelling is not the actual reason [Not native English speaker so mine is probably worse].
I got annoyed by the lies and propaganda spread by the left, as always they dont have any actual facts, names, proven sources only "leaks", Leaks that can be written by their janitor and then leaked in the restroom to the editor.
Here are some facts:

Myth vs. Fact: Caravan
Release Date:
November 1, 2018


Below are the facts surrounding the “caravans” en route to the U.S. Southwest border.

Q: Do we know who is in the caravan?
A: We continue to be concerned about individuals along the caravan route. In fact, over 270 individuals along the caravan route have criminal histories, including known gang membership. Those include a number of violent criminals – examples include aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, sexual assault on a child, and assault on a female. Mexican officials have also publicly stated that criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan. We also continue to see individuals from over 20 countries in this flow from countries such as Somalia, India, Haiti, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh. There is a large segment of this population that we know nothing about and we must be prepared to defend our border and enforce our laws to protect the citizens of our country.

Q: Are there criminals in the caravan?
A: Yes – so far, there are over 270 individuals along the caravan route that have criminal histories, including known gang membership.

On October 29, the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. described some of the caravan members as “very violent:” “Unfortunately, some of the people in the caravan have been very violent against authority, even though they have offered the possibility of entering in compliance with immigration law and refugee status.”

On October 30, Mexico’s Interior Minister Navarrete Prida speaking on Radio Enfoque (Focus) 100.1 FM, confirmed that some criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan: “I have videos from Guatemala that show men dressed in identical clothing, sporting the same haircuts, handing out money to women to persuade them to move to the front of the caravan…We know, for a fact, that some members of the caravan threatened [Mexican] Migration Institute personnel and we have images showing many of them preparing Molotov cocktails.”

Q: Is the caravan only women and children?
A: No, reports on the ground from our foreign partners suggest that approximately 50 percent are single adults. However, the Guatemalan Intel Minister said that the caravan is employing tactics to push women and children to the front to act as human shields as the caravan pushes against its military forces.

Q: How many troops will be deployed to the Southwest border?
A: By November 2, there will be approximately 5,200 deployed to support U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the Southwest border as part of Operation Faithful Patriot. This is in addition to the 2,000 National Guardsmen currently deployed for Operation Guardian Support.

Q: When do you expect the caravan to arrive at the border?
A: Current estimates indicate that the caravan could arrive between four days and two weeks (from October 31) depending on the mode of transportation and whether they make any prolonged stops.

Q: Why do you need to deploy the armed forces to the border?
A: The potential for large groups – who have already showed a propensity to using violence to achieve its objective – presents a unique safety threat to our nation and Border Patrol personnel as well as to the security of the American people. We have already witnessed these groups forcibly encroach upon foreign borders and have engaged in violence when confronted by those governments.

Q: Why are we seeing caravans heading towards our Southwest border?
A: Our nation is experiencing an unprecedented crisis on our Southern Border that is the result of loopholes that prevent the detention and repatriation of illegal alien minors and family units. FY18 is the highest number of family unit apprehensions on record – it is more than 40% higher than any previous year on record. As a result of these loopholes, when illegal alien minors or adults traveling with minors unlawfully enter the United States, rather than being detained and removed, they are released into American communities. Once released, those who have no legal right to stay are almost never removed. Knowledge of these loopholes has led to a dramatic transformation in the population of those seeking to enter our country illegally.

Q: Will you allow the caravan to enter the United States?
A: We will not allow a large group of illegal migrants attempt to enter into the United States if they have no lawful right to gain entry.

Q: Will the caravan be allowed to seek asylum?
A: Our goal is to provide protection to those individuals who qualify for asylum under our laws. Individuals who want jobs or want to reunify with family members in the U.S. aren’t eligible to qualify for asylum.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/11/01/myth-vs-fact-caravan
 
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xgsound

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This is exactly the same as 100 people saying they will break into your house and then tell you what else they want.

I only need to hear the "break into your house part" and I know what to do.
How many of you would say "Sure, come on in and take what you want" ?

