**HOT **Dual Core Opteron 165 1mb cache x2 = $ 270.00

[harpy82]

Originally posted by: tubs
I just got my opteron 165/DFI ultra-d combo and they already stuck the thermaltake venus 8 heatsink on the cpu..can't see the cpu date code. Anyone know if there's an easy way to remove the heatsink so I can see the code? I tried unclipping the heatsink, but it seems to be stuck on there fairly tight...

twist the heatsink here and there to wiggle it off...
make sure u hav some thermalpaste on hand first.....

 

[sidneyb]

If all the components were same or equal(1 Gig Ram, fast disk, fast video card,....), how much faster would a computer with the Opteron 165 dual core be than my existing P4 2.4 Ghz?

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: sidneyb
If all the components were same or equal(1 Gig Ram, fast disk, fast video card,....), how much faster would a computer with the Opteron 165 dual core be than my existing P4 2.4 Ghz?

I'm guessing you're refering to single-threaded apps and at stock settings?

 

[whovous]

Originally posted by: sidneyb
If all the components were same or equal(1 Gig Ram, fast disk, fast video card,....), how much faster would a computer with the Opteron 165 dual core be than my existing P4 2.4 Ghz?

This is not really an easy question to answer, so bear with me for a while. I own a 165, and with current software, it does not often use both cores at once. It is hard to predict when software designed to take advantage of dual cores will change this.

Another problem is that AMD CPUs emphasize architecture over CPU speed. Your CPU runs at 2.4Gigahertz. Only the most expensive AMDs run that fast.

Generally, AMD assigns a 4 digit number to its CPUs (though not to the Opteron family) and that number gives AMDs estimate of how it compares in performance to an Intel chip. An AMD 2400+ should slightly outperform your 2.4G P4.

An Opteron 165 contains two processors each operating at 1.8Ghz. The closest single chip comparison I can find is the AMD Athlon 64 2800+, which also operates at 1.8Ghz. This chip will clearly outperform your 2.4 P4, but not by an enormous margin. I do not know how much having a second chip adds to that margin using current software.

All this leaves out an important point, however. With the right equipment, the Opteron 165 is insanely easy to overclock. My setup includes a DFI NF4 UT LANParty Ultra D mobo with 2 x 512Mb of Geil ONE RAM. I've achieved stable overclocks of 300 x 9, or 2.7Ghz. By stable, I mean I ran Prime95 on BOTH cores for over nine hours. By comparison, the AMD Athlon64 Dual Core 4600+ and 4800+ both operate at 2.4Ghz.

So, my Opteron 165 will OC to noticeably faster than a 4800+ running at its stock speed (as an aside, I do not know how much a 4800+ will OC, but I will bet it is nowhere near the 50% OC I got from my 165).

Not every 165 will OC to 2.7, and I dialed mine back to a fraction under 2.5Ghz due to noise and heat issues. With the right mobo, power supply and good RAM (so-called Value RAM is not the overclocker's friend), an Opteron 165 will go fairly easily to 2.4Ghz or more.

Of course, none of this really answers your question, as I do not know how well your 2.4 will OC. Neither do I know if you even have any interest in overclocking.

I hope this gives you at least some clue of how a 165 compares to your P4.

 

[mrkun]

The AMD 64 3000+ Venice is clocked 1.8 GHz by default.

 

[akahai]

Looks like the newest stepping are CCB1E 0550.

 

[mrkun]

Out of curiosity, why are we still posting in this thread? There must be hundreds of people now that have come through here thinking they could still get a 165 Opty for $270.

 

[whovous]

Originally posted by: mrkun
The AMD 64 3000+ Venice is clocked 1.8 GHz by default.

Hmm, stare at the AMD processor tables long enough, and you can miss some pretty obvious things.

The AMD 3000+ is clocked at 2.0Ghz on Socket 754, but mrkun is correct that it is clocked at 1.8Ghz on the more modern Socket 939. Since the Opteron 165 is also a Socket 939 CPU, it makes more sense to compare it to other 939 devices.

I stand corrected. The 165 is better compared to a 3000+ than a 2800+.

 

[A5]

Lowest price on RTPE is $313 @ ZZF now...all major retailers have a price increase for the week...looks like the Opteron train is leaving without me on it - wish my damn company would send my W2 :|

 

[supercharged442]

That be y I came in here.

My Opty 165 is stable at 295 x 9 = 2.65 with Zalman CNPS9500 (VERY QUIET FAN) only problem is my mobo (abit kn8 ultra) doesn't have enough divider options so I have to run my memory at 190 Mhz 2-3-2-5. Its OCZ gold performance EL dual channel ddr400 (not the best) but my system is running strong and I am very pleased with the KN8 incase anyone was wondering. OCed to 330 fsb, too bad the 165 failed at 300

Anyone know a good place to find a hacked bios that might add some dividers??

 

[robertk2012]

lol i need your board. my motherboard becomes unstable before my 165

 

[bigpow]

Originally posted by: supercharged442
That be y I came in here.

My Opty 165 is stable at 295 x 9 = 2.65 with Zalman CNPS9500 (VERY QUIET FAN) only problem is my mobo (abit kn8 ultra) doesn't have enough divider options so I have to run my memory at 190 Mhz 2-3-2-5. Its OCZ gold performance EL dual channel ddr400 (not the best) but my system is running strong and I am very pleased with the KN8 incase anyone was wondering. OCed to 330 fsb, too bad the 165 failed at 300

Anyone know a good place to find a hacked bios that might add some dividers??

Have you tried lower multiplier?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: mrkun
Out of curiosity, why are we still posting in this thread? There must be hundreds of people now that have come through here thinking they could still get a 165 Opty for $270.

Heh, I damn sure checked when I saw it.

 

[hytek369]

wow