Homeowner executes two burglars

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Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Murder to save $$....I don't think so.

Hell, I haven't killed anyone yet and I've got 13 firearms. Must need better bait.:hmm:

Ausm, would you like to come over for dinner? It's a hoodie/skittles party. Welcome to my parlor.

D:
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Regardless of what the law says, you can't go shooting attractive, middle class white kids. This guy should fry.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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If everything is true in the story, I do not believe the two burglars should be dead but let put the blame squarely on where it should be, on the burglars.

If they did not break into other people's houses, they would be alive today. Period.
 

ichy

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2006
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I'm not trolling. I hate criminals. I also realize that if they hadn't made the choice to break into people's homes they would be alive today.
 

tydas

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Mar 10, 2000
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Unfortunately, for them they entered his wacky domain..sorry, no real sympathy for them…

I do think he should be punished albiet mildly...he was not the one who initiated the event...
 

CitizenKain

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Jul 6, 2000
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I think in this circumstance, given they decided to put their lives in another persons hand by breaking into someones residence, and given he's in the heat of the moment, he should get no more than 5 years? Why serve time at all? Because executing them wasn't absolutely necessary.


Other than not calling the police right away (maybe he is really that nice in regards to not bugging them), and executing them, I'm fine with him waiting for them. The second they decided to become scum, they open themselves up to being treated like scum. Sometimes you need to wait scum out to see where it needs attention the most...

Chuck

So he had the both the heat of the moment, and the time to sit there and wait for one to descend the stairs, shoot them multiple times, and then get the gun juuuuuust right to finish them off. The only reason he wouldn't call the cops right away is that he had something to hide. That bullshit line about not wanting to bother the police is amazing. Can't believe anyone would be dumb enough to believe it, but then again, its this forum.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Unfortunately, for them they entered his wacky domain..sorry, no real sympathy for them…

I do think he should be punished albiet mildly...he was not the one who initiated the event...

I don't imagine two counts of murder 2 will be mild.
 

blankslate

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2008
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1: Good initial shooting
2: Bad execution following

Pretty much this. Shooting the person more because they laughed? Sorry but the girl may have been in dumb shock and laughing just came out instead of crying.

This shooter also sounds a bit off kilter if you read the entire story.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Having been burglarized once myself, I believe that burglars deserve a painful horrific death. However, that said, this guy definitely went too far and deserves prison.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Wetzel said that while the shootings happened on Thursday, Smith waited until Friday to report the deaths, explaining that "he didn't want to trouble us on a holiday."

LOL! Ok, what he did is not funny at all but this has batshit crazy written all over it. I mean, who in the hell brags about quite literally executing people to the cops?

As far as the OP acquitting him, WTF is wrong with you? Frankly, I like that our gun laws are becoming less restrictive and give law abiding citizens greater ease and leniency of acquiring and using firearms for self defense. This kind of shit will get the ole emotions going and turn that trend around real quick if the gun nuts start screaming "good shoot".
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Link? I thought the only exception was rape.

Here is my states law:
Art. 236. Justification of parent’s assault in defense of children.
Fathers and mothers may justify themselves in an action begun against them for assault and battery, if they have acted in the defense of the persons of their children.
§21. Aggressor cannot claim self defense
A person who is the aggressor or who brings on a difficulty cannot claim the right of self-defense unless he withdraws from the conflict in good faith and in such a manner that his adversary knows or should know that he desires to withdraw and discontinue the conflict.
§20. Justifiable homicide
A homicide is justifiable:
(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.
(2) When committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm by one who reasonably believes that such an offense is about to be committed and that such action is necessary for its prevention. The circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fear of a reasonable person that there would be serious danger to his own life or person if he attempted to prevent the felony without the killing.
(3) When committed against a person whom one reasonably believes to be likely to use any unlawful force against a person present in a dwelling or a place of business, or when committed against a person whom one reasonably believes is attempting to use any unlawful force against a person present in a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), while committing or attempting to commit a burglary or robbery of such dwelling, business, or motor vehicle. The homicide shall be justifiable even though the person does not retreat from the encounter.
(4) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle. The homicide shall be justifiable even though the person committing the homicide does not retreat from the encounter.


