HOT HOT Compaq Pro workstation dual Xeon-Dual Monitor Card for $999 - DEAL OVER

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GetReal

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<< From the performance graph...i think my single xp 1900 would beat this system: )or atleast be the same...since the one in the comparisom is a 1.2ghz.

i am happy
>>



Not hardly. Not to start a flame war but there is a reason that you do see AMD XP processors in engineering workstations especially those that support specialized SMP applications such as 3D studio or Maya. How many of the major OEMs produce AMP based engineering workstations? Let me answer - NONE! The XP processor family is great for the market that it is designed and will beat Intel hands down in that market, but for engineering apps, the XP is a bit out of its league.
 

kulki

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Are dual processors that much faster? After all many things that we run cannot be run in parallel. So it it worth spending money for a dual processor?
 

manly

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<<

<< From the performance graph...i think my single xp 1900 would beat this system: )or atleast be the same...since the one in the comparisom is a 1.2ghz.

i am happy
>>



Not hardly. Not to start a flame war but there is a reason that you do see AMD XP processors in engineering workstations especially those that support specialized SMP applications such as 3D studio or Maya. How many of the major OEMs produce AMP based engineering workstations? Let me answer - NONE! The XP processor family is great for the market that it is designed and will beat Intel hands down in that market, but for engineering apps, the XP is a bit out of its league.
>>



The Athlon XP isn't out of its league. The fact that major OEMs don't build engineering workstations with the Athlon XP just shows how much clout and marketing superiority Intel has, particularly in the more lucrative market segments.

For example, Dell has a sweetheart deal with Intel for CPUs and basically is immune to price cuts or excessive stock on hand (which shouldn't happen anyway w/ BTO).

By your account, dual P3 engineering workstations from yesteryear (i.e. this Compaq one for example) would be obselete, since roughly speaking, a similarly configured uni-processor Athlon XP 1900+ box would stack up pretty well against this Compaq box.

As another example, should we conclude, based on Athlon's minor acceptance in corporate circles (and again similarly its non-acceptance by the major OEMs), that the Athlon line-up is not well-suited for business use?

No, most benchmarks have shown that since its inception, the Athlon has been a better general-purpose CPU than Intel's concurrent offering.

In conclusion, the line used to be "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" and now it's "Nobody ever got fired for buying Wintel".

 

Kwad Guy

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Once again, you're looking at the wrong thing. The AMD processors
are fine and I'd dare say no one would get fired for buying
AMD processors...The Achilles heal of the AMD line is the chipset
support. VIA chipsets have traditionally been trouble-prone, bug
laden affairs. Intel chipsets, on the other hand, with a few
rare but well publicized exceptions (the 820 SDRAM/MTH problem
being the most well known) are known for stability and compatibility.

No, you wouldn't lose your job over the AMD processor. But you might
lose your job over the VIA chipset. THAT is the problem with AMD.

And don't tell me that after 923 revisions of the BIOS and 117
workaround advisories the blahdyblah VIA chipset is "great". That's
of no consequence in the enterprise environment, where even one
day of downtime can sometimes be a catastrophe...The motto of
the enterprise environment: Set and forget. If IS has to deal
with stabilities of any kind that originate with problems with the
motherboard (or the flavor of the week motherboard drivers in the
case of VIA), someone is going to be screaming, someone else is
going to be pulling their hair out, and someone else is going to
be telling purchasing that under no circumstances shall any VIA/AMD
combination EVER come through the doors again.

Kwad
 

wferrari

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Today I've received the workstation. It came with the PC800 RDRAM instead of the PC600. From an aestetic point of view the case doesn't look too shabby, but it rocks when it comes to features. The design of the CPU's cooling system is really impressive, with very generous heatsinks. It's very spacious and HEAVY. The packaging box was so huge, that I could fit inside (I'm 6 feet 7). I don't want to guess what shipping costs I spared. I still have to run it, but I can tell this is even a better offer than the Gateway Server 6400 (that I also have).

I just have the following question: Did anyone that jumped on this deal received a mouse with the PC? mine was missing.
 

Cheese78CA

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*wishes this thread would die so the painful memory of passing up on this killer deal may ease...*
 

wferrari

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<< *wishes this thread would die so the painful memory of passing up on this killer deal may ease...* >>



sorry about that!

(ops, I did it again)
 

ashneel

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<< Today I've received the workstation. It came with the PC800 RDRAM instead of the PC600. From an aestetic point of view the case doesn't look too shabby, but it rocks when it comes to features. The design of the CPU's cooling system is really impressive, with very generous heatsinks. It's very spacious and HEAVY. The packaging box was so huge, that I could fit inside (I'm 6 feet 7). I don't want to guess what shipping costs I spared. I still have to run it, but I can tell this is even a better offer than the Gateway Server 6400 (that I also have).

I just have the following question: Did anyone that jumped on this deal received a mouse with the PC? mine was missing.
>>




nice i know its better then the Gateway Server 6400 deal much better deal with 3 years and 2 cpu's good luck with your new system i wanted one but i always want everthing lol..


 

Venomous

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<< If you're looking for raw speed, it doesn't take a brain surgeon
to figure out that dual 1.5ghz AMD processors are going to pack
more juice than dual 933Mhz Intel processors. HOWEVER, if stability
and reliability are worth something, then the Intel 840 based
motherboard has it all over the VIA chipsets that support AMD
>>



Lay your crack pipe down.

#1, show me proof that an Intel based machine is MORE stable then an AMD based one, whether it uses VIA or an AMD chipset. Its lames like you that continue to live a sheltered life.

#2, Multi Processor AMD based system slaps the ever living $hit out of an Intel based one. Not only does it anihilate a Dual P3, it practically rapes a Xeon based system, even clocked lower.

#3, Dual AMD systems use AMD 760MP/760MPX chipsets. So where does VIA play into this? Your lack of education and knowledge is showing.

So, get your head out of your ass. AMD systems are just as reliable and stable, if not more then your beloved Intel ones. Not to mention, perform better at a lower price.
 

StaplesSucks

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Just got a call from compaq!
These are all out of stock, and they wont be getting anymore.
Damn tigerdirect bought them all!
 

Hgabriel

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This is good news. If Compaq is all out of stock, that means our orders get bumped up to the next model. We are going to get badassh workstations.
 

swifty

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Thanks for the update - I heard nothing new from compaq - let me know if you get a better workstation
 

damn

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Thanks IgoByte - your right - can be for far less - and that is like u said if you need dual head display
 

StaplesSucks

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Ba$tards WILL NOT SUBSTITUTE! They said "they were only good while supplies last!"
Thank tigerdirect dot com for buying all of them and reselling them for 1299!
 

crontab

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It took about 2 weeks for them to send me my SP750. I ordered it on 12/13/01 and got it on 12/31/01. Sweet box for an even sweeter price.

-crontab -l
 
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