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osiris3mc

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I certainly can't afford these items now, but hey, one day, why not? I don't think anyone can say that if they had the money, they'd still be shopping at Gap or whereever. I'll be the first one to admit, when the good money starts rolling in (still in school), there is no reason not to look nice is designer clothing. Simply put, it looks better, on anyone. For those of you who buy Hilfiger and think that's nice (you kidding me?), you need to open your eyes.
 

OsSpengler

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I fully agree with ovenmit: The difference between a quality garment and a sweatshop garment is readily apparent. As Departures magazine quoted a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, "It'd be easy for me to go from a BMW to a Porsche, but from Kiton to anything else. . . impossible."

Please peruse this latest article from the Robb Report Magazine to get an idea for how you get what you pay for.

And for those of you who have never enjoyed the basic luxuries of fine couture,--woe to you!--please enter your nearest Saks and try some of this on! You'll never go back.
 

MeanMeosh

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that's a good deal considering saks rarely ever goes on sale. for those of you who ask what the difference is.... one of my relatives bought me a nice $250 dress shirt from saks for my birthday, and i bought myself a $30 dress shirt on sales from foleys a month after. after a year and a half, the saks shirt still looks nice as hell and looks brand new, whereas the foleys shirt doesnt.

a good deal is a good deal no matter what. this just happens to be a good deal for those who can afford it.
 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: OsSpengler
Ok, to fend off the critics: First: you can't put a price on quality. Much of the "inexpensive" clothing on the market (Gap, Polo etc.) is made in south-east Asian sweatshops by child labor. These clothes are completely machine made; of poor fabric; and of inferior construction. They are made for an American market, meaning they are generally two sizes too large, and they have the fit of a paper-bag. Contrast that with an Italian-made Brioni shirt: hand-sewn, single needlepoint stitching, soft luxurious fabrics, mother-of-pearl buttons, and a form-fitting shape. Second: price is all relative. I'm amazed that you find these prices so excessive: I have a colleague who spends upwards of $8,000 on bespoke (custom-made) Kiton suits. That I find a tad excessive. Third: I probably have a NYC-centric view of the fashion world. But so it goes. edit: Fourth: yes, I agree with the above poster that you're paying for an "eliteness" to an extent. But that is fashion. I'm willing to pay a bit more to wear the cutting edge in the sartorial world. There is an element of exclusivity to fashion; after all, it's not fashionable if everyone else in the world is wearing it. For example, a Gucci sweater may cost $1,800 at the flagship NYC store. This sweater perhaps cost them $50 to make. However, you're buying a position as one of the most fashion-conscious people in the world. Now, I don't buy Gucci because I think it's a rip off, and I think it means "fashion-victim" personified. But brands like Canali, Brioni, Kiton, etc.--all of these brands justify their prices with the quality of their craftsmanship. Maybe these rules don't apply online, but you're often what you wear.



The surprising thing that many don't realize is that some of the nice clothes really are worth what they cost. They last for years and years, and the whole time they provide a really nice feel when you wear them. If only I had the dough now, but sooner or later I will.


Edit: After looking at the sweater I think it is a bit overpriced for what it is, but that Canali sportcoat makes me wish I had $895 lying around - absolutely stunning. The Varvatos jeans are a nice deal if those are your style.
 

Noirish

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I know an overpriced item when I see one.

$500 sweater?
No, I buy sweater around $25.
$130 jeans?
No, I buy them around $30.

I know there are T-shirts selling for thousands, but I think they are made for rich people who want to brag but really have no sense of value.
 

osiris3mc

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Originally posted by: orangel


$500 sweater?
No, I buy sweater around $25.
$130 jeans?
No, I buy them around $30.

And I'll bet a girl has never pulled either of those items off you!!! (Simply a joke guys, don't take it too seriously!)

 

conehead433

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I got a nice suede bomber jacket for $24.76. Looks like I can purchase a few more items for what I would pay at Saks for anything.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Ruhnie
It's all about the price point of diminishing returns. The only argument towards these "fine clothing" that justifies the price is that it is a status symbol, plain and simple. There can be no real logical reason for spending that much on clothing. And surely you didn't expect to find alot of people in this forum who would shop there. We are generally techies who are looking for good deals, not overpriced stuff that's still a rip-off when it's marked down. This has gotta be the funniest thread I've ever read here!

Actually, its not about the price point of diminishing returns. It's about consumer surplus, an economic concept you might have encountered sometime. Remember that downward sloping demand curve? Well, the target market for this good is those consumers whose demand falls on that curve very close to the Price intercept. Economically, I don't see any problem with the original poster buying these goods. Some producer has them on the market because a segment exists that will buy them. I say go capitalism.

Personally, the prices are excessive. But he's right about the quality and the fit. I can't afford these on my own (I'm an economics student, flame away), but I do have a relative who works for a designer which I won't name. I might not be willing to shell out top dollar for the best video card out there, but I'd be willing to buy these clothes once my financial situation allows it. It's all about buying what maximizes your individual consumer surplus across all markets in which you participate.

