HOT! 9.99 300W sub! (refurb). FREE 1yr warranty!

[frugal]

there are plenty of kits available that allow end-users to re-foam their speakers

Do you know a good place to get replacement foam pieces?


Would be nice to win returnbuy's grand prize, all this loot -

Video Equipment
One Widescreen TV (42"+) Three Sony Trinitron 20" TVs
Three GoVideo DVD/VCR Players One GoVideo VCR
One Sony 5-Disc DVD Player
One Microsoft XBOX Game System NBA Live 2003 for XBOX
Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets for XBOX Tiger Woods PGA 2003 for XBOX
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Computing
Sony VAIO Laptop HP Pavilion Desktop PC
NETGEAR Wireless Access Point NETGEAR Wireless Network Card
15" Flat Panel Desktop Monitor
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Digital Imaging
Olympus Camedia E-10 4MP Camera Olympus Camedia D-380 Camera
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PDAs
Palm i705 8MB Internet/E-mail PDA Palm m125 with 16MB SD Card
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Audio Equipment
Philips 3-CD Micro System Sony Psyc CD/Tape/Radio
RioVolt Portable MP3/CD Player


schweeeeet!

They also sell their stuff on ebay using seller names like returnbuy, brandnewbuy, and realcrazymo. I bought a govideo dual deck dvd/vcr in virtually new condition for only $55, but it's now up to $130. Their prices change constantly so ya gotta keep checking. And make sure you read the description really closely - even though they list several items that are the same, the stuff varies in quality and which parts are included. Their realcrazymo seller has stuff that they say they can't check or guarantee that it works - as is - it's a crapshoot whether you get something that actually works, but if you're lucky you'll get something that works for cheap.

 

[FiLeZz]

I am building a home theatre room


I have four 18" subs jbl pro's flat to 20hz

I will use only eight 12" subs for a high bass of 40hz to 100hz the other four 8" subs will be for back up for when I blow subs..

will have a 800 watt amp on the 12's and a 1200 watt amp on the 18's

pictures to follow

 

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: frugal

there are plenty of kits available that allow end-users to re-foam their speakers

Do you know a good place to get replacement foam pieces?

this place has them... I did some looking around about a year ago. I haven't ever ordered from them, or any other speaker-repair place for that matter... but this place looked to be the best out of what I could find.

 

[tigerbait]

I just got my stuff. I'm impressed with what I got. One of the subs I got was definitely brand new. The box was perfect, the sub was sealed in plastic and had a plastic cover on it. It had that "new smell." The other sub was opened, but in great condition. The amp I got looks great...no scratches, and all the accessories are there including the manual. Haven't installed anything or listened yet, but looks promising so far with the price I paid.

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I am building a home theatre room


I have four 18" subs jbl pro's flat to 20hz

I will use only eight 12" subs for a high bass of 40hz to 100hz the other four 8" subs will be for back up for when I blow subs..

will have a 800 watt amp on the 12's and a 1200 watt amp on the 18's

pictures to follow

Hmm...I wanna go watch a DTS ES movie at your place =P
Hmm what's a good DTS ES movie...something with lots of explosions and shooting just to show off the insane bass =P

 

[Johnbear007]

Ok I have a couple questions here

1. I see that the power ratings for the EL 1500 show as 500 on the bazooka website but 350 in the returns website

2. how many subs can one el 1500 power?

3. Where can I get a good/cheap installation kit? everything at bestbuy is like 80$ ?

thanks a bunch

 

[mikeford]

If you have a REALLY killer AV system with huge bass nothing beats helicopters as demo material, spooky unreal low freq stuff going on.

Bazooka amps have different power ratings depending on the load, 4 ohm vs 2 ohm etc., and also have a different rating in mono vs stereo modes (el1500 is just mono). A good safe answer is that it can power between 1 and 4 subwoofers depending on how you wire them up and what your spl goals are. From the ReturnBuy site "Bazooka offers real world solutions to your car audio needs with the EL1500, a 350-watt, fire-breathing mono amplifier. It has an impressive array of built-in features. Hook up two 4-ohm subs in parallel, and the EL1500 pumps out a righteous 500 watts at 2 ohms!"

Now the whole business of having bass so loud you need a remote control to measure it from outside the car kind of escapes me. I mean what is it, a contest to make your local car stereo store rich?

