Honest talk about Muslim extremism

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raildogg

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There is no honesty and there is no talk. When you wrap yourself up in any flag, you instantly lose any and all credibility. A lot of people are wrapped up in their petty little flags but don't show it. At least you show your extreme bias.
 

bradly1101

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Islamists hit civilians. We call it terrorism. They think that civilians are fair game since the Christian U.S. and its Christian allies have killed many more Muslim civilians. Punishing non-combatants seems to be a part of every war.

Strong men had a tenuous grip on civility in the Islamic world. The vacuum created by the Iraq war and the subsequent Arab Spring brought out a simmering fundamentalism and accentuated a rallying cry (against the 'infidels'). The U.S. has a hand in all this. When we intervene, things tend to go horribly wrong (see: Iran, Shah; Central America, 1980's; Viet Nam; Afghanistan...).

I wish economies were more local. Not only does global trade/involvement threaten native species (my main concern - forget the silly humans), it has a negative effect on jobs in some places and leads to geopolitical crises like what's happening now. I guess there's no going back though.
 
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MongGrel

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You could start dropping Neutron bombs anywhere ISIS etc is at, but that won't happen.

I'll be dead before I have to worry about this mess too much I imagine, so I won't worry about it.

Europe is being invaded obviously it appears a bit atm.

To be honest, I'm sure the extremists in Europe etc socialize a bit with the local "non-extremist" ones...

When you have chickenshit people in charge that can convince kids, women having kids, etc, indoctrinated to do suicide runs etc with bombs and the ranks keep growing, you really need to isolate it or get rid of it.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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raildogg

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You could start dropping Neutron bombs anywhere ISIS etc is at, but that won't happen.

I'll be dead before I have to worry about this mess too much I imagine, so I won't worry about it.

Europe is being invaded obviously it appears a bit atm.

To be honest, I'm sure the extremists in Europe etc socialize a bit with the local "non-extremist" ones...

No, you won't worry about it yet you will stir the pot a little. Europe is being invaded? Ok, let's take a look at it.

People from poorer countries trying to help themselves and their families go abroad to earn a living. Generally this is the pattern of immigration to Europe and elsewhere. Is that an invasion? People don't say "Let's invade France!" when deciding to move to France to improve their lives. Instead, they might say "Let's move to France and try to live an easier life." Leaving drama and emotions aside, there is no invasion. People are people - they are looking to make their lives a little better. They don't have time to plan invasions of Europe. They're just looking to eat and survive.

Look at America. I believe now in America, non-whites young children outnumber white young children in schools - I might be wrong though. Is that an invasion by the non-whites to take over America? Or is it that people abroad want to come to America because they seek an easier, better or more prosperous life? What is the primary motivation? Is it they want to invade the host country or they want to improve their life?
 

Robsasman

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Evidently there are canadians who have already read up on this and disagree with your view that the blasphemy law cannot be repealed. Any laws can change in any country.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-LB-50289


Not since 1935 has anyone been prosecuted under the Canadian law. In 1979, an Anglican clergyman tried to prosecute a movie theater chain for screening Monty Python’s “Life of Brian”, which satirized the story of Jesus Christ. But the case got dismissed because Canadian prosecutors refused to support the private action.

“As far as could be determined, this failed attempt to suppress Life of Brian was the last time Canada’s prohibition on blasphemous libel was invoked in the courtroom,” wrote Jeremy Patrick, a lecturer at the University of Southern Queensland School of Law, in a recent essay examining the history of blasphemy laws.

In America, which has strong constitutional protections of speech, there is no law against blasphemy. France has none either, but most countries in Western Europe still have versions of them on the books, including Ireland, which adopted a new one in 2009, according to Mr. Patrick. The U.K. abolished its blasphemy law in 2008.

Derek James-From, a lawyer for the Canadian Constitution Foundation in Calgary, told the National Post that the country’s law is dormant, but not dead. ““This is a constitutional question that has never been tested,” he wrote.

