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joshdura

Junior Member
May 29, 2002
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What makes any of you think that this kind of thing isnt going to happen again? I mean just think about it..... you are paying $4 for a year, and most bandwidth at most RELIABLE data storage places is about $2 a gig or so..... Why do you think he went down before? Because he signed up too much and couldnt pay the bill. You would think that this guy would learn his lesson and start over again with new prices.

Just remember, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Josh Dura
 

Crackabot

Senior member
Dec 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: joshdura
What makes any of you think that this kind of thing isnt going to happen again? I mean just think about it..... you are paying $4 for a year, and most bandwidth at most RELIABLE data storage places is about $2 a gig or so..... Why do you think he went down before? Because he signed up too much and couldnt pay the bill. You would think that this guy would learn his lesson and start over again with new prices.

Just remember, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Josh Dura

Well that's a new and original idea...I don't think it's ever been stated during this whole CW fiasco.........

I'm pretty sure that most of us that are going to give this another chance don't really use our sites for anyhting important, and if CW manages to stay up for another year without going down well then we win (very cheap hosting with no adds) if it doesn't then no big deal.

 

glitched

Junior Member
Jul 30, 2001
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#396

Last night while checking my helpdesk submission, I noticed there was an announcement posted:


Announcement
Author: admin
Time: 26-7-2002-11:54

Subject: Update & Thank you, from Shawn.


Announcement: Thank you for the overwhelming number of responses we have received from 3:00pm EDT today through Midnight tonight (Friday July 26th, 2002) - we are happy to report that less than 10% of all tickets filed are refund requests and we have had MANY good comments in our REBUILD tickets in support of our project. We appreciate your support - we will prevail - now that we have a partial snapshot as to how many people want to be Rebuilt vs. Refunded, we are very happy to report we are preparing to install more servers in response to this snapshot. I have personally been looking at many tickets tonight, reading comments (thank you for your constructive criticism as well as positive support) and just please know that I am personally involved in this rebuild project from the ground up.

Thanks for your support.

Shawn


 

tenest

Member
Jul 21, 2001
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i have asked for a rebuild (see number below). i want to see what type of compensation package they are offering. after they make the official announcement, i will see if i can get an additional domain as my compensation instead of more space. here is my rebuild request "form" that i submitted:

wait, before you read it, i must comment on this "form" : what a friggin joke! why did it take DAYS to "test" this?? i could have built an interactive form that tied directly into their db server in 1/4th the time it took them to get this up, and i dont even KNOW perl! even if they have something on the receiving end that parses the data, it STILL shouldnt have taken as long as it did. it's a totally back-@$$wards way of doing things!. there. [forest gump voice] that's all i have to say about that.[/forest gump voice]


Please be sure to read the explanation below regarding creating a Security Question/Answer carefully.


Security Question: best way to piss off a customer or employee?
Security Answer: keeping them in the dark


Comments:
actually, i have several comments to make.
since PLESK is written in perl and ties back into MySQL or some other SQL-based server application, there is no reason why customers should have to copy and paste this "form" into a help desk ticket form. you should have been able to write a form inside of PLESK that specifically deals with a rebuild or refund request. second, asking that customers copy everything in "red" ignores that some 30% of males suffer from some form of COLORBLINDNESS.

more importantly, i have several concerns with the way shawn and the entire staff have handled the events over the last few weeks. there was VERY little communication between your organization and the customer. the majority of the communication that DID happen, was sent through an IRC channel. while i have been using IRC for many years, there are multitudes of your customers who are not versed in IRC. also, i do not have time to sit in the channel moniting it for updates. I did sign up for your e-newsletter, but beyond the confirmation email confirming i had subscribed, that was the ONLY email i received from cyberwings.

last, and most importantly, i have WITNESSED and read through several IRC logs where your shawn was EXTREMELY *RUDE* to many of his own customers. i witnessed one customer who was kicked from the channel by shawn simply because he asked how much longer it was going to be before the servers would be back online. that type of behavior from the owner of the company is UNACCEPTABLE *REGARDLESS* of what the customer has said or done. "the customer is always right" PERIOD. even if the customer is completely wrong, they are still RIGHT. accepting any other attitudes towards customers will only kill your business.

i have been a customer servie rep, a technician, the president of a company, a system administrator, a marketing manager, a public relations manager, and numerous other positions across a wide-range of industries. i have dealt with numerous customers who i wished i could have strangled. i understand how it can become frustrating when customers are negative and harrassing. however, had i done anything even REMOTELY close to what i witnessed shawn do, i would have been terminated IMMEDIATELY.

Shawn needs to seriously re-think why he is in this business. if he truly wants to make it a success, he needs to either receive more training in customer service, or hire someone with more experience in this area. if not, then he stands to lose even more customers. just providing a service for "cheap" means nothing if there is no support for the service.

while i'm sure the person reading this ticket will most likely stop reading after the colorblind statement, hopefully some of it will makes it way through to shawn.


by the way, my customer ticket is number 1297
 

mccall

Senior member
Sep 5, 2000
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Just last week Shawn said there would be 4 people working on setting up reseller acconts and 3 people setting up indiviual accounts initially, and then 10 staff members working on setting up accounts.