All the big chains seem to seriously be into screwing people on the wiring harnesses, but some smaller places aren't so bad. I've seen a few on Eba y . but ended up just paying my money at CC when I bought last CD for my car. I haven't decided what I am going to do adding this subwoofer, other than not donating a wad of cash to CC.

 

[DorkBoy]

thanks

 

[aphex]

Id really like to hear some reviews on these speakers/amps...

I purchased 2 subs but shipped them home to the states, so i wont be seeing them for another month. Im contemplating getting the EL1500, but would like to hear some opinions. Is it worth it?

 

[mikeford]

Very clearly this stuff is still a HOT DEAL, not quite as hot as last week, but hot and not likely to be duplicated any time soon.

BUT

Bazooka is a mid range line, ie not the cheapo discount chain stuff, but solid joe sixpack, Chevy, Ford, part of the pack. Car stereo snobs will not be impressed, but normal people will be amazed. Places like Crutchfield make these prices seem super duper, looking more on the net its merely HOT. For example the CSW1004 is now $12.95 and brand new on the net I have now found it for like $49. Hopefully this means that Bazooka knows how to make a very good value sub, and all indications are that this is true.

Generally car audio is a land of huge profit margins, lots of hype and lies, and more junk product than is easy to imagine. I am looking at the local PennySaver and the first three pages are car stereo with wild deals, and on each page in tiny print at the bottom, Free installion only on non sale units, all advertised units require installation at nominal charge. These guys make used car salesmen seem refreshing and honest.

I was at one local place the other day, and the dude made it sound like anything less than like 500 watts in a sub was in some fashion distastefull for them to deal with. Yeah they could install my Bazooka amp etc., but would be wearing gloves or something and dead certain I would be back in a couple days requiring more power etc. The thing is I have been messing and putting VERY nice sound systems in my cars for the last 30 years and I know it doesn't freaking take a huge amount of money to get very good sound. The exception I see to that is if you want a REALLY clean factory install, then parts and labor related to the install (not the speakers and amps, but brackets and boxes) can top a grand pretty fast.

Sigh, I think I am talking myself into spending more money, ie maybe new front speakers with associated amp. Good sound in the car is REAL easy to get used to.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: mikeford
Very clearly this stuff is still a HOT DEAL, not quite as hot as last week, but hot and not likely to be duplicated any time soon.

BUT

Bazooka is a mid range line, ie not the cheapo discount chain stuff, but solid joe sixpack, Chevy, Ford, part of the pack. Car stereo snobs will not be impressed, but normal people will be amazed. Places like Crutchfield make these prices seem super duper, looking more on the net its merely HOT. For example the CSW1004 is now $12.95 and brand new on the net I have now found it for like $49. Hopefully this means that Bazooka knows how to make a very good value sub, and all indications are that this is true.

Generally car audio is a land of huge profit margins, lots of hype and lies, and more junk product than is easy to imagine. I am looking at the local PennySaver and the first three pages are car stereo with wild deals, and on each page in tiny print at the bottom, Free installion only on non sale units, all advertised units require installation at nominal charge. These guys make used car salesmen seem refreshing and honest.

I was at one local place the other day, and the dude made it sound like anything less than like 500 watts in a sub was in some fashion distastefull for them to deal with. Yeah they could install my Bazooka amp etc., but would be wearing gloves or something and dead certain I would be back in a couple days requiring more power etc. The thing is I have been messing and putting VERY nice sound systems in my cars for the last 30 years and I know it doesn't freaking take a huge amount of money to get very good sound. The exception I see to that is if you want a REALLY clean factory install, then parts and labor related to the install (not the speakers and amps, but brackets and boxes) can top a grand pretty fast.

Sigh, I think I am talking myself into spending more money, ie maybe new front speakers with associated amp. Good sound in the car is REAL easy to get used to.

Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

 

[Arfboy]

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: mikeford
Very clearly this stuff is still a HOT DEAL, not quite as hot as last week, but hot and not likely to be duplicated any time soon.

BUT

Bazooka is a mid range line, ie not the cheapo discount chain stuff, but solid joe sixpack, Chevy, Ford, part of the pack. Car stereo snobs will not be impressed, but normal people will be amazed. Places like Crutchfield make these prices seem super duper, looking more on the net its merely HOT. For example the CSW1004 is now $12.95 and brand new on the net I have now found it for like $49. Hopefully this means that Bazooka knows how to make a very good value sub, and all indications are that this is true.

