that's not how the law works. once a threat is eliminated you stop. you don't walk up to someone lying on the floor and put a bullet in their brain point blank. that is why he's rotting in jail.
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
What's this rendered helpless crap?
When you shoot there is only one option, shoot to kill.
He didn't get it right the first time.
She should have never been "rendered helpless", she should have been shot dead.
He got there eventually apparently.
If a burglar is in your house are you going to shoot to "render helpless" or shoot to kill?
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
What's this rendered helpless crap?
When you shoot there is only one option, shoot to kill.
He didn't get it right the first time.
She should have never been "rendered helpless", she should have been shot dead.
He got there eventually apparently.
If a burglar is in your house are you going to shoot to "render helpless" or shoot to kill?
"Render helpless", because I'm not psychotic.
that's not how the law works. once a threat is eliminated you stop. you don't walk up to someone lying on the floor and put a bullet in their brain point blank. that is why he's rotting in jail.
How do you know the "threat is eliminated" if not dead?
What's this rendered helpless crap?
When you shoot there is only one option, shoot to kill.
IMO, when the fight or flight response is activated - how can you be held responsible for what you do if you're not the one who chose to be in that situation? these guys broke into the guys house. whether he fights or not isn't really something he thinks about - it's instinct at that point. if he (for example - while freaked out of his mind by them) hits one in the head, then repeatedly (in the heat of the moment) keeps doing it while the guy is on the floor - not his fault and shouldn't be charged with anything.
2 less pieces of shit in the world and the real victim (homeowner) is now going through hell even after their death.
Haha. Too much call of duty for this dumbass.
sadly, legally in the USA, you are better off killing than injuring someone in that situation
Please explain why it's better off to execute incapacitated burglars in this situation.
They can make up whatever story they want if they're still alive to tell a tale. You'll be liable for their injury and get the !@#$ sued out of you, your life ruined.
Surely you hear of such problems.
Haha. Too much call of duty for this dumbass.
No, please cite some examples.
Immunity from civil lawsuit
In addition to providing a valid defense in criminal law, many laws implementing the Castle Doctrine, particularly those with a "Stand-Your-Ground clause", also have a clause which provides immunity from any lawsuit filed on behalf of the assailant for damages or injury resulting from the lawful use of non-excessive force. Without this clause an assailant can sue for medical bills, property damage, disability, and pain and suffering as a result of the injuries inflicted by the defender, or their next-of-kin may sue for wrongful death in the case of a fatality. Even if successfully rebutted, the defendant (the homeowner defender) may have to pay high legal costs as a result of such lawsuits; without immunity, such civil action could be used for revenge against a defender acting lawfully.
Use of force in self-defense which causes damage or injuries to other parties who were not acting criminally may give rise to prosecution and damages.
Obviously you have not been trained to use firearms for protection, both the military and required concealed weapons training I was taught to shoot center mass. Trying to shoot someone in the leg the chances are great that you will miss.
There have been many people sued by the criminal after shooting them in self defense or entering a person's house. This is why many states now have an immunity clause for self defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine
I said examples, I don't need you to link some wikipedia article about the castle doctrine when I could easily look it up myself, and I already know what the castle doctrine is.
Please look through that wikipedia article you so easily cited and tell me where it's OK to execute incapacitated burglars according to the Castle Doctrine.
fucking idiots...
Though this may have started as a case of self defense, it ended in two murders and the man should either given the death penalty/executed (if allowed by state law) or spend the rest of his life in prison with no chance for parole.
Yet that doesn't give the homeowner the right to execute the burglars.
I never said it was okay to execute anyone (see quoted posts below), you asked for example of people being sued for shooting/killing someone in self defense. So I showed you that it was enough of a problem that lawmakers thought they needed to provide protection to ensure a person couldn't be sued for shooting/killing someone in self defense.
Obviously you have not been trained to use firearms for protection, both the military and required concealed weapons training I was taught to shoot center mass. Trying to shoot someone in the leg the chances are great that you will miss.
So thank you for bringing zero to the discussion.
Jugding by some of the sheer bloodlust in this thread, I'd be interested in how would some of you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot (parent, cousin brother etc) DmCowen, and the other wackos in this thread.
If it were my family member and they were killed in the act of someone else defending themselves, sure, it's on them. But if they were disabled, then satanicly executed, well, I'd be the first to make sure that he never saw the light of day aside from the hour he gets from 23-hour lockdown.
I'm sure these wackos would do the same.
LMAO!!!! That's your reply after making a complete fool of yourself.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/ar...urns-teen-cousin-shooting-victims-4065913.php
If I were on the jury when this went to trial I'd vote to acquit him. Sure what he did seems a bit excessive but in the heat of the moment when someone is breaking into your home I can understand why you'd use more force than you absolutely have to. I also wish the media would stop referring to the burglars he shot as victims. They were the ones who started this all and they have no one but themselves to blame for their fate.