Homeowners insurance: keep or drop?

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Humpy

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If it made sense you would already know and not have to ask here.
 

Gooberlx2

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Dropping homeowners insurance and buying a liability-only policy makes sense for certain people. The kind of people who own a $300K home in a hurricane-prone and high-flood risk area, their insurance runs $5,000 a year, and they have two million dollars in liquid assets.

When a total loss wouldn't even cause you the slightest financial problem, and insurance is too expensive with respect to the home value, then maybe.

Even then, that's about 60 years of insurance premiums to come out square for a $300K loss. If you live in a high risk area where the chances of a total loss are so much greater, doesn't it make even more sense to keep the coverage? Sure, you could cover it, but why would you; especially when you could have multiple catastrophic losses within the same 60 year period?
 

ponyo

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Feb 14, 2002
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Dropping homeowners insurance and buying a liability-only policy makes sense for certain people. The kind of people who own a $300K home in a hurricane-prone and high-flood risk area, their insurance runs $5,000 a year, and they have two million dollars in liquid assets.

When a total loss wouldn't even cause you the slightest financial problem, and insurance is too expensive with respect to the home value, then maybe.

Thanks for your input. I do not fit that profile. I guess I'm just venting as I'm tired of paying homeowners insurance and wanted to see if there was another way.
 

MadScientist

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I thought about dropping mine since I have no mortgage, but my daughter, who just purchased a home, had a grease fire in her kitchen. They put it out fairly quickly but had a lot of smoke damage. She just got a check for $18K from her insurance company. You never know when shit will happen.
 

SunnyD

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Yes, I have enough liquid assets to pay for equal replacement. Total loss is the only thing that would really hurt. Everything else, the high deductible prevents me from ever filling a claim.

High deductible? What's your premium? What's your replacement value? What's your deductible?

Honestly, like I said before, it would take me ~3 lifetimes worth of premiums at my current rate to equal what a total loss would pay out. My deductible is only $500. For what it is, it's a drop in the bucket for that sort of security blanket. But like I also said, it's for a hell of a lot more than just a loss too...
 

Humpy

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It's not a bad idea really. It's not even a completely financial question. If a person would be OK with walking away from all their crap and never seeing it again there isn't much need for insurance.

You don't have to have enough cash to rebuild after a complete loss if you own the place out right. You just have to have enough to go rent the place down the street.
 

alkemyst

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You are aware that replacement costs is not the same as the value?
And while the place is being replaced; you have to live elsewhere.
And then you have the furnishings that also need replacement - usually 20-30% of the cost.

If you have the liquid assets and no mortgage; go for it; you feel you have the money.

If you have the mortgage; then pay it off and go bare. Just make sure you know what the actual overall costs can be.

A simple water damage from a backup sewage line can run $5-20K.

Is your deductible that high?

He is clueless in this endeavor. I am looking to bond out one day, but sadly that mark keeps getting pushed higher.

Also I lost like major 5 figures in 2009. My house was a total loss. They even stole the coffee table in my living room. Don't believe your insurance company when they tell you you only a video. I am glad I ordered most of my stuff online.

Took most of a year to finally get paid.
 

alkemyst

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Even then, that's about 60 years of insurance premiums to come out square for a $300K loss. If you live in a high risk area where the chances of a total loss are so much greater, doesn't it make even more sense to keep the coverage? Sure, you could cover it, but why would you; especially when you could have multiple catastrophic losses within the same 60 year period?

He said those that have millions (it's really probably billions in this scenario) can afford that risk.

Many mansions down here especially on the ocean and intercoastal cannot be insured with the regulars.

Dwelling loss also <> to property loss.
 

Red Squirrel

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I wish we had that option for cars. Car insurance tends to cost more than the car itself if you buy used, I hate paying car insurance based on that principle.

Home insurance on the other hand, I would never go without. I do everything I can to prevent a disaster like a food or fire, but shit happens. I don't have an extra couple thousand grand for the demolition/cleanup + rebuild. Then again, insurance will always find any excuse they can to not cover something so it's not guaranteed anyway.

This reminds me though, I probably should take pictures/video of all my stuff. At least it's something to show. Idealy you want receipts but that's not always possible especially for stuff you've designed/built yourself.
 
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imagoon

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I hate people with no car insurance with a passion. Mostly because they simply don't have the 300k sitting in a bond / mattress / box to cover when they nearly kill people.

If you want to walk away from your car, then get liability. That way when you run over some one they are covered and not stuck hoping the state will cover them.
 

the DRIZZLE

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A lot of the posters here don't seem to understand the math behind insurance or the concept of self insuring. There is nothing wrong with self insuring per se, as long as you can get some kind of liability coverage.
 
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Any form of insurance: drop.

However, of all the insurances homeowners is the hardest one to let go in my opinion. That's a tough bullet to bite if you get screwed through no fault of your own.
 

brianmanahan

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have you looked into a dwelling fire policy? they cover certain named perils (not just fire) and ONLY for the house, not the contents. it is usually used for rental properties, but you can also use it for your home, though its not generally recommended.
 

ponyo

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have you looked into a dwelling fire policy? they cover certain named perils (not just fire) and ONLY for the house, not the contents. it is usually used for rental properties, but you can also use it for your home, though its not generally recommended.

No. I need to shop around for a new policy. I've been with State Farm for over 20 years, and I think they're taking advantage of my loyalty. I'm paying ~$1,400 for $340k policy with $2.5k deductible. The houses in my neighborhood go for around $430k but that's market value. I know I can rebuild for cheaper than the market value especially since I own the land. I don't plan on moving or selling the house until I retire which is another 20-30 years off. It just seems like a waste to pay another 20-30 years when chance of me filing a major claim is almost nil.
 

Red Squirrel

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House insurance varies like crazy. I was originally paying 170/mo through a broker, I did not really realize that was high given it was my first time owning a house.

Later on for fun I got a quote through another company.... 35/mo! Promptly switched. Dealing directly with them, cut out the middle man.
 

brianmanahan

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No. I need to shop around for a new policy. I've been with State Farm for over 20 years, and I think they're taking advantage of my loyalty. I'm paying ~$1,400 for $340k policy with $2.5k deductible. The houses in my neighborhood go for around $430k but that's market value. I know I can rebuild for cheaper than the market value especially since I own the land. I don't plan on moving or selling the house until I retire which is another 20-30 years off. It just seems like a waste to pay another 20-30 years when chance of me filing a major claim is almost nil.

1400$ for 340$k coverage A is a decent price, for ho3 at least. maybe you can up your deductible?
 

spliffstar69

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dropped mine back in 07 was paying about $1200 said fuk insurance and insurance companies quick to deny a claim
 
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