See you soon earl
 
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5150Joker

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You could start dropping Neutron bombs anywhere ISIS etc is at, but that won't happen.

I'll be dead before I have to worry about this mess too much I imagine, so I won't worry about it.

Europe is being invaded obviously it appears a bit atm.

To be honest, I'm sure the extremists in Europe etc socialize a bit with the local "non-extremist" ones...

When you have chickenshit people in charge that can convince kids, women having kids, etc, indoctrinated to do suicide runs etc with bombs and the ranks keep growing, you really need to isolate it or get rid of it.

Just my 2 cents.

Ah well, it's about time Europe got invaded after the shit they did to the rest of the world. Those brown people should keep pumping out kids. Muslims in Europe and Mexicans in the USA..M&M baby.
 

Robsasman

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Ah well, it's about time Europe got invaded after the shit they did to the rest of the world. Those brown people should keep pumping out kids. Muslims in Europe and Mexicans in the USA..M&M baby.

If anybody knows how to war it's Europe, they've been doing it for thousands of years. Remember what happened last time they wanted to kill off a religion.
 

Zebo

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The problem with liberals that's disabled them with talk of totalitarian islam (aka radical islam), and I am a liberal so I know them well, is they can't condemn subliminal identification of the Muslim religion with the black- and brown-skinned ppl they think subscribes to it. Nevermind the white chechens who leads the most brigades in ISIS having fought against first world armies like Russia and are bad to the bone. They are the oppressed based on ethnic identity thus beyond condemnation. It's no longer about philosophy ethics and humaitarism its that many think through lens of long term oppressed and oppressor which I happen to agree with and cant separate bad when they see it.

Then you have sticky problem of that violence needs another violent perp to continue violence. Like it needs a foe to antagonize one another. Sadly thats whats going on. The muajudeen needs America dropping $75,000 hellfire to gain more recrites. The US military industrial complex needs terrorist attacks.

I think they want us all to step away from battlefield. And condemnation does no good of trying to make peace.

JMO i could be wrong.
 
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5150Joker

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If anybody knows how to war it's Europe, they've been doing it for thousands of years. Remember what happened last time they wanted to kill off a religion.

Yeah nothing happened, the Crusades weren't a success unless you're referring to the Inquisition? And that was just Spain retaking their country. I'm glad you're admitting that White Christians are warmongers though.

Quite honestly though, I'd like it if Europe and the US took the steps to ban any form of religious worship and just created truly secular societies that focus on basic human rights and values--that's something many people would get behind irrespective of ethnicity/color. Religion is just one of many political tools that create war and division among people that would otherwise get along fine and has no place in societies that call themselves progressive and civilized. The Middle East's problems are of their own making and also because of external influences from the greedy West seeking to exploit their resources - Islam just became a tool for the corrupt thugs to use to sway the uneducated masses. The real enemy of Islam is ironically Saudi Arabia but everyone is too afraid to say that openly and do something about it because of their economic clout + Mecca being there.
 
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Zebo

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Ah well, it's about time Europe got invaded after the shit they did to the rest of the world. Those brown people should keep pumping out kids. Muslims in Europe and Mexicans in the USA..M&M baby.

The last thing u want is Europeans converting. Hitler Wished his citizens were Muslims and it will be end of the world as you know it behind Europeans armories.
 

DigDog

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"pro-muslim stand"

i'm really upset about the paris attacks, as is everyone else. but calling out israel for their massacre of palestinians is being pro-muslim...right.
 
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5150Joker

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The last thing u want is Europeans converting. Hitler Wished his citizens were Muslims and it will be end of the world as you know it behind Europeans armories.

