HOT?! 160gb Seagate SATA $69

[marcplante]

looks like a solid deal. Any good/bad experiences with the Seagate SATA drives?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=168265

MarcPlante

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: marcplante
looks like a solid deal. Any good/bad experiences with the Seagate SATA drives?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=168265

MarcPlante

link to a Western Digital

Mfg. Part No. WD1600JDRTL

????

 

[BrokenVisage]

WTFHI?

 

[usernamemax20charact]

Maybe marcplante meant this one?

 

[BoKingWen]

Originally posted by: marcplante
looks like a solid deal. Any good/bad experiences with the Seagate SATA drives?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=168265

MarcPlante

I have 2 Seagate 120G SATA drive one of it crap out on me after a few months and Seagate send me a replacement after a week. I know a lot of people like the 5 year warranty but keep in mind the replacement Seagate send out is not a "Brand new" drive. I think the rep told me that the replacement drive is a refrushish from them. I don't know what they mean by refrushbrish but the frist replacement they send is a DOA lucky they overnight another replacement to me.

 

[usernamemax20charact]

Yeah, I don't know what refrushish or refrushbrish means either. I'd be wary if Seagate sent me one of those too.

 

[andy nowotny]

its great, thanks

 

[FP]

lol

 

[nekote]

Don't want to start a flame war.
Just don't understand why SATA is so great.
Performance is unchanged, from IDE / EIDE, AFAIK.

Just a lovelier, smaller connector footprint / sleeker cable suitable for short external reaches?

Why didn't they go for some umpty ump Gb / sec optical fiber deal that could have bought some real distance / length possibility?

Am I missing something, here?
Please be kind / gentle.
I'd like to know, aside from saving some valuable motherboard real estate with small connectors, what's the big deal with SATA (versus PATA)?

FWIW, from my experience, increased RPM really *does* make a noticeable difference:
3600, 4200, 5400, 7200, 10K, 15K OR CD / DVD increasing from 1X to nnX

 

[Mac]

Don't want to start a flame war. Just don't understand why SATA is so great.
Performance is unchanged, from IDE / EIDE, AFAIK.

It really depends upon the environment and intended use. Most signficant benefit is the possible elimination of I/O contention by separating data transfers from the PCI bus (this assumes one of the newer chipset designs) which PATA IDE drives share. This should be noticeable on tasks such DVD mastering/burning.

The heralded bandwidth increase of SATA over PATA is overhyped. Yes, the initial burst speed for small data transfers is somewhat improved for SATA but this presumes that the data you want is present in the hard drive buffer. Once the buffer has been drained, the bottle neck is the same for either SATA or PATA: a combination of disk head latency, data areal density and RPM. In other words, the theoretical bandwidth of even a lowly 100MBs PATA drive is under utilized because the drive cannot physically read or write data fast enough either due to the slowness of the disk head assembly or the inability to pass the media fast enough under the heads. That is why RAID 0 and RAID 5 offer real performance improvements but even then,only if the system is transferring large amounts of data.

 

[WDEagle]

nekote,

On my main computer I have the following IDE/EIDE devices

CD-RW
CD-RW
DVD-RW
ZIP drive

I also have the following SATA devices (running Raid)

80 GB HDD
80 GB HDD

I have 2 more SATA connectors for future HDDs/SATA CD-RW/etc.

That's my main reason (i.e. additional device connections, not speed)

WDEagle

 

[gshock888]

get a raptor.

 

[rivethead]

I think this is a very hot deal. I was planning on buying an 80GB Seagate Barracuda SATA this weekend. Cheapest I could find was $69 at ChiefValue.

But for $5 more (shipping from Fry's) I can double the size. GREAT deal.

Now...I just gotta decide if I really NEED another 80 GB.

 

[GMElias]

nice
-Elias

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: usernamemax20charact
Maybe marcplante meant this one?

Oooooooooooooo, this one is NCQ. For some reason, I don't think the Microcenter one is. Anyone know for sure?

