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[hallf]

Originally posted by: GuruBob
Dumb question:

When you do a CD with HD-burn, can that CD be read on any other cd unit or does it have to be read in the Optorite unit?

Due to the smaller pit size and higher density, I would assume these can only be read on a drive that is HD-burn compatible.

 

[SwaidZor]

there is a problem in the HD buring in CDs. Not ALL drive will be able to read the CDs that you burn on with HD. On the other hand what Plextor is doing, almost all drives can read and reconize what is burned.

ZDNet blurb

Best sumerizes HD technology...

"This renders the disc incompatible with standard CD or DVD drives. Only HD-Burn-compatible CD drives can read it back, while a standard DVD drive can read it as long as it has a firmware upgrade, claims Sanyo."

 

[ivan2]

does this optorite have anything related to optodisc? cuz optodisc dvd-r's are kinda SUCKS!!!

 

[Gnurb]

CHEAP ELECTRONICS. $550 for a Panasonic 42" Plasma TV. Game Consoles for $55.
Get Paid $500-$700 a week for downloading free software!

ugh.

nice deal, don't have the $$$ now though.

 

[RichieZ]

CRAP! I just bought the Sony DRU-510A and I can't return it to where I bought it from. DAMN! Was gonna get the NEC but their OEM drives don't have a warranty.

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

As stated in the first post, HD Burn CD-R's can be read on DVD-ROM that have been firmware upgraded to support this, and like already stated LiteOn says they are supporting this technology.

 

[ledorky]

What pisses me off are all those people commenting "non-standard" = useless.
I say to that: So bleeping what?!
The other drives they used for comparison all required expensive new media.
And yes, firmware (if possible) need to be upgraded for a lot of these drives.
The point is: we are getting more out of dirt cheap CDR's. LOTS more. I'm gonna use this for data archiving and move them over to DVD-+R when the pricepoint for that media approaches what CD blanks are going for now.
Imagine if someone can hack the Apex DVD players (or other cheapies) so that they can read these HD CD's. Wouldn't that be a bonus?
If Lite-On says they're supporting the tech, then I think this will be a much bigger deal than the old HD floppies.

 

[Shippy]

My Apex DVD player has the HDCD logo on the front.

 

[ScorpioNv]

Which model is that Apex, 2500?

Edit: Checked the Apex website, they list the 5131 as the one that is HDCD capable.

 

[mcdull]

Originally posted by: ledorky
What pisses me off are all those people commenting "non-standard" = useless.
I say to that: So bleeping what?!
The other drives they used for comparison all required expensive new media.
And yes, firmware (if possible) need to be upgraded for a lot of these drives.
The point is: we are getting more out of dirt cheap CDR's. LOTS more. I'm gonna use this for data archiving and move them over to DVD-+R when the pricepoint for that media approaches what CD blanks are going for now.
Imagine if someone can hack the Apex DVD players (or other cheapies) so that they can read these HD CD's. Wouldn't that be a bonus?
If Lite-On says they're supporting the tech, then I think this will be a much bigger deal than the old HD floppies.

I'm not sure if oridnary CD drive can read the HD CD or not, though I believe probably not.
Then, I don't see the reason to use HD CD. CD-R is almost always free after rebate, so 1 CD is free, 2 CDs are still free. Using HD CD to burn, you will have a hard time to share your CD with others or you have to make another 2CD copies to do so. And if you mainly burn CD image of software or games, then you're not using HD CD at all.

BTW, DVD has way better error correction algorithm (e.g. allow much longer scratch damage) than CD, so I would recommend using DVD for backup purpose.

So, for me, DVD+/-RW is good enough, it almost guanrantees other DVD drives can read it, not problem in sharing. And the price of the media will eventually drop to the level of CDR, 1x DVD-R is around $.50 each already.
And I don't really care about DVD-R or DVD+R, once you burn a DVD- or +R, most of DVD drives can read both formats (actually, I prefer DVD-R because the disc is cheaper and has better compatibility with xbox and ps2), so dual format support isn't really important.

Having 2 format supports is nice, but if I have to pay premium for it, I would choose either DVD-R or DVD+R which is a lot cheaper.

 

[Esquire]

software?

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: ScorpioNv
Which model is that Apex, 2500?

Edit: Checked the Apex website, they list the 5131 as the one that is HDCD capable.

HDCD is a music CD format that has higher quality audio than a standard CD, but isn't quite up there with SACD. It has nothing to do with burning double onto a regular CD-R.

 

[Tnvolsfan]

The best deal is the 2.4x 200i at Staples clearance for $105.50!!!

 

[Pothead]

the staples is a YMMV.

 

[conehead433]

Hopefully someone who buys this drive will post a message here about how well it works. After seeing the bit about HD burning for CD's I am sold on buying a DVD burner that has that feature.
This drive being a dual format is a big plus also, considering how much cheaper DVD-R discs are.
Sanyo seems to be somewhat of a new player in optical drives so I'd like to see some reviews first. And from what I've seen of user reviews regarding Optorite's CD burners I would ordinarily avoid the brand altogether. Not sure who was making their CD RW's though so it may be unfair to lump this (Sanyo) DVD drive with them. Maybe some reviews will start popping up. This is a hard one to pass up. I've been holding out for Lite-On to market their own build but it may be sometime before they are <$200 and support HD.