I think like any other group the Muslims will eventually integrate into Europe and their progeny will be agnostic or atheists. I can't emphasize the word integrate enough and that means direct government intervention be it social programs, development and/or restrictions on certain religious leanings. For example, I don't think Sharia (even in it's mildest form) should be allowed anywhere in any country nor should its Jewish equivalent which in some cases is just as bad (e.g. NY, my ex-gf was Jewish and from there and told me horror stories). They'd also have to do a better job of monitoring who they let in and reduce the influx to control integration. The US needs a similar approach because whether or not they want to admit it, a lot of Mexican-Americans have failed to integrate and they have barrios all over California where first generation Mexicans can barely string together a coherent sentence in English.

With respect to Islam in particular, I've seen some really outspoken Mullahs from UK that say shit that I think should earn them automatic deportation. But then again, I also see racist right wing parties led by Whites that are just as bad so you've got two extremes that are the problem with the occasional Zionist wannabe like our OP stoking the fire. It's a multifaceted issue and it's very simplistic to just point the finger and blame a single group.
 
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cubby1223

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You meant to say -- I think like no other groups the Muslims will eventually assimilate Europe.

No, people have the right to have differing opinions than you. As long as the immigration is gradual, they should integrate over time. I personally have faith that the western way of life & governance is superior to the oppression in many middle-eastern countries. And over time immigrants will realize this and adopt the western ways into their personal lives.
 

Moonbeam

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Bigotry is everywhere, from religious to racists to anti-religion, etc. But among people everywhere there have always been those with better understanding. I think this link is to an idea of Islam many many Muslims share:

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.or...wahhabi-roots-and-current-representation.html

Islam has been infected with a disease, the notion that any jackass no matter how ignorant, can read and properly interpret the Koran to mean anything he wants it to mean. The average American Christian doesn't seem to have any real notion as to what Christianity is about either. We are always in danger when morons are persuaded to take themselves seriously.
 

shira

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Bigotry is everywhere, from religious to racists to anti-religion, etc. But among people everywhere there have always been those with better understanding. I think this link is to an idea of Islam many many Muslims share:

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.or...wahhabi-roots-and-current-representation.html

Islam has been infected with a disease, the notion that any jackass no matter how ignorant, can read and properly interpret the Koran to mean anything he wants it to mean. The average American Christian doesn't seem to have any real notion as to what Christianity is about either. We are always in danger when morons are persuaded to take themselves seriously.
I think there's an underlying problem - a giant flaw in the human mind - that affects much more than just religion. The huge flaw is the mistaken belief that the thought "This idea makes sense to me" is correlated with the idea being true.

This huge flaw is the underlying cause of religious zealotry, bigotry, and pretty much all self-righteous behavior. We often see this huge flaw manifest itself in what you refer to as "Conservative Brain Defect," but the flaw exists in liberal minds as well, though perhaps not as jarringly.
 

BoberFett

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I think there's an underlying problem - a giant flaw in the human mind - that affects much more than just religion. The huge flaw is the mistaken belief that the thought "This idea makes sense to me" is correlated with the idea being true.

This huge flaw is the underlying cause of religious zealotry, bigotry, and pretty much all self-righteous behavior. We often see this huge flaw manifest itself in what you refer to as "Conservative Brain Defect," but the flaw exists in liberal minds as well, though perhaps not as jarringly.

:thumbsup:
 

PlanetJosh

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I usually watch lib and conservative news on television but I'm taking a break from Fox News and OAN (One America News) until they settle down with bashing over the U.S. not sending a high profile VIP to the Paris march. They're implying the White House administration is appeasing the terrorists by not sending a high VIP like Kerry or Biden to the main march event. Ok that may be true but to have to hear complaining about it every 5 or 10 minutes gets old.

I should just ask here if either of those two news networks have let up a little on that. Maybe I'll take a peek at Fox News on Monday to see if they've toned it down. Same thing for their complaining about peaceful Muslim organizations not objecting enough against the Paris terrorist attack. A valid complaint yes, but sooner or later they'll have resume reporting a little bit more on things like U.S. congressional lawmaking concerning the economy, immigration, healthcare, etc.
 

