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Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
Got mine today. The SP2208WFP is pretty nice. The computer is sitting here in its unopened box. Not sure what to do with it...

If you are reasonably cheap with it, I might buy it off ya. PM me if your interested. My wife could use a new computer.

Tried to PM you, but it looks like you don't have it enabled.



Depending on what you want for it I might be interested myself ... let me know.

Edit: PM replied
 

TDH

Junior Member
Mar 19, 2008
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I spoke to a Dell support person last night and they told me (which I'm sure is just reading off a piece of paper), that the Dell 530 only supports 4GB of 1.8V DDR2 667/800, in 1 GB sticks. It does not support 2.1V DDR or 2GB sticks per channel since there is no option in the bios to increase the memory voltage. I'm sure that this is just limited by dell since it seems the board itself supports 8GB. I wonder if the new BIOS update which allows for memory above 4GB to be recognized fixes this?? I would think that would allow 2 GB sticks, but they would still have to run at 1.8v.

I'm confused... LOL...



Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: TDH
Has anyone tried memory in this box at over 1.8v and had it work?? I'd really like to order 4GB of Corsair DDR2 800 from NewEgg (four 1 GB sticks) but they run at 2.1v.. Don't want to waste my money if they won't work...

I'm curious what memory upgrades people are doing myself. I typically go with crucial, which would be $88.18 for 4GB, but if there is a cheaper option even better.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=40&threadid=2116041

Two of these 2GB modules will run perfectly. Or one of the 2GB kits linked there as well.

 

ArchAngel777

Diamond Member
Dec 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: TDH
I spoke to a Dell support person last night and they told me (which I'm sure is just reading off a piece of paper), that the Dell 530 only supports 4GB of 1.8V DDR2 667/800, in 1 GB sticks. It does not support 2.1V DDR or 2GB sticks per channel since there is no option in the bios to increase the memory voltage. I'm sure that this is just limited by dell since it seems the board itself supports 8GB. I wonder if the new BIOS update which allows for memory above 4GB to be recognized fixes this?? I would think that would allow 2 GB sticks, but they would still have to run at 1.8v.

I'm confused... LOL...

Hopefully, this will help.

If you buy something that is 2.1v @ 1066 RAM. Usually the SPD is configured for 667 or 800 @ 1.8v. Very rarely is a memory module programmed with anything greater than 1.8v at either 667 or 800 in the case of DDR2. This is because it must conform to the JEDEC spec so that motherboards can at least boot up, allowing the user then to set DIMMS for a greater voltage and speed.

So, DDR2 800Mhz @ 2.0v will be programed for DDR2 667 @ 1.8v for auto detect. This allows you to put this DDR2 800 in your motherboard, boot up as DDR2 667 (It really is a 667 module overclocked) and then manually increase the voltage to 2.0 and the speed to 800Mhz. If they didn't do this, you would run into a major issue - unable to boot up into BIOS.

The key to all of this is understanding that any memory module outside the JEDEC spec is overclocked memory. But if the modules were programmed for the overclocked speeds, they would be relatively worthless and a high return rate. You would have to boot into your motherboard with different RAM, set the voltage and speed, save settings and power off, then pop in your overclocked modules. This is only *IF* the overclocked memory was programmed incorrectly, and didn't conform to a JEDEC spec.

I hope this helps you understand... Again, keep in mind that a lot of high end memory is overclocked modules that a cherry picked and ran at a higher voltage for increased frequency or reduced latency.

 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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I sent you a PM with my email addy. I'm not sure what the deal is, my profile says PM is enabled.
 

TheDrake

Senior member
Dec 5, 2006
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Wow, Dell was pretty darn quick. Ordered this sucker on Monday Afternoon, shipped out yesterday and according to DHL it will be here tomorrow. I plan to take the Q6600 out and throw a E4300, 2GB of Ram, and Radeon X1950 256MB video card that I have laying around in it and sell the bad boy.
 

piotrgurin

Senior member
Apr 4, 2005
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I just finished finished "pimping my inspiron"....

It now has ultimta 90 heat sink w/ no fan, 2x2 gskill 1000 ram, that free geforce videocard that was posted in hot deals recently, swaped the psu for a corsair 450, and cut up the back of the case to swap that dinky little fan for a 120 .

The comp is awesome now, its supper quiet, CPU temps dropped 5 degrees without a fan!

I gotta say though, dell is complete crap. i can't belive people pay full price for this junk. The case is junk, the mobo is junk, the ram was junk, the cdrom is junk, the PSU was SUPER JUNK!

For a few bucks more they could make a sweet system like i made , but instead they make JUNK!
 

ctcsoft

Platinum Member
Nov 21, 2003
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if anyone got one of these and wants to unload it let me know. for a reasonable price please.

i missed the boat again!

 

takeru

Golden Member
Jan 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: TDH
I spoke to a Dell support person last night and they told me (which I'm sure is just reading off a piece of paper), that the Dell 530 only supports 4GB of 1.8V DDR2 667/800, in 1 GB sticks. It does not support 2.1V DDR or 2GB sticks per channel since there is no option in the bios to increase the memory voltage. I'm sure that this is just limited by dell since it seems the board itself supports 8GB. I wonder if the new BIOS update which allows for memory above 4GB to be recognized fixes this?? I would think that would allow 2 GB sticks, but they would still have to run at 1.8v.

I'm confused... LOL...

Hopefully, this will help.