 

[Fuboy]

Originally posted by: conehead433
Sanyo seems to be somewhat of a new player in optical drives so I'd like to see some reviews first.

What are you talking about? Sanyo isn't a new player in the optical world. As a matter of fact, Sanyo developed the Burn-Proof Technology found on most optical drives today.

 

[Esquire]

fuboy is right

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: GetInMyFatBelly
Isn't a resellers rating of 8.57 great?

yes, it is

 

[conehead433]

"What are you talking about? Sanyo isn't a new player in the optical world. As a matter of fact, Sanyo developed the Burn-Proof Technology found on most optical drives today."

OK I'm pretty sure that I'm not stupid and I'm in no way accusing you of being such, but when I search on Pricewatch for Sanyo DVD drives I get a whopping total of zero, and when I search for CD burners manufactured by Sanyo I get a total of two, and those in the category of $3000 duplicators.
I know for a fact that Lite-On is the world's largest manufacturer of optical drives in spite of the fact that they are relatively new to the DVD RW market even though they have made some very good DVD ROM drives and CD RW drives. I just happened to see a ranking of the top ten CD RW drives recently and five of them were made by Lite-On, those being TDK, Sony, Memorex, Cendyne, and Lite-On. So what if Sanyo came out with Burn-Proof Technology. Show me a track record of the reliability of their optical drives and I'll put up and shut up. I would be buying this drive but for one reason- none of the players here are names I trust. So I'll wait and see what some users and reviewers have to say about their product. I will give Sanyo a big plus for their inventiveness in regard to Burn-Proof and to the new HD technology which doubles the Data capacity of a CD disc. I just don't have any evidence at this time of any success on their part with optical drives. Creating a technology that is used by many and building drives that work are two different things altogether.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Well, here are some things for you to think about.

1.Concerning HD and GigaRec burning both use similar technology. They decreasse the pit length. Since both drives use the same technology and GigaRec has some compability issues I wouldn't be surprised if HD will have compability problems too.

2.Concerning LiteOn drives supporting HD burning I would like to see some press release or something. LiteOn says a lot of things, particularly a year or two ago they said they would support FMD discs but guess what - no FMD even a year after. Besides LiteOn uses mediatek logic and Sanyo uses (not too hard to guess) it's own logic, so there is no way current LiteOn CDRW drives will be able to read HD discs even after firmware upgrade.

conehead433
OK I'm pretty sure that I'm not stupid and I'm in no way accusing you of being such, but when I search on Pricewatch for Sanyo DVD drives I get a whopping total of zero, and when I search for CD burners manufactured by Sanyo I get a total of two, and those in the category of $3000 duplicators.
I know for a fact that Lite-On is the world's largest manufacturer of optical drives in spite of the fact that they are relatively new to the DVD RW market even though they have made some very good DVD ROM drives and CD RW drives. I just happened to see a ranking of the top ten CD RW drives recently and five of them were made by Lite-On, those being TDK, Sony, Memorex, Cendyne, and Lite-On. So what if Sanyo came out with Burn-Proof Technology. Show me a track record of the reliability of their optical drives and I'll put up and shut up. I would be buying this drive but for one reason- none of the players here are names I trust. So I'll wait and see what some users and reviewers have to say about their product. I will give Sanyo a big plus for their inventiveness in regard to Burn-Proof and to the new HD technology which doubles the Data capacity of a CD disc. I just don't have any evidence at this time of any success on their part with optical drives. Creating a technology that is used by many and building drives that work are two different things altogether.

You are totally wrong about Sanyo, LiteOn and bunch of other things. There are three components in any optical frive - motorized tray, optical pickup and logic/chipset. The phrase that LiteOn is the world's largest manufacturer of optical drives means nothing because LiteOn does not do any research, it does not make optical pickups or logic, all it does it takes third party optical pickup, third party logic, third party motorized tray, assembles it together and sells it. Sanyo on the other hand is the one who supplies logic and optical pickups to manufacturers like LiteOn to make their own drives.

Do you see the difference between assembling drives like LiteOn does and developing/researching logic behind the drive? True that Sanyo does not make its own drives but lots of other manufacturers use Sanyo logic in their drives, Plextor is the one (have you ever heard of Plextor)?

 

[conehead433]

Personally I'm not too concerned about being able to read HD discs with other drives. I do a lot of archiving on CD discs and if I am able to double the capacity of each Data disc and be able to access that information error free then I will end up using something near half the discs. Considering the price of archiving on DVD discs this represents a considerable amount of savings when you can buy quality CD-R's AR or on sale for cheap.

 

[Fuboy]

Originally posted by: conehead433
OK I'm pretty sure that I'm not stupid... blah blah blah...

I don't care if you've heard of Sanyo or not or if you buy that DVD drive or not. I was just trying to inform you.

 

[conehead433]

OK I'm informed and enlightened now, but no one here has come up with any evidence whatsoever that Sanyo makes reliable and market proven optical drives. So I'll still be waiting on the reviews and users' testimonies. Thanks for all the information.

 

[Ginta]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: GetInMyFatBelly
Isn't a resellers rating of 8.57 great?

yes, it is

I didn't make it clear in my first post but Accupc resellerratings only has 22 reviews so far and the oldest being March of this year. Other than the short track record, they are off to a good start.

 

[Esquire]

i pulled the trigger had 2