Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
The 600m comes with a Radeon 9000, may not sound like much but its only slightly bigger than the 700m. A friend of mine has a 600m and it runs HL2 with details at medium decently so this is a pretty hot price.
I've been looking at cheap notebooks for the last few months. While it is true that some do come with 512MB, I would put the percentage at maybe 25% or less. So your "most" I don't think is true. Memory is usually the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, sometimes with rebates making the extra memory dirt cheap, so just because a budget has only 256MB, doesn't mean you can't upgrade easily and cheaply.Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
Originally posted by: SimMike2
I've been looking at cheap notebooks for the last few months. While it is true that some do come with 512MB, I would put the percentage at maybe 25% or less. So your "most" I don't think is true. Memory is usually the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade, sometimes with rebates making the extra memory dirt cheap, so just because a budget has only 256MB, doesn't mean you can't upgrade easily and cheaply.Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
Where this notebook is better than most $500 deals is the size and weight, which are less than average for budget notebooks. The battery is also fairly decent for a budget notebook.
Originally posted by: cmv
What is the deal on the Celeron M? I understand there are regular Celeron M and low power usage Celeron M models but it isn't clear which is which. Also, the major drawback to the Celeron M is the lack of support of SpeedStep yet they still seem to put in respectable battery life times. The other drawback is of course the smaller amount of cache (L2 1/2 equivalent P-m?).
I'm wondering how the battery life is with a Celeron M (1.4 or 1.5 Ghz) versus a Pentium M (typically higher Ghz).
I've been looking at laptops in this price range too and the 600M is attractive because it is small, the upgrade to SXGA+ screen is relatively inexpensive, and the battery life should be decent. I see there is the option for a secondary battery at $99. Alternatives I'm looking at are the Compaq V2000Z with a Turion but that only has a WXGA screen.
Originally posted by: Jeeper94
Originally posted by: cmv
What is the deal on the Celeron M? I understand there are regular Celeron M and low power usage Celeron M models but it isn't clear which is which. Also, the major drawback to the Celeron M is the lack of support of SpeedStep yet they still seem to put in respectable battery life times. The other drawback is of course the smaller amount of cache (L2 1/2 equivalent P-m?).
I'm wondering how the battery life is with a Celeron M (1.4 or 1.5 Ghz) versus a Pentium M (typically higher Ghz).
I've been looking at laptops in this price range too and the 600M is attractive because it is small, the upgrade to SXGA+ screen is relatively inexpensive, and the battery life should be decent. I see there is the option for a secondary battery at $99. Alternatives I'm looking at are the Compaq V2000Z with a Turion but that only has a WXGA screen.
I have been looking into this deal with the upgrade to SXGA+ and 64MB video ($100 upgrade). Do you think it would be somewhat easy or at least possible for a person that works on and builds desktop computers to buy and install a Pentium M CPU into this computer at a later date, possibly after the 90 warranty expires?
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
The 600m comes with a Radeon 9000, may not sound like much but its only slightly bigger than the 700m. A friend of mine has a 600m and it runs HL2 with details at medium decently so this is a pretty hot price.
Originally posted by: kki000
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
there's alot of cheap laptops around for 500ish
most come with 512mb ram, better to search and compare
The 600m comes with a Radeon 9000, may not sound like much but its only slightly bigger than the 700m. A friend of mine has a 600m and it runs HL2 with details at medium decently so this is a pretty hot price.
Also none of those 500ish laps are as light. With the plastic media tray, the 600m can weigh as little as ~4.5lbs
The radeon 9000 is also good enuff for wow, (at low rez/detail). Nothing too great, but its perfect if you need to raid on the road every now and then.
Also none of those 500ish laps are as light. With the plastic media tray, the 600m can weigh as little as ~4.5lbs.
Originally posted by: cmv
What is the deal on the Celeron M? I understand there are regular Celeron M and low power usage Celeron M models but it isn't clear which is which. Also, the major drawback to the Celeron M is the lack of support of SpeedStep yet they still seem to put in respectable battery life times. The other drawback is of course the smaller amount of cache (L2 1/2 equivalent P-m?).
I'm wondering how the battery life is with a Celeron M (1.4 or 1.5 Ghz) versus a Pentium M (typically higher Ghz).
I've been looking at laptops in this price range too and the 600M is attractive because it is small, the upgrade to SXGA+ screen is relatively inexpensive, and the battery life should be decent. I see there is the option for a secondary battery at $99. Alternatives I'm looking at are the Compaq V2000Z with a Turion but that only has a WXGA screen.
Originally posted by: RedGSR
as far as I know sxga just means max res. at 1280x1024 while xga means max res. at 1024x768. So sxga on a 14.1 inch screen is pretty much useless unless your eyes are as good as Superman's
Originally posted by: RedGSR
as far as I know sxga just means max res. at 1280x1024 while xga means max res. at 1024x768. So sxga on a 14.1 inch screen is pretty much useless unless your eyes are as good as Superman's
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RedGSR
as far as I know sxga just means max res. at 1280x1024 while xga means max res. at 1024x768. So sxga on a 14.1 inch screen is pretty much useless unless your eyes are as good as Superman's
typically you're sitting closer to the notebook's screen than a desktop. my 600m at 1400x1050 (sxga+) is perfectly easy to see. i hardly have the vision of superman (of course, it is corrected to better than 20/20 in my left eye, and about 20/20 in my right).
and yes, you can replace the modular bay drive with a plastic place holder (used to be called the airbay). i have one and i've never used in in almost 3 years of having my 600m.
the processor does not reside under a door in the bottom of the notebook. it is between the keyboard and the motherboard. it isn't particularly hard to get to, though. i've taken mine apart and applied arctic silver to it, and the radeon 9000. with 64 megs of ram it can play various games on low to medium settings (though last game i really played on it was the original call of duty, which it ran pretty well).
the processor is upgradable, but it may be cheaper just to do it through dell rather than buy one separately. frankly, my 1.4ghz runs pretty much everything just fine. it's getting a little long in the tooth for games, but then it's only a radeon 9000. i'd probably gain more battery life going from banias to dothan than any other measure.
battery life can be pretty good. using 3 batteries i was able to watch all of the indiana jones movies going across the atlantic. i had them in xvid on my hard drive. pick up batteries for cheap on ebay. battery life is likely better with the pentium-m than the celeron-m, as the p-m has speedstep, and iirc the celeron does not. but, after seeing the comparison between a full speed, but idle, pentium m770 (2.13 ghz) is only 9 watts (1.0 -> 9.9), battery life shouldn't be that much better with the p-m. remember, the celeron runs much slower at full speed so may draw 6 watts.