If you buy something that is 2.1v @ 1066 RAM. Usually the SPD is configured for 667 or 800 @ 1.8v. Very rarely is a memory module programmed with anything greater than 1.8v at either 667 or 800 in the case of DDR2. This is because it must conform to the JEDEC spec so that motherboards can at least boot up, allowing the user then to set DIMMS for a greater voltage and speed.

So, DDR2 800Mhz @ 2.0v will be programed for DDR2 667 @ 1.8v for auto detect. This allows you to put this DDR2 800 in your motherboard, boot up as DDR2 667 (It really is a 667 module overclocked) and then manually increase the voltage to 2.0 and the speed to 800Mhz. If they didn't do this, you would run into a major issue - unable to boot up into BIOS.

The key to all of this is understanding that any memory module outside the JEDEC spec is overclocked memory. But if the modules were programmed for the overclocked speeds, they would be relatively worthless and a high return rate. You would have to boot into your motherboard with different RAM, set the voltage and speed, save settings and power off, then pop in your overclocked modules. This is only *IF* the overclocked memory was programmed incorrectly, and didn't conform to a JEDEC spec.

I hope this helps you understand... Again, keep in mind that a lot of high end memory is overclocked modules that a cherry picked and ran at a higher voltage for increased frequency or reduced latency.

loaded 4x2gig crucial ballistix ddr2-800 memory into this. ubuntu x64 sees it fine, 7.8gigs available on system monitor.

the memory is rated at 2.2v on newegg. so does that mean mine are running at 667 1.8v now?
 

ArchAngel777

Diamond Member
Dec 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: takeru

loaded 4x2gig crucial ballistix ddr2-800 memory into this. ubuntu x64 sees it fine, 7.8gigs available on system monitor.

the memory is rated at 2.2v on newegg. so does that mean mine are running at 667 1.8v now?

Yes, they should be running at 667, or possibly even 533 depending on the type of motherboard Dell uses in that machine. Intel requires a minimum 1:1 ratio, so a Q6600 G0 has 266Mhz bus speed (Quad Pumped @ 1066) and the memory required for that bus is 266Mhz (DDR2 533). That means if you overclock your chip using the pin mods to 3Ghz, you will be running at 333Mhz bus speed and will require 333Mhz ram, which is DDR2 667.

So to answer your question, it could be running at DDR2 533, or DDR2 667. I would have huge doubts that it would be running at 800Mhz because your system probably wouldn't boot up or if you did happen to boot up, would be vastly unstable.


 

RedWolf

Golden Member
Oct 27, 1999
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I ordered one on Tuesday morning. It arrived Friday at about noon. Monitor is a nice basic monitor. Decent quality. No backlight bleed and decent color. It doesn't look as nice as my HP 24" monitor.

The case is about as cheap as you can get. We have Dells at work and the cases on them are much higher quality. 120mm fan, toolless, and thick guage metal. This case is none of those things. Requires a screwdriver for everything, side panels are super thin, and a single 80mm fan. Even the thumbscrews are worthless. They are smooth so they're tough to get out. Very disappointed in the case. My 4 year old Antec Sonata I is much higher quality and has more modern features than this case. One positive on the case is that it is quite compact. About 14.5x14.5x7. The front bezel is of a higher quality than the rest of the case. Its made of thick, solid plastic and looks decent.

The keyboard is the cheapest, flimsiest keyboard I've ever seen. I think you could twist it in half with little effort. The mouse is a standard 2 button mouse.

I put an 8600 GTS and Creative Labs Sound Blaster Gamer Fatality Professional in. Hooked up 2 usb hubs, an external hard drive, a card reader, and usb kb/mouse. Seems to run fine thus far. I've got two more hard drives to add (one will have to go in the external 3.5" drive spot) so hopefully the hd will handle it. Overall, I'm happy with it. For the price, it's a great deal.
 

dclive

Elite Member
Oct 23, 2003
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Got the Quad 6600 Dell deal for $680 or so delivered after tax.

The PSU's great - the 8800GTS/320 I put in there works perfectly.

The keyboard and mouse are fine - generic, works great, etc.

24" Monitor's great - worlds better than my previous Dell 20" 2001FP Ultrasharp monitor.

The motherboard requires a BIOS update to see >3.2GB, so once that's done, it runs 64 bit Windows OSs perfectly and they see a full 8GB of RAM (assuming you put 4x2GB sticks in, of course).

I couldn't be more pleased with the purchase - great hardware, easy case to work in, power supply powers the 8800GTS/320 perfectly, and the RAM I have in it is fully supported.

 

TDH

Junior Member
Mar 19, 2008
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Does anyone how how to turn the onboard Video off on this system?? Got my system, and threw 4 GB of DDR 2 800 in it along with a 9600 GT video card. I see no options in the BIOS to turn off onboard video. When I look at the specs for the video card (Vista Home Premium).

Here is what I see..

Total Available Graphics Memory: 1791MB
Dedicated Video Memory: 512 MB
System Video Memory: 0 MB
Shared System Memory 1279 MB

My system only shows 3 GB even though I have 4 GB. Understand that issue since it's a 32 bit issue with MS. What I don't understand is the shared system memory at 1279 MB! I don't want to give up system memory when I don't have to.

Thanks in advance.

Russ
 

Synomenon

Lifer
Dec 25, 2004
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When you installed 1.89, it didn't work at all? Sorry, I don't have any other suggestions. Those are the only Realtek drivers I know of. Unless the motherboard in this Dell actually has something else (not an ALC 8xx audio chip).
 
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