But just now on the IRC channel Shawn said he "expects" 40 accounts of each type to be set up per day. That isn't much if there really is that many people working on the accounts. Looks like everyone is in for a long wait.

 

preCRT

Platinum Member
Apr 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: mccall
Just last week Shawn said there would be 4 people working on setting up reseller acconts and 3 people setting up indiviual accounts initially, and then 10 staff members working on setting up accounts.

But just now on the IRC channel Shawn said he "expects" 40 accounts of each type to be set up per day. That isn't much if there really is that many people working on the accounts. Looks like everyone is in for a long wait.


Considering how well Shawn has kept each promise for the last month, good luck seeing an account by Labor Day.

Got my refund already. I'm whistling Dixie now


Goodbye lame excuses, rude staff, lies, and no service
Goodbye CEO-Shawn :disgust:
 

puppyfriend

Senior member
Dec 30, 2001
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I'm not going to bother filling a ticket until people start getting rebuilt. Doesn't it seem wierd to anyone that we have to file a ticket with all that information to get our accounts back. I understand the need to ask for rebuild or refund, but he should be able to do that with our names or at most our usernames. Doesn't he have a database with all his customers in it?

David
 

kassaam

Member
Aug 22, 2001
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I have a number in the 50s and haven't heard a word yet about setup. I thought I would be one of the first since my number is so low.
 

Methos1995

Senior member
Sep 15, 2000
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I'm number 1426.
In the Q&A for July27:
Q: Can you tell us what the AYW entails as far as storage space/bandwidth limits/etc.?
A: Each of the AYW will be custom created based on what Individual accounts you already have
I have one I5 plan ordered back in April and 1 more ordered when they had their "Birthday Special buy one, get one free" deal which is supposed to give me double bandwith and storage for both accts since I ordered with paypal. Does anyone know what this would mean for me? Is there a list or faq somewhere explaining what we will get, and also what these "bonuses" are he keeps saying we will get for "sticking it through"?

Thanks for any help you can offer.
 

Fill

Member
Mar 22, 2002
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The following was cut and paste from cyberwings.com:

Luckily, the ones that are being vocal and trashing Cyberwings all over the place only represent a VERY small majority of our customer base


He's absolutely correct. The majority are bitching about his service!
 

mccall

Senior member
Sep 5, 2000
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Methos1995
During the IRC Q&A today someone asked about them posting some sort of breakdown listing exactly what each "plan" would be getting as far as bandwidth/storage/etc. when converted into the AYW account that will take the place of the individual accounts/plans. For what it's worth Shawn said they would type up a list and post it on their site. You shuld check their site very few days and see if it ever gets posted.
 

dcdomain

Diamond Member
Jan 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: puppyfriend
I'm not going to bother filling a ticket until people start getting rebuilt. Doesn't it seem wierd to anyone that we have to file a ticket with all that information to get our accounts back. I understand the need to ask for rebuild or refund, but he should be able to do that with our names or at most our usernames. Doesn't he have a database with all his customers in it?

David

I'm with you buddy... my sites on Dixiesys servers now anyway, so no rush, lets see how this plays out.
 

RSG2

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Sep 20, 2001
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I was #20 (I really should be bailing out on principle, but it was cheap, and I just can't afford to pay more for something I'll barely get any use out of). I got my confirmation/welcome back e-mail at 5:36 PM CDT. Kind of a long time from last night's "we working on them now". I ws told that that was part of the many problems - there was no automation in their processes, and the staff never had time to find it because Shawn was always putting them so far behind with sales. I have to admit, they did get my account from the first time set-up and runing withing 2 days, including the propogation (which really doesn't have much of anything to do with them, especially since I went through GoDaddy to get my domain).

We'll see how long this lasts - I still have my doubts that this can stand up long term. The amount of goodwill he and his staff burned through is incredible. The ill will that the built up is immense, and will be a lot harder to get rid of.
 

Methos1995

Senior member
Sep 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: mccall
Methos1995
During the IRC Q&A today someone asked about them posting some sort of breakdown listing exactly what each "plan" would be getting as far as bandwidth/storage/etc. when converted into the AYW account that will take the place of the individual accounts/plans. For what it's worth Shawn said they would type up a list and post it on their site. You shuld check their site very few days and see if it ever gets posted.

Thanks for the info, maccall.
 

aphex

Moderator<br>All Things Apple
Moderator
Jul 19, 2001
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Welp i didnt have my transaction numbers so i did what CW said to do and contacted 2checkout.com... Their responce?

"Contact Cyberwings for details of your account, they have full access to
this information.
--
Bill
www.2Checkout.com
Support Forums for Members
Located in the Admin Panel"


Should i be surprized? No.
 
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