How is 1,000s storming the border any different ?

Of all the possible options to address this, I think a wall is the least damaging to the invading caravan people.
 
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trenchfoot

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Silly me. I thought this caravan thingy being hyped up by Trump was red meat bait to get more red meat eaters to join in on the hate and fear bandwagon and vote Repub by the seats of their soiled pants rather than the logical reasoning abilities they sacrificed in the name of Trump was THE reason the caravan was being brought up front and center by Trump and the GOP spin machine.

edit- In true Trumpian fashion, all facts and figures are written on toilet paper that Trump wipes his ass with and flushes it away like all of those broken promises he made. Facts and figures are meaningless to any True Trump follower.

So why is it of any use to declare that some alleged facts are now pertinent points of argument when to Trump these things never really mattered to him and his supporters to begin with?
 
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Mr.Vegas

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This is exactly the same as 100 people saying they will break into your house and then tell you what else they want.

I only need to hear the "break into your house part" and I know what to do.
How many of you would say "Sure, come on in and take what you want" ?

How is 1,000s storming the border any different ?

Of all the possible options to address this, I think a wall is the least damaging to the invading caravan people.

I dont even understand why would anyone need to consider the Invaders feelings?
They are INVADERS, people that have no rights, illegal infiltrators.
 

Mr.Vegas

Junior Member
Nov 5, 2018
18
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Silly me. I thought this caravan thingy being hyped up by Trump was red meat bait to get more red meat eaters to join in on the hate and fear bandwagon and vote Repub by the seats of their soiled pants rather than the logical reasoning abilities they sacrificed in the name of Trump was THE reason the caravan was being brought up front and center by Trump and the GOP spin machine.

You make no sense or logic, every side beats up the drums before elections.
Im sure that the only thing Leftists want is tor the Right side to just close up the office and give them the keys to be the sole rulers for eternity, just like in USSR.


OR an elderly women can go Naked FOR THE DEMOCRATS, so you'll have a reason to go voting [doesn't make any sense, dose it?]

Nude Chelsea Handler Urges Fans to Get Out and Vote ‘Like Your Life Depends on It’



 

alien42

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Nov 28, 2004
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I dont even understand why would anyone need to consider the Invaders feelings?
They are INVADERS, people that have no rights, illegal infiltrators.

You speak of lies and propaganda and then you spread actual lies and propaganda. Seeking asylum in the US is not illegal.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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You make no sense or logic, every side beats up the drums before elections.
Im sure that the only thing Leftists want is tor the Right side to just close up the office and give them the keys to be the sole rulers for eternity, just like in USSR.


OR an elderly women can go Naked FOR THE DEMOCRATS, so you'll have a reason to go voting [doesn't make any sense, dose it?]

Nude Chelsea Handler Urges Fans to Get Out and Vote ‘Like Your Life Depends on It’




It took you 2 whole posts to jump the shark and derail your own thread by going off topic.

Not sure your overlord Putin would approve.
 

nickqt

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Jan 15, 2015
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Hello, new user here. The reason I registered because I noticed that post titled: "Military assesment shows caravan not a threat but unregulated malitias are" [ You write Assessment with twice double S and Militias not Malitias] But spelling is not the actual reason [Not native English speaker so mine is probably worse].
I got annoyed by the lies and propaganda spread by the left, as always they dont have any actual facts, names, proven sources only "leaks", Leaks that can be written by their janitor and then leaked in the restroom to the editor.
Here are some facts:

Myth vs. Fact: Caravan
Release Date:
November 1, 2018


Below are the facts surrounding the “caravans” en route to the U.S. Southwest border.

Q: Do we know who is in the caravan?
A: We continue to be concerned about individuals along the caravan route. In fact, over 270 individuals along the caravan route have criminal histories, including known gang membership. Those include a number of violent criminals – examples include aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, sexual assault on a child, and assault on a female. Mexican officials have also publicly stated that criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan. We also continue to see individuals from over 20 countries in this flow from countries such as Somalia, India, Haiti, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh. There is a large segment of this population that we know nothing about and we must be prepared to defend our border and enforce our laws to protect the citizens of our country.