Generally car audio is a land of huge profit margins, lots of hype and lies, and more junk product than is easy to imagine. I am looking at the local PennySaver and the first three pages are car stereo with wild deals, and on each page in tiny print at the bottom, Free installion only on non sale units, all advertised units require installation at nominal charge. These guys make used car salesmen seem refreshing and honest.

I was at one local place the other day, and the dude made it sound like anything less than like 500 watts in a sub was in some fashion distastefull for them to deal with. Yeah they could install my Bazooka amp etc., but would be wearing gloves or something and dead certain I would be back in a couple days requiring more power etc. The thing is I have been messing and putting VERY nice sound systems in my cars for the last 30 years and I know it doesn't freaking take a huge amount of money to get very good sound. The exception I see to that is if you want a REALLY clean factory install, then parts and labor related to the install (not the speakers and amps, but brackets and boxes) can top a grand pretty fast.

Sigh, I think I am talking myself into spending more money, ie maybe new front speakers with associated amp. Good sound in the car is REAL easy to get used to.

Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

It's "possible" to get good bass working with your stock head unit, but if you intend on doing anything in the future and would like more flexibility, an aftermarket head unit is the way to go - that is, if you don't want some ghetto bumper system. The key to car audio is to start from the front and work your way back for true music. Getting a good aftermarket head unit with a high S/N ratio and pre-amp out voltages gives your speakers/amp a cleaner signal to reproduce/amplify and is probably the single best upgrade you can make to your sound system.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Arfboy

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: mikeford
Very clearly this stuff is still a HOT DEAL, not quite as hot as last week, but hot and not likely to be duplicated any time soon.

BUT

Bazooka is a mid range line, ie not the cheapo discount chain stuff, but solid joe sixpack, Chevy, Ford, part of the pack. Car stereo snobs will not be impressed, but normal people will be amazed. Places like Crutchfield make these prices seem super duper, looking more on the net its merely HOT. For example the CSW1004 is now $12.95 and brand new on the net I have now found it for like $49. Hopefully this means that Bazooka knows how to make a very good value sub, and all indications are that this is true.

Generally car audio is a land of huge profit margins, lots of hype and lies, and more junk product than is easy to imagine. I am looking at the local PennySaver and the first three pages are car stereo with wild deals, and on each page in tiny print at the bottom, Free installion only on non sale units, all advertised units require installation at nominal charge. These guys make used car salesmen seem refreshing and honest.

I was at one local place the other day, and the dude made it sound like anything less than like 500 watts in a sub was in some fashion distastefull for them to deal with. Yeah they could install my Bazooka amp etc., but would be wearing gloves or something and dead certain I would be back in a couple days requiring more power etc. The thing is I have been messing and putting VERY nice sound systems in my cars for the last 30 years and I know it doesn't freaking take a huge amount of money to get very good sound. The exception I see to that is if you want a REALLY clean factory install, then parts and labor related to the install (not the speakers and amps, but brackets and boxes) can top a grand pretty fast.

Sigh, I think I am talking myself into spending more money, ie maybe new front speakers with associated amp. Good sound in the car is REAL easy to get used to.

Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

It's "possible" to get good bass working with your stock head unit, but if you intend on doing anything in the future and would like more flexibility, an aftermarket head unit is the way to go - that is, if you don't want some ghetto bumper system. The key to car audio is to start from the front and work your way back for true music. Getting a good aftermarket head unit with a high S/N ratio and pre-amp out voltages gives your speakers/amp a cleaner signal to reproduce/amplify and is probably the single best upgrade you can make to your sound system.

Getting an aftermarket headunit is not a viable option for me. My car is leased.

 

[mikeford]

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: Arfboy

Originally posted by: aphexII


Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

It's "possible" to get good bass working with your stock head unit, but if you intend on doing anything in the future and would like more flexibility, an aftermarket head unit is the way to go - that is, if you don't want some ghetto bumper system. The key to car audio is to start from the front and work your way back for true music. Getting a good aftermarket head unit with a high S/N ratio and pre-amp out voltages gives your speakers/amp a cleaner signal to reproduce/amplify and is probably the single best upgrade you can make to your sound system.

