Hot or Super hot? Maxtor U160 73GB SCSI drive, 153$!

Manolo

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I don't know because I don't use SCSI, but for those of you that use SCSI this might be useful.


Smoking!


By the way, I rip this link from another board.
 

Walliser

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This deal has been discussed before, I don't have the link, but search for it.

There was some discussion regarding the specific drive. If I remember correctly there was two things that stood out: 1. it is not the newest generation drive and 2. it is higher than most modern SCSI drives.
There were some other things, but I don't remember those.

Regardless of it being a repost or not, it is a nice price for a decent SCSI drive.

A word of caution: before you jump on this, thinking this is your chance to enter the world of SCSI for cheap, better read up on SCSI and what you get with it.
 

Doomer

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Make sure you have room for this big boy and also consider the power comsumption. Might have to upgrade your ps to handle it.

btw - I ordered an IBM 73gig SCSI SCA 80 pin from unity without any problems.
 

yhelothar

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damn that drive is huge.. how many platters does that mofo have?

so according to anandtech's benchmark, the SCSI will lose to 7200RPM IDE drives on desktop realworld benchmarks?

 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
damn that drive is huge.. how many platters does that mofo have?

so according to anandtech's benchmark, the SCSI will lose to 7200RPM IDE drives on desktop realworld benchmarks?
Which benchmarks? I think you may be thinking of a single SCSI against ide RAID 0.
 

IgoByte

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I have to ask: What's the point? This drive is no fastern than the WD1200JB, and is about the same price. It's a smaller drive, yet physically larger and produces about twice as much heat as the WD1200JB.

Just not sure about SCSI anymore...
 

erickotz

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Originally posted by: IgoByte
I have to ask: What's the point? This drive is no fastern than the WD1200JB, and is about the same price. It's a smaller drive, yet physically larger and produces about twice as much heat as the WD1200JB.

Just not sure about SCSI anymore...

Of course there are faster drives than the 120JB. The seek times on most scsi drives kill the seek times of the 120JB. I'm willing to bet real-world continuous transfer rates do also. The 120JB only shines on small file bursts out of its cache.
Additionally, SCSI is more reliable. Drive's have 10x the MTBF of IDE drives and 5 year warranties. Not to mention they are built better. This doesn't even mention the ability to have up to 15 drives on a scsi chain, as opposed to the measily 2 of IDE. Lastly, SCSI will handle multitasking better because drives can retrieve data in a different order than requests come in, whereas IDE has a FIFO arrangement.
 

BigDady92

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I bought one of these puppies and put her in.

1. It does take up 2 3.5 bays in your computer. If you've got a computer with a few 3.5" bays then this will do for you

2. It's not too loud. It's scsi it's loud but not hurricane banshee loud.

3. It's fast. Shizniggle my britches she screams with WinXP on her. I had a 7200rpm U160 drive and this blows it out of the water.


So this is not your slim and sleek and quiet Porsche, this is a big fast powerful loud muscle car from the 70's Chevy Nova style...
 

mechBgon

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Hypermicro has the LSI Logic 64-bit-ready cards for $65 (bare card). You can get a rounded silver- or copper-mesh U160 cable with terminator for $16 + S/H from Coolerguys.com, or you can get the LSI with cable, terminator and driver disk for $90 from Hypermicro too.

The LSI is 64-bit ready and will also work in standard everyday 32-bit PCI slots like most of us have. I don't actually have one but I'd be open to getting one if I didn't have this covered already.
 

Delbert

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I remember centrix international had some cheap SCSI cards when we were all looking at the webramp firewall awhile back.

also, I have several New Adaptec U160 cables with term. PM me if your interested in $15 shipped.
 

COJones

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This is going to sound really stupid, but...

Don't you have to be really careful connecting cables with scsi to not get it wrong? I seem to remember a friend messing up on the cable connection and frying a scsi drive.
 

Walliser

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I did that with a Seagate IDE drive... don't ask me what I did, but it died that very moment.

Don't know about SCSI though. As goes with anything inside your computer: it is sensitive, so be careful.
 

EXman

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couldn't help myself I ordered one. 2nd day air Hope my HD lasts till it gets here.
 

GPz1100

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Called them up as well as maxtor to inquire about the warranty.

According to the tech I spoke to, all their products came with 5 yr warranty from date of manufacture.

Chances are these drives has been in distribution for at least 1-2 years, thus the reduced warranty.

Regardless, its a hell of a price for the drive.. Shipping is reasonable (well, somewhat) too. $7 to ship from CA to IL ground.

guess I can ebay my old 18G scsi.


Note, for those getting these, I would NOT use it as a boot drive. Use one of the newer ide w/8MB cache drives for that.
Use this as a drive to dump large files onto, or some huge data base
 

EXman

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this has 8mb cache read the fine print. you got it backwards...
Note, for those getting these, I would NOT use it as a boot drive. Use one of the newer ide w/8MB cache drives for that.

this drive will boot 3 times as fast as a IDE 8mb cache drive. I've had both very noticable differance. except my drive was 18gb. not to mention this drive will be replacing a dying WD JB drive only 14 months old too. a shame
 

Walliser

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I agree, I would use a SCSI drive as my boot drive any day, regardless of 2 or 8MB cache on the drive.
 

EXman

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I'll guess I'll be the only one getting this. c'mon y'all get your HD up to par with your fast CPU~!
 

bassoprofundo

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I bit the bullet and ordered here too. I had a free drive bay, and the SCSI world does get a little tiresome when you're forced to use multiple 18 and 9gb drives when your IDE-loving buddies have 120-200gb drives... 73 is perfect for me. I'll probably grab a 2nd one if all goes well here.
 

GrandVizor

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Originally posted by: erickotz
Originally posted by: IgoByte
I have to ask: What's the point? This drive is no fastern than the WD1200JB, and is about the same price. It's a smaller drive, yet physically larger and produces about twice as much heat as the WD1200JB.

Just not sure about SCSI anymore...

Of course there are faster drives than the 120JB. The seek times on most scsi drives kill the seek times of the 120JB. I'm willing to bet real-world continuous transfer rates do also. The 120JB only shines on small file bursts out of its cache.
Additionally, SCSI is more reliable. Drive's have 10x the MTBF of IDE drives and 5 year warranties. Not to mention they are built better. This doesn't even mention the ability to have up to 15 drives on a scsi chain, as opposed to the measily 2 of IDE. Lastly, SCSI will handle multitasking better because drives can retrieve data in a different order than requests come in, whereas IDE has a FIFO arrangement.

I agree.....
Man, I luv SCSI.......It really handle multitasking better than any available IDE drives.
 

labgeek

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Thanks for making me feel old... 1.6" high drive = "big boy" and "huge".

Back in my day... Actually my "biggest" drives personally were 2 IBM 10"ers - 16MB each! But then the machine was over 1000 lbs and required 220 just to run. And yes that was my own machine - Series 34. Here's someone who has a page with a similar machine - http://web.screenart.es/tomeu/mcomputers-S34.php3
 
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