Q: Are there criminals in the caravan?
A: Yes – so far, there are over 270 individuals along the caravan route that have criminal histories, including known gang membership.

On October 29, the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. described some of the caravan members as “very violent:” “Unfortunately, some of the people in the caravan have been very violent against authority, even though they have offered the possibility of entering in compliance with immigration law and refugee status.”

On October 30, Mexico’s Interior Minister Navarrete Prida speaking on Radio Enfoque (Focus) 100.1 FM, confirmed that some criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan: “I have videos from Guatemala that show men dressed in identical clothing, sporting the same haircuts, handing out money to women to persuade them to move to the front of the caravan…We know, for a fact, that some members of the caravan threatened [Mexican] Migration Institute personnel and we have images showing many of them preparing Molotov cocktails.”

Q: Is the caravan only women and children?
A: No, reports on the ground from our foreign partners suggest that approximately 50 percent are single adults. However, the Guatemalan Intel Minister said that the caravan is employing tactics to push women and children to the front to act as human shields as the caravan pushes against its military forces.

Q: How many troops will be deployed to the Southwest border?
A: By November 2, there will be approximately 5,200 deployed to support U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the Southwest border as part of Operation Faithful Patriot. This is in addition to the 2,000 National Guardsmen currently deployed for Operation Guardian Support.

Q: When do you expect the caravan to arrive at the border?
A: Current estimates indicate that the caravan could arrive between four days and two weeks (from October 31) depending on the mode of transportation and whether they make any prolonged stops.

Q: Why do you need to deploy the armed forces to the border?
A: The potential for large groups – who have already showed a propensity to using violence to achieve its objective – presents a unique safety threat to our nation and Border Patrol personnel as well as to the security of the American people. We have already witnessed these groups forcibly encroach upon foreign borders and have engaged in violence when confronted by those governments.

Q: Why are we seeing caravans heading towards our Southwest border?
A: Our nation is experiencing an unprecedented crisis on our Southern Border that is the result of loopholes that prevent the detention and repatriation of illegal alien minors and family units. FY18 is the highest number of family unit apprehensions on record – it is more than 40% higher than any previous year on record. As a result of these loopholes, when illegal alien minors or adults traveling with minors unlawfully enter the United States, rather than being detained and removed, they are released into American communities. Once released, those who have no legal right to stay are almost never removed. Knowledge of these loopholes has led to a dramatic transformation in the population of those seeking to enter our country illegally.

Q: Will you allow the caravan to enter the United States?
A: We will not allow a large group of illegal migrants attempt to enter into the United States if they have no lawful right to gain entry.

Q: Will the caravan be allowed to seek asylum?
A: Our goal is to provide protection to those individuals who qualify for asylum under our laws. Individuals who want jobs or want to reunify with family members in the U.S. aren’t eligible to qualify for asylum.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/11/01/myth-vs-fact-caravan
You're an idiot.
 

Thunder 57

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I dont even understand why would anyone need to consider the Invaders feelings?
They are INVADERS, people that have no rights, illegal infiltrators.

You will not last long here. This place leans uber left. But, maybe that is why you came in the first place.

You speak of lies and propaganda and then you spread actual lies and propaganda. Seeking asylum in the US is not illegal.

So why not seek asylum in Mexico or other countries? Oh wait, because they are country shopping. This is one thing I don't get. Often times you will hear the left say how "America" (US) is not great. Yet so much of the world tries to come here.
 

Meghan54

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You will not last long here. This place leans uber left. But, maybe that is why you came in the first place.



So why not seek asylum in Mexico or other countries? Oh wait, because they are country shopping. This is one thing I don't get. Often times you will hear the left say how "America" (US) is not great. Yet so much of the world tries to come here.


Please post links/cite sources for the bolded part, please.
 
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