Getting an aftermarket headunit is not a viable option for me. My car is leased.

I put different head units in all my leased cars, heck I MADE the lease pay for installs on a couple of them. I would check with the lease company and see if it isn't OK to "upgrade" the factory radio. Also it isn't insanely hard to just put the factory radio back in, with a reasonable install of a new unit. The MP3 player I just had CC install used "smart" wiring harnesses that plug right into the factory setup.

Sounds to me like the first install was a F U, I mean how do you install a working sub and not be able to hear it? MTX isn't my favorite, but 2x12 should be a pounding system.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: mikeford

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: Arfboy

Originally posted by: aphexII


Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

It's "possible" to get good bass working with your stock head unit, but if you intend on doing anything in the future and would like more flexibility, an aftermarket head unit is the way to go - that is, if you don't want some ghetto bumper system. The key to car audio is to start from the front and work your way back for true music. Getting a good aftermarket head unit with a high S/N ratio and pre-amp out voltages gives your speakers/amp a cleaner signal to reproduce/amplify and is probably the single best upgrade you can make to your sound system.

Getting an aftermarket headunit is not a viable option for me. My car is leased.

I put different head units in all my leased cars, heck I MADE the lease pay for installs on a couple of them. I would check with the lease company and see if it isn't OK to "upgrade" the factory radio. Also it isn't insanely hard to just put the factory radio back in, with a reasonable install of a new unit. The MP3 player I just had CC install used "smart" wiring harnesses that plug right into the factory setup.

Sounds to me like the first install was a F U, I mean how do you install a working sub and not be able to hear it? MTX isn't my favorite, but 2x12 should be a pounding system.

I couldnt even tell it was on. Do you think i can make it pound with the factory radio though?

 

[scorp00]

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: mikeford

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: Arfboy

Originally posted by: aphexII


Do ya know if its possible to get a decent sounding sub using the factory radio (w/o preamp outs) and whatnot. I used to have a VW Jetta that i added a MTX amp and 2 MTX 12's in a sealed box (Installed Free by CC). I honestly couldnt even hear the thing from inside my car, it was THAT weak. I ended up going back and returning everything. My new car is a VW Passat with the 8 channel monsoon system pre-installed. I wanted to leave the monsoon intact, and just grab a line from one of the rear speakers (like done in the jetta), but will it sound sh!tty again?

It's "possible" to get good bass working with your stock head unit, but if you intend on doing anything in the future and would like more flexibility, an aftermarket head unit is the way to go - that is, if you don't want some ghetto bumper system. The key to car audio is to start from the front and work your way back for true music. Getting a good aftermarket head unit with a high S/N ratio and pre-amp out voltages gives your speakers/amp a cleaner signal to reproduce/amplify and is probably the single best upgrade you can make to your sound system.

Getting an aftermarket headunit is not a viable option for me. My car is leased.

I put different head units in all my leased cars, heck I MADE the lease pay for installs on a couple of them. I would check with the lease company and see if it isn't OK to "upgrade" the factory radio. Also it isn't insanely hard to just put the factory radio back in, with a reasonable install of a new unit. The MP3 player I just had CC install used "smart" wiring harnesses that plug right into the factory setup.

Sounds to me like the first install was a F U, I mean how do you install a working sub and not be able to hear it? MTX isn't my favorite, but 2x12 should be a pounding system.

I couldnt even tell it was on. Do you think i can make it pound with the factory radio though?

I had 2 mtx 12" 7000's and they made my ears ring. Even if you had the 3000/4000 series, it should still sound decent. Something was wrong with your install. High pass filter enabled on the subs maybe?

You can also get good bass on your factory head unit, just get an adapter that converts the speaker outs to rca's and run it to an amp. But i'd install an aftermarket cd player, when you put the factory one back in you can't even tell that you put an aftermarket one in. The sound quality on an aftermarket cd player is worlds different from the stock one.

 

[DMage]

I got my sub and amp in today from returnbuy. Both were in EXCELLENT condition, and were previously opened, but included everything and had no scratches on them (even though returnbuy said the amp did). Gonna install soon hope everything goes good. Definitely a hot deal.

 

[Silex]

Damnt his thread is long! My 5 12's and 1500 amp are still somewhere in IL, LOL. Anywho, expected date of arrival is sometime ont he 26th supposedly even though I wish it was sooner. Will fill you guys in once I receive them.