Also, remember, tomorrow you can price match this plus 5% off @ CrapUSA.

 

[nekote]

TY

 

[Karaktu]

Originally posted by: gshock888
get a raptor.

...And some noise!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Actually, striping SATA drives helps in certain application that can take advantage of higher bandwidth > 100MBs, ie. video editing

 

[Woody419]

Originally posted by: nekote
Don't want to start a flame war.
Just don't understand why SATA is so great.

Yea, its not that great...yet. But if you are building a new system these days you are pretty much trapped into getting an SATA drive, you run out of IDE plugs real quick. The hd and mb manufacturers seem to coordinate pretty well, at least SATA drive prices are finally coming down.

 

[Sept1967]

You are correct,
7200rpm=7200rpm

But this Seagate, has "Native Command Queuing" which gets your ducks in a row, to spit out the data a bit faster then a standard SATA drive (which is a PATA drive with a simple interface adaptor change).

10k, 14k and technology like "Native Command Queuing" will end up making SATA a faster choice.

Originally posted by: nekote
Don't want to start a flame war.
Just don't understand why SATA is so great.
Performance is unchanged, from IDE / EIDE, AFAIK.

Just a lovelier, smaller connector footprint / sleeker cable suitable for short external reaches?

Why didn't they go for some umpty ump Gb / sec optical fiber deal that could have bought some real distance / length possibility?

Am I missing something, here?
Please be kind / gentle.
I'd like to know, aside from saving some valuable motherboard real estate with small connectors, what's the big deal with SATA (versus PATA)?

FWIW, from my experience, increased RPM really *does* make a noticeable difference:
3600, 4200, 5400, 7200, 10K, 15K OR CD / DVD increasing from 1X to nnX

 

[happyshopping007]

nice.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Sept1967
You are correct,
7200rpm=7200rpm

But this Seagate, has "Native Command Queuing" which gets your ducks in a row, to spit out the data a bit faster then a standard SATA drive (which is a PATA drive with a simple interface adaptor change).

10k, 14k and technology like "Native Command Queuing" will end up making SATA a faster choice.

Originally posted by: nekote
Don't want to start a flame war.
Just don't understand why SATA is so great.
Performance is unchanged, from IDE / EIDE, AFAIK.

Just a lovelier, smaller connector footprint / sleeker cable suitable for short external reaches?

Why didn't they go for some umpty ump Gb / sec optical fiber deal that could have bought some real distance / length possibility?

Am I missing something, here?
Please be kind / gentle.
I'd like to know, aside from saving some valuable motherboard real estate with small connectors, what's the big deal with SATA (versus PATA)?

FWIW, from my experience, increased RPM really *does* make a noticeable difference:
3600, 4200, 5400, 7200, 10K, 15K OR CD / DVD increasing from 1X to nnX

If it's strictly a funtion of the HD, I'm in on this deal. If it takes the right chipset, then I may have to wait for a cheaper IDE deal. Just in case anybody knows, I have 2 mobo.s with serial connectors, an Abit IT7 Max2 Ver2 and an Asus A7N8X E Deluxe. Doesn anybody know off the top of their head if one of those mobo's have NCQ?

 

[dealseaker]

Originally posted by: WDEagle
nekote,

On my main computer I have the following IDE/EIDE devices

CD-RW
CD-RW
DVD-RW
ZIP drive

I also have the following SATA devices (running Raid)

80 GB HDD
80 GB HDD

I have 2 more SATA connectors for future HDDs/SATA CD-RW/etc.

That's my main reason (i.e. additional device connections, not speed)

WDEagle

get a pci card for $10 - $20 from the fs/t forums, that will give you 4 more connectors

 

[bchivers]

How do I know if my mbo supports "Native Command Queuing"?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bchivers
How do I know if my mbo supports "Native Command Queuing"?

After a little searching I don't think any but the newest mobo's support that