!!!HOT!!! $9.99 Diamond SupraMax 56K V.92 PCI Modem

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feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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I just wish every hot deal post regarding a dial up modem wasn't invaded by smirking bores, arrogently proclaiming their great self satisfaction at having purchased broadband service. some of us can't get it in our area, can't afford it, don't want it, etc. Give it a rest, already; or go to Brag & Moan!
 

Atif

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Oct 10, 2001
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Here are details of the added features in the V.92 standard. Mainly Modem-on-hold and Quick Connect are the biggest additions. But again, if your ISP (like mines) doesn't support the added features, it's worthless to buy v.92

Peace
 

gorge

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Mar 3, 2002
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Just got off the phone with Diamond tech support. This modem is V.92 in hardware and firmware but needs additional software to make it work. The Diamond website is pretty worthless but email from tech support directed me to the proper links (see below). The first two links are for the modem on hold feature and the ftp site is for drivers for win2k and winXP. The SUP# for this modem is 2751. Your ISP must support V.92 and you need call-waiting from your telco. Use the 90 day support # below to contact Diamond's modem support (it's the only one that works) and when it asks if you'll agree to take a short customer satisfaction survey afterwords say yes (when I first said no, it put me on hold for ten minutes and then hung-up, but next time when I said yes it put me right thru to tech support). Anyway, here's the email from tech support (she was very helpful):

Thank you for contacting Diamond Legacy Product Support.

You can find the modem on Hold software from Conexant at the following
location: http://www.vee90.net/news_cnx_v92netwaiting.html

Software:
http://www.phoebemicro.com/drivers/v92/MOH-R3.zip

FTP Site:
ftp://ftp.diamondmm.com/pub/communications/supra/Supramax/sup2751/

If you need any additional assistance with this Diamond Legacy product or
any of our products, please feel free to email us back.

Regards-
Veronica W
SONICblue
Diamond/Rio Product Support
Phone for Extended Service Support: 800-661-4411
Phone for Support within initial 90 days: 254-299-2756
http://www.sonicblue.com
 

HepDude

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Apr 7, 2000
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<< Hardly a gouge and worth every penny of that $40 IMO. >>



For what?

Many, if not most web sites - including this one - don't feed as fast as my 56k modem can handle.

So, the only real uses for the extra $30 per month are downloading videos and MP3s.

For $360 a year, I can buy those movies and music on disk.
 

Spongo

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Jan 3, 2001
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Hmm...so is the general consensus to stick with v.90? Are there huge performance increases in v.92?
 

Devistater

Diamond Member
Sep 9, 2001
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No, the improvements to v.92 are as follows:
1) Faster negotiation, it will remember the number you dialed and connect faster since it remembers what the average of the speeds were that it connected before
2) Support for slightly higher upload speeds. If I remember correctly, normal v.90s can only upload at 33.6, this raised it to I think 48k, I don't remember the exact numbers off hand.
3) Support for the call notification thing, as noted, this and number 2 (I'm not sure about number 1) require v.92 support from your ISP, the call notification thing also requires call waiting from your phone company. Supposedly after you finish the voice call you can just resume the modem call from where you left off. I dunno if this is worth the $2 per month or whatever it will cost for call waiting though.

I think those were the main improvements. That's probably why they said v.92 from v.90, just an incremental improvement. Plus, someone mentioned this was a software modem. For $15 shipped you can get a v.90 intel PCI hardware modem in retail packaging, I've ordered two of these so far and it seems to work fine.
 

Atrac

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I have the Zoom V.92 modem. I installed the latest drivers for it. My isp doesn't support V.92. Once a day I get a message from the "Modem On-Hold" Program that there is a call coming in. It won't let me accept it or anything. Then I have to wait about a minute and it says "No Response...resuming connection." I have call waiting, but I always disable it.

Nothing like those "False Positives."
 

unclebud

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Jun 13, 2000
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"For $15 shipped you can get a v.90 intel PCI hardware modem in retail packaging, I've ordered two of these so far and it seems to work fine."

i'm like the old lady @ wendy's "where's tha link?" tia
 

Devistater

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Sep 9, 2001
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<< "For $15 shipped you can get a v.90 intel PCI hardware modem in retail packaging, I've ordered two of these so far and it seems to work fine."

i'm like the old lady @ wendy's "where's tha link?" tia
>>




Actually I got them on ebay, do a search for intel modem and you can find plenty, most of the ones that look cheaper than $15 have enough shipping to add up to about $15. Anyway, the guy I ordered two from has a website:
http://www.justmodem.com/
It says $15 with free ground shipping on the website, but if you compare the prices on his auctions to his website it ends up to be the same if its $8 with $7 shipping or so.
I ordered one for a friend and one for me (which I ended up using in a computer for my grandma, so I might order one or two more).
It looks like he may only take paypal. But a quick search on ebay turned up at least 2 or 3 other big vendors that I think take visa and stuff. Just play around and find out
 

phikhue

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Feb 16, 2001
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Has anyone get the Netwaiting (modem-on-hold) to work with Win XP? I could not get it to work. The modem is connected to the internet but the software Netwaiting does not see it (it still says "not connected").
 

VWTick

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Aug 9, 2001
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My ISP is coming out with V.92 in a couple months, their beta-testing it at one of their POPs and are rolling it out to the rest. I want the V.92 for my wife, she doesn't like me tieing up the phone line. The catch is I need an external, for my SMC router, which acts as a modem server. USR(3COM now) hasn't said if I will be able to flash my V.Everything external I bought used.
 