IGBT

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holder and the obama are nothing more then apologists and social workers for islamic terrorists. Elections Have Consequences..
 

Blue_Max

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I think there's an underlying problem - a giant flaw in the human mind - that affects much more than just religion. The huge flaw is the mistaken belief that the thought "This idea makes sense to me" is correlated with the idea being true.

This huge flaw is the underlying cause of religious zealotry, bigotry, and pretty much all self-righteous behavior. We often see this huge flaw manifest itself in what you refer to as "Conservative Brain Defect," but the flaw exists in liberal minds as well, though perhaps not as jarringly.

This explains feminism too. Any of these groups think, "We're right!" Why? "Because we SAY so!" Repeat the dogma enough times, it becomes "truth" regardless of whether it is or not.

Challenge muslims, religious, or feminists (etc.) on this, they just get mad. Irrationally, far out-of-scale mad.
 

Ventanni

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Yeah nothing happened, the Crusades weren't a success unless you're referring to the Inquisition? And that was just Spain retaking their country. I'm glad you're admitting that White Christians are warmongers though.

Quite honestly though, I'd like it if Europe and the US took the steps to ban any form of religious worship and just created truly secular societies that focus on basic human rights and values--that's something many people would get behind irrespective of ethnicity/color. Religion is just one of many political tools that create war and division among people that would otherwise get along fine and has no place in societies that call themselves progressive and civilized. The Middle East's problems are of their own making and also because of external influences from the greedy West seeking to exploit their resources - Islam just became a tool for the corrupt thugs to use to sway the uneducated masses. The real enemy of Islam is ironically Saudi Arabia but everyone is too afraid to say that openly and do something about it because of their economic clout + Mecca being there.

No you don't.

Despite being a devout Christian, I don't say this in an, "I'm right yer wrong, and I'm not going to listen to anything you say," sort of way, but hear me out. Christianity forms a backbone for moral behavior in this country. Christianity teaches love, patience, respect, personal accountability, tolerance, servitude, caring for others, giving, forgiveness; lots and lots of good things. When you see Christians not practicing this, well, it happens. It doesn't excuse the behavior, but whether we like it or not, Christian values overall bring a lot of good to those who believe and to those that don't.

The ultimate question you as both a believer or a non-believer have to ask is do you want God dictating what is good and what is right, or do you want man doing that? If you're quick to answer with "Man", then ask yourself just where those basic human rights and values that you're wanting to incorporate into this secular society come from, or why they're emphasized so heavily in most Western societies.

The problem with most secular/atheistic societies is that, unfortunately, there just isn't any moral code to live by, and what is good and what is pure is dictated by whoever is in charge. If I ban the Bible, then what template am I to reference and teach my children to be a decent human being? Even those who deny God will agree that the Bible provides an excellent template for teaching us what is right and wrong.

So that's why I reply with, "No you don't," in this case. If I remove Christianity from the American equation, I'm left with a system that treats individuals with ill regard to your overall worth. That means in a secular/atheistic society, you have no worth! And we've seen this, and still presently see this, in societies that rigorously attempt to stamp out all religion. North Korea? China? India has religion, but not one that takes a very strong stance on the value of human life. The Soviet Union tried to stamp out religion, and look how successful that was.

So where does that leave Islam? Unfortunately for Islam, the religion is presently unstable because the Middle East is politically unstable. At the end of the day, people are just people. James said it best when he penned James 4:1-3, "1What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you? 2You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them. Yet you don’t have what you want because you don’t ask God for it. 3And even when you ask, you don’t get it because your motives are all wrong—you want only what will give you pleasure." The Pope recently stated that he felt the Middle East was going through a segmented world war. I disagree. I think the Middle East is experiencing what Christianity experience 400 years ago, and that's their equivalent to our 30 Years War.

Muslims want peace, and rightfully so. They want justice, and seek to find it. Unfortunately they're doing so in the entirely wrong way, and that's by extorting, torturing, and slaughtering each other. And it will never end until the Muslim world recognizes the horrendous sin they're committing against one other and take a stand to say, "No more." This is the lesson Christianity had to learn 400 years ago, and that's what Muslims are experiencing today.