Legally you don't even have to wait for them to actually get inside the house and they don't have to be visibly "threatening". This was actually tested not long ago when a homeowner shot someone trying to break in through his second story window. Guy shot him with a shotgun before the window was even open (think it was unlocked and he was trying to open the window) and no charges were brought.
 

chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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So he had the both the heat of the moment, and the time to sit there and wait for one to descend the stairs, shoot them multiple times, and then get the gun juuuuuust right to finish them off.

Exactly. Unless he's a stone cold psycho, his system would still be jacked with adreneline, and it's not like he had to wait hours for the other to come down the stairs...so it's not like he had time to come down from that high. If these scum wanted to not have a risk of getting shot, they could have taken the shocking action of not invading someones home. No big crocodile tears found...

The only reason he wouldn't call the cops right away is that he had something to hide. That bullshit line about not wanting to bother the police is amazing. Can't believe anyone would be dumb enough to believe it, but then again, its this forum.

Maybe he just didn't want to be bothered ruining the rest of his day, or someone elses? Sounds like he was just being considerate. () Prove otherwise...

Chuck
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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LOL! Ok, what he did is not funny at all but this has batshit crazy written all over it. I mean, who in the hell brags about quite literally executing people to the cops?

As far as the OP acquitting him, WTF is wrong with you? Frankly, I like that our gun laws are becoming less restrictive and give law abiding citizens greater ease and leniency of acquiring and using firearms for self defense. This kind of shit will get the ole emotions going and turn that trend around real quick if the gun nuts start screaming "good shoot".

That got me to scratching my head as well, but not as much as the fact that the guy's first words to his neighbor were "know a good lawyer?" and he then proceeds to sing like a canary to the police. Like most criminals he definately is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 

sigurros81

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Exactly. Unless he's a stone cold psycho, his system would still be jacked with adreneline, and it's not like he had to wait hours for the other to come down the stairs...so it's not like he had time to come down from that high. If these scum wanted to not have a risk of getting shot, they could have taken the shocking action of not invading someones home. No big crocodile tears found...



Maybe he just didn't want to be bothered ruining the rest of his day, or someone elses? Sounds like he was just being considerate. () Prove otherwise...

Chuck

I'm sure this is not the first time you hear this but I think you have mental issues.
 

blankslate

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2008
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No big crocodile tears found...

If he gets charged and convicted with murder for executing two people after they were no longer a threat then hey no crocodile tears here about that.

Of course I guess in your world two wrongs do make a right.
 

Keeper

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If everything is true in the story, I do not believe the two burglars should be dead but let put the blame squarely on where it should be, on the burglars.

If they did not break into other people's houses, they would be alive today. Period.


Plus one for your logic........ NO ONE TAKES BLAME....

I heard a great (Sarcasm) news report the other day... Red Light cameras make drivers unsafe....


ARE YOU EFFIN KIDDING ME?????
 

chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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I'm sure this is not the first time you hear this but I think you have mental issues.

You don't think being in a situation where your home is being invaded, let alone you're going to have to possibly/probably shoot people, isn't going to produce an adreneline high? Got some ice in your veins there son...

Chuck
 

sigurros81

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Nov 30, 2010
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You don't think being in a situation where your home is being invaded, let alone you're going to have to possibly/probably shoot people, isn't going to produce an adreneline high? Got some ice in your veins there son...

Chuck

I'm not sure I've ever experience an adrenaline high where I want to put a gun under the chin of a dying girl and execute her with a shot to her brain, but then again, I'm mentally stable, what's your excuse?

That's ok, freaks like you are a good personal reminder that there are a lot of creepy sociopaths lurking out there, especially in online tech forums.
 
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chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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If he gets charged and convicted with murder for executing two people after they were no longer a threat then hey no crocodile tears here about that.

Of course I guess in your world two wrongs do make a right.

If he gets no more than 5 years, then nope as I already said, no problem with that. If he gets more than 5 years, then yeah I'd say that's BS. I would of course expect people feeling sorry for these two scum jizzing in their pants at this guy getting time, I'd absolutely expect that.

The only right here was when he shot these two scum. It's when he deliberately killed them after he first shot them that there is a - medium - problem. So to be more accurate, this would be like 2 wrongs overriding 1 right. Someone needs to account for that outstanding wrong, and it's this guy. The weighting though of the wrongs is not the same. There is 2 scum, both invading a home. That's far worse than ridding society of the scum.

Which is why I say, he should serve 3-5 total for going overboard.

Chuck
 
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