Squalish2357

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People, any modem that is not a hardware modem is crap.

Non-hardware modems = winmodems, controllerless modems, software modems, etc

v.90, v.92, 56kflex, etc require compression to work(the modem compresses the information, kinda like Zip-ing each packet) and in non-hardware modems, that task is left to the computer. In netscape and IE the computer is hardly ever tasked enough to show a decrement in performance, but in games, the performance sucks ass. My brother just got a geforce 3, and his winmodem slows his Tribes 2 down to 5fps in 800x600. Some are worse than others, as the one I have does much less to affect performance(and my video card is not up to snuff enough to show the modem as the bottleneck). But any modem that requires software to run(not including drivers) is total, complete crap. They were originally called winmodems because the modems only work under Windows, while their software is running, but someone(I forget who, maybe 3com?) copyrighted the name, and now it is very rare to find modems that even mention their methods. The worst winmodems are basically just phone jack input/output cards, while the best are little better(they may take some of the lower-level functions off of your hands). If you cannot get cable/DSL, go with a normal, hardware modem. The reason that some of these modems are upgradable to v.92 is that THEY THEMSELVES DO NOTHING, its just the software that must be changed. You will get a MUCH higher performance boost switching to a hardware modem. One of the 2 reasons that external modems are more expensive is that they are usually hardware modems, simply because it is not economical to make a plastic case & LEDs for something whose internal components cost a tenth as much.


remember:

controllerless=crap
winmodem=crap
softwaremodem=crap
any modem that requires software to be running to use it=crap
any modem that ONLY works under windows=crap

try referring to this page: http://www.mctxs.com/modems[1].htm to see examples of winmodems and non-winmodems
 

SimMike2

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<< People, any modem that is not a hardware modem is crap. >>

This is snobbish pure b*llsh!t. This reminds me of yesteryears SCSI Snobs.
 

jasonja

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Feb 22, 2001
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modems? that's so 90's

By the way Squalish2357, your theory totally falls apart on today's fast processors. Keeping a pathetically slow modem feed is nothing for an Athlon or P4.
Your theory = crap.
 

Mr. Pink

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Oct 11, 1999
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Hmm..I heard D/L speed is faster with a V.92 modems as well due to better compression. But then, I'd never use a modem anyway. Even if you never play games online or access music and video through the web, paying extra for broadband is worth it, IMHO, just based upon the time saved from not waiting for web page to load up. For most people, paying extra $20 per month is worth it compared to waiting hours per week in front of your PC waiting for website to load.
 

Salvador

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I'll take a 500 mhz machine or even slower with a cable connection any day over dial up with the fastest thing on the market.
 

shurato

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Ok you stupid people who have their opinions on how dialup sucks so much should take it to the hardare forums and stop cluttering this f'in thread. To get back on track, this Intel modem seems like a hybrid winmodem...some of the functions are still done by the cpu...well at least thats what it says on that guys auction on fleabay. With hardware modems, arent all processing done by the modem itself?
 

Squalish2357

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Simmike and JasonJa: I speak from the bias of being a gamer as opposed to an AOL user. My brother is on a P3/600 and he is always trying to use mine, because mine has a better winmodem(my system was ordered by an ignorant 3rd party because of Dell's '#1 service and support'). IF you have no plans to get cable/DSL in the next year, a hardware modem is a very good idea. A winmodem is fine for browsing, but for any power-users (And power-users are the ones that tend to visit "computer hardware discussion forums") it is a piece of crap. There are posts on these forums describing how much better CAS2 is than CAS3, and details on overclocking your processor 5%, no matter that the performance increase associated with these is tiny. The fact is, though it does not take the capacity of our modern high-speed processors, it takes SOME of the capacity, and that is not good.

Shurato: "Controllerless" modems tend to take the lowest level of IO functions out of the hands of the processor, if you check the definition. The marketters frequently don't.
 

jasonja

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Feb 22, 2001
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<< Ok you stupid people who have their opinions on how dialup sucks so much should take it to the hardare forums and stop cluttering this f'in thread >>



Ouch... I forgot how bitter modem users are... j/k... settle down, we've all been there.
 

Praxis

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I'm not too concerned about the processor power that a software modem requires. Most of the time my CPU is largely fallow, anyway and my Ensoniq PCI sound card eats a lot more cycles playing MP3s than my bottom of the line PcTel modem, my K6-2 450 powerhouse handles them both with aplomb (as does my Athlon XP1800+, of course).
But a bigger concern for me is Linux support. Actually, some "win"modems are now being supported by Linux. Probably the Lucent chipset is the best for this (I have one that works well with SuSE 7.2), but strides have been made getting the Supra's Conexant (Rockwell) chipset to play nice with the Penguin. Conexant has an official HSF Linux driver & a HCF driver is promised "soon" (probably May 2002).
http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
 

ww4397

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May 14, 2001
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This may be a long shot but there are two (slightly) different $10 rebates here. This creates the potential for a FREE modem.

The first rebate prints out with the store receipt. That rebate goes to:

SonicBlue SupraMax $10 MIR
Dept. 28140
PO Box 52900
Phoenix, AZ 85072

The second rebate is a peel-off sticker on the box itself. That rebate goes to:

Diamond SupraMax Offer
Dept. 23730
PO Box 52995
Phoenix, AZ 85072

Notice that the Name, Dept., and PO Box are different!

One (big) probelm is that both want the original UPC. But I think I'll send them both in anyhow with a copy of the UPC in one along with a note that the original was used for another rebate. IMO, since this would work out to be FREE, it's worth the effort.
 
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