That's one of the main reasons we have separation of church and state in this country, and for good reason. And unfortunately it's just one of those things that Islamic countries are going to have to learn on their own the hard way.
 

Jaskalas

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Honest talk about Muslim extremism

I'll give you some honest talk about Muslim extremism.

Those leaders walking the street in Paris? That was symbolism for us to toe the line. To maintain the status quo where Islamic Terrorism flourishes. Where it grows and festers right under our nose and it's sanctioned to continue. Where efforts to combat or push it out are demonized as Islamophobia.

Efforts against it are a disgrace so long as we intend to ignore the root of the problem. That it should be Muslims fighting Islamic Terrorism, not us. That we should be dragging them front and center in the public attention for what they are going to do about it.

No... let's go halfway across the planet and drop a few bombs on Syria or Pakistan. So we can tuck our kids into bed at night and pretend we did something. All the while they'll get blown or shot up years from now... because we lied, and we let our leaders lie on our behalf.

Ignoring it is the whole damn problem, and all they do is commit to doing just that.
 

shira

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No you don't.

Despite being a devout Christian, I don't say this in an, "I'm right yer wrong, and I'm not going to listen to anything you say," sort of way, but hear me out. Christianity forms a backbone for moral behavior in this country. Christianity teaches love, patience, respect, personal accountability, tolerance, servitude, caring for others, giving, forgiveness; lots and lots of good things. When you see Christians not practicing this, well, it happens. It doesn't excuse the behavior, but whether we like it or not, Christian values overall bring a lot of good to those who believe and to those that don't.

The ultimate question you as both a believer or a non-believer have to ask is do you want God dictating what is good and what is right, or do you want man doing that? If you're quick to answer with "Man", then ask yourself just where those basic human rights and values that you're wanting to incorporate into this secular society come from, or why they're emphasized so heavily in most Western societies.

The problem with most secular/atheistic societies is that, unfortunately, there just isn't any moral code to live by, and what is good and what is pure is dictated by whoever is in charge. If I ban the Bible, then what template am I to reference and teach my children to be a decent human being? Even those who deny God will agree that the Bible provides an excellent template for teaching us what is right and wrong.

So that's why I reply with, "No you don't," in this case. If I remove Christianity from the American equation, I'm left with a system that treats individuals with ill regard to your overall worth. That means in a secular/atheistic society, you have no worth! And we've seen this, and still presently see this, in societies that rigorously attempt to stamp out all religion. North Korea? China? India has religion, but not one that takes a very strong stance on the value of human life. The Soviet Union tried to stamp out religion, and look how successful that was.


So where does that leave Islam? Unfortunately for Islam, the religion is presently unstable because the Middle East is politically unstable. At the end of the day, people are just people. James said it best when he penned James 4:1-3, "1What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you? 2You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them. Yet you don’t have what you want because you don’t ask God for it. 3And even when you ask, you don’t get it because your motives are all wrong—you want only what will give you pleasure." The Pope recently stated that he felt the Middle East was going through a segmented world war. I disagree. I think the Middle East is experiencing what Christianity experience 400 years ago, and that's their equivalent to our 30 Years War.

Muslims want peace, and rightfully so. They want justice, and seek to find it. Unfortunately they're doing so in the entirely wrong way, and that's by extorting, torturing, and slaughtering each other. And it will never end until the Muslim world recognizes the horrendous sin they're committing against one other and take a stand to say, "No more." This is the lesson Christianity had to learn 400 years ago, and that's what Muslims are experiencing today.

That's one of the main reasons we have separation of church and state in this country, and for good reason. And unfortunately it's just one of those things that Islamic countries are going to have to learn on their own the hard way.
People treating people badly is NOT a function of whether or not they belong to a religion. Values and morality come from people, not from religions, as religions were and are created by people.