Oh yeah and this question has been addressed numerous times, but I too was wondering if the 1500 or the 2150 was the better amp or merely what's the difference between the two?

 

[FiLeZz]

All 16 speakers have made it here... Now I build a box tomorrow.. Sweet.. This wall of speakers might just bring the house down..

 

[FreNte]

The 1500 is a mono amp, meaning one speaker hook-up. The 2150 is a 2 channel meaning 2 speakers can be hooked up.

THESE SUBS ARE MADE FOR CAR AUDIO, BEWARE OF BLOWING YOUR HOME AUDIO SYSTEM!!

These subs don't seem to be that great. What matters in audio equipment is the rms which is the power it will normally be achieving.
The max wattage is not as important. This sub runs at 150 RMS 300 max.

I doubt these will be very clear or hit well. A refurbed sub? eh. if it's got great sound why would they refurb.
I would never buy a refurbed audio item. I think you all got sucked into something, lol.

Hope it works out for you. You also have to buy wiring for this and if your head unit does not have pre amp outs you will either have to buy a new head unit or get a line convertor for 15 to 30 bucks. You also need the power and rca wiring which could cost 40 bucks for a good kind. And if you do not know how to install it, another 50 for installation.
And 40-70 for a single box. 70-100 for a dual box.
Plus you will lose some valuable trunk space in a smaller vehicle.

I don't think some of you guys knew all that was involved. If you need help with wiring, let me know leave a post here and ill start a thread in the proper forum. good luck fellas.

 

[FreNte]

One last thing, the most important thing is to get the best wiring.

For the best sound in any audio upgrade is the wiring and how everything is wired.
If you get engine noise or high pitched sounds out of the sub, it is not grounded correctly.

Make sure to research everything before you attempt to do a novice install.

 

[Arfboy]

Originally posted by: mikeford
Whats a good place to talk about car stereo issues?

This one looks pretty good, but I haven't spent much time with it.
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb2/

This is a good forum for everyone from the beginner enthusiast to the craziest audiophiles. More specifically, anyone who's new to car audio and doesn't know where to start should check out the F.A.Q., which was taken from this. They have good discussions there on installs and technical issues, but I tend to ignore their opinions on various brands/models because I'm a die-hard Diamond Audio and Xtant user and they are a bit biased on their opinions.

 

[wuduhel]

what should the dimensions for a sealed enclosure housing two 12" be? i guess the actual HxWxD could be any shape so long as the volume is corrent. So i guess my question is what should the enclosure volume be?

TIA

 

[FreNte]

Some of the specs on a box depends on the subs themselves. The power and the size of the actual sub.
If you look up the model sub you have on the manufacturer's site it should tell you dimensions for sealed, ported and band pass.

 

[Silex]

Originally posted by: FreNte
The 1500 is a mono amp, meaning one speaker hook-up. The 2150 is a 2 channel meaning 2 speakers can be hooked up.

THESE SUBS ARE MADE FOR CAR AUDIO, BEWARE OF BLOWING YOUR HOME AUDIO SYSTEM!!

These subs don't seem to be that great. What matters in audio equipment is the rms which is the power it will normally be achieving.
The max wattage is not as important. This sub runs at 150 RMS 300 max.

I doubt these will be very clear or hit well. A refurbed sub? eh. if it's got great sound why would they refurb.
I would never buy a refurbed audio item. I think you all got sucked into something, lol.

Hope it works out for you. You also have to buy wiring for this and if your head unit does not have pre amp outs you will either have to buy a new head unit or get a line convertor for 15 to 30 bucks. You also need the power and rca wiring which could cost 40 bucks for a good kind. And if you do not know how to install it, another 50 for installation.
And 40-70 for a single box. 70-100 for a dual box.
Plus you will lose some valuable trunk space in a smaller vehicle.

I don't think some of you guys knew all that was involved. If you need help with wiring, let me know leave a post here and ill start a thread in the proper forum. good luck fellas.

Thank you for that longwinded explanantion lol. In any case, I'm building my own box, plus the calbes can be had off eBay for cheap. Friend installs stereos so it's cool. But when I asked about the difference between the two amps, I meant in the sense of which was better to hook up a couple of subs. I ask this, because I will be hooking them up to 'a pair of subs' .