For these particular goods, the OP did happen to find an excellent deal. You won't see these cheaper any time soon.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: osiris3mc
I certainly can't afford these items now, but hey, one day, why not? I don't think anyone can say that if they had the money, they'd still be shopping at Gap or whereever. I'll be the first one to admit, when the good money starts rolling in (still in school), there is no reason not to look nice is designer clothing. Simply put, it looks better, on anyone. For those of you who buy Hilfiger and think that's nice (you kidding me?), you need to open your eyes.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree with your statement. Half of fashion is what you're wearing, but the other half is how you wear it. You can look good in cheap clothes, because honestly, the average (and even above-average) of the fashion-conscious won't know its cheap if you carry yourself a certain way. Half of the game is confidence.

Of course, if you're more confident because it cost you more, go for it. There's nothing wrong with that.
 

puterman

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There IS a difference between more expensive clothing and cheaper clothing: the fit and cutting. A more expensive dress shirt/coat/sweater will "drape" (that's the term I believe) better than a cheaper one. Some of you might find that ludicrous; some will find it readily apparent. Go and try some expensive clothing on at Saks one day -- try some Ermengildo Zegna wool jackets on and compare the fit, styling and drap to those at stores like Banana Republic.

Now, I'm not saying *all* expensive clothing is better...some really do just sell the brand. And also, the line where the cost of the better fit/materials really is drawn by your income and your appreciation of clothes. Like someone else said, $400 for a video card or $800 for a 20" LCD monitor might seem ludicrous to others while they're struggling to understand how to "join the Internet."
 

jodhas

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Originally posted by: VaG
Originally posted by: 50
It's people like you who make me sick
I'm sure you cause the same reaction for many, while you're bebopping down the street with a gangsta limp in your XXL $30 red/white/blue Hilfiger sweater.

Don't stereotype. Don't be ignorant.
 

HemanC

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This is a hot deal but the brand I like are not on sale. Wish eLuxury will have a sale similiar to this.
 

rhacquer

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Not that I'm any kind of authority, but a burger flipper who spends his minimum wage on 10 karat bling bling and a 6+ figure/yr cat who goes out of his way to drop 5 bills on a sweater just to brag about the price... well, both are equally foolish with their money.

OTOH, if you're pulling in that kind of serious cash, you faithfully give to charity, and you're taking care of your business, and you just want to look good--well, knock yourself out, I guess.
 

Marauder-

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Originally posted by: monzi
Do the cloth's come with a bj from Heidi Klum?

If they did, I think this entire forum would be ordering clothes like no tomorrow! $500 - HOT DEAL
$1000 - HOT DEAL ... etc etc... lol

Anyways - it's pretty pointless to argue fashion in a tech forum. I was pretty amazed at the pricing myself when I was introduced / sucked in - $600 is definitely more than I afford / would be willing to spend - but I mean, you can definitely begin to see the quality once you move up even a little from the bulky chains.

Oh yeah - you could probably even do better at "Off Sak's Fifth"
 

hobbnet

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Hey,

I drive a Mazda Protege, a crappy $10,000 car. It gets great gas mileage and gets me from here to there without a problem.

But, I would much rather be driving a Mercedes SL 500 if I could afford it. The thing is, though, it would get me from here to there the same way the Mazda would. I would just feel better, the car looks better, and it drives better...But in the end they both do their jobs equally well.

So, logically I shouldn't pay 10x more for the Mercedes that does the same thing as the Mazda. But I sure as hell would be buying the Mercedes if I could.

The same thing goes for high quality clothes. But the cool thing with clothes is that the expensive, extremely nice clothes can be had for under $1,000 which makes it easier for a middle class american buy, as opposed to the $100,000 car.
 

drewdogg808

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good deal for those interested, but you posted it at the wrong place. 95% or more of the people on this forum stick with the most inexpensive clothes and could care less about designer clothing. they'd rather buy a high end video card.
 

Dedicated

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Sigh... yeah, I agree, the items here are probably not for the usual hot deal forum readers, but hey, a hot deal is a hot deal, and it takes an expert who knows the market prices and values to recognize a hot deal.
 

iwearnosox

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I use live angora rabbits to cleanse myself after an afternoon bowel movement. Sure I had to have my house's plumbing retooled to accomodate this, but it was worth it. There's nothing like the luxurious feeling of having bareback angora on my buttocks!

Well.. off for tea and crumpets!
 

Odarby

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Nov 23, 2003
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Wow,....I mean W-O-W!
How did a person that buys $500+ sweaters ever end up on this site?????
With all due respect what do you think the chances are?
Is this OP just out slummin?
Ya know, just trying to get a taste of what the other side is like.

Hey folks like this got to eat too, right?
This link might be of an intrest to them.....Food For The Fashion Minded-(Link)

Ha ha OP, jokes on us. Now roll up your limo window and move on.


 

Odarby

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Originally posted by: iwearnosox
I use live angora rabbits to cleanse myself after an afternoon bowel movement. Sure I had to have my house's plumbing retooled to accomodate this, but it was worth it. There's nothing like the luxurious feeling of having bareback angora on my buttocks!

Well.. off for tea and crumpets!

LMFAO!
 
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