Even the assumption that religious values come from God is irrelevant, as people construe the language of their holy books however their irrational minds dictate. So whether or not the rule "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" was actually defined by God doesn't prevent people from interpreting that to mean that "school" is a "God" put before the real God where girls are concerned, and that therefore it's permissible to kill girls who attend school.

Good people do good and bad people do bad. It's as simple as that.
 

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No you don't.

Despite being a devout Christian, I don't say this in an, "I'm right yer wrong, and I'm not going to listen to anything you say," sort of way, but hear me out. Christianity forms a backbone for moral behavior in this country. Christianity teaches love, patience, respect, personal accountability, tolerance, servitude, caring for others, giving, forgiveness; lots and lots of good things. When you see Christians not practicing this, well, it happens. It doesn't excuse the behavior, but whether we like it or not, Christian values overall bring a lot of good to those who believe and to those that don't.

The ultimate question you as both a believer or a non-believer have to ask is do you want God dictating what is good and what is right, or do you want man doing that? If you're quick to answer with "Man", then ask yourself just where those basic human rights and values that you're wanting to incorporate into this secular society come from, or why they're emphasized so heavily in most Western societies.

The problem with most secular/atheistic societies is that, unfortunately, there just isn't any moral code to live by, and what is good and what is pure is dictated by whoever is in charge. If I ban the Bible, then what template am I to reference and teach my children to be a decent human being? Even those who deny God will agree that the Bible provides an excellent template for teaching us what is right and wrong.

So that's why I reply with, "No you don't," in this case. If I remove Christianity from the American equation, I'm left with a system that treats individuals with ill regard to your overall worth. That means in a secular/atheistic society, you have no worth! And we've seen this, and still presently see this, in societies that rigorously attempt to stamp out all religion. North Korea? China? India has religion, but not one that takes a very strong stance on the value of human life. The Soviet Union tried to stamp out religion, and look how successful that was.

So where does that leave Islam? Unfortunately for Islam, the religion is presently unstable because the Middle East is politically unstable. At the end of the day, people are just people. James said it best when he penned James 4:1-3, "1What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you? 2You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them. Yet you don’t have what you want because you don’t ask God for it. 3And even when you ask, you don’t get it because your motives are all wrong—you want only what will give you pleasure." The Pope recently stated that he felt the Middle East was going through a segmented world war. I disagree. I think the Middle East is experiencing what Christianity experience 400 years ago, and that's their equivalent to our 30 Years War.

Muslims want peace, and rightfully so. They want justice, and seek to find it. Unfortunately they're doing so in the entirely wrong way, and that's by extorting, torturing, and slaughtering each other. And it will never end until the Muslim world recognizes the horrendous sin they're committing against one other and take a stand to say, "No more." This is the lesson Christianity had to learn 400 years ago, and that's what Muslims are experiencing today.

That's one of the main reasons we have separation of church and state in this country, and for good reason. And unfortunately it's just one of those things that Islamic countries are going to have to learn on their own the hard way.


The fallacy of your argument is that morality is predicated upon the presence of religion and that isn't true. Morality pre-dates Christianity, Judaism and Islam. While Western and Mid Eastern society was supplemented by the Abrahamic moral belief system, it definitely was not the basis of it. The rule of law and basic human rights and moral values can be implemented easily without ascribing their concept to some fairytale deity in the sky. I'm part of a rapidly growing trend in the US - a generation of people that don't subscribe to any religion and are largely agnostic, atheist or unaffiliated with any religion. Yet those of us that are agnostic/atheist still understand the value of human life and basic rights without the need of organized religion.

http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/calling_the_christian_right_soon_you_will_be_outnumbered_partner/

If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent. To put that into perspective, today roughly 1 percent of the population is Muslim.

The fastest growing religious faith in the United States is the group collectively labeled “Nones,” who spurn organized religion in favor of non-defined skepticism about faith.
 
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