HOT!!! Thermaltake 420W PurePower Dual Fan Power Supply $41.95 W/Free FedEx

[snowairg]

Originally posted by: Sesopedalian
it is very heavy, the best indication of a quality supply.

So if I bought a crappy $10 PS and put a whole bunch of lead in it and it weighed more than your new TT 420W, you'd think it's higher quality?

 

[SandInMyShoes]

LOL! The reason more weight tends to mean better power is the more caps and internal components, the cleaner the power it tends to produce... Compare a quality PSU from PC P&C and a generic, and the PPP&C will be noticibly heavier. And the PPP&C will put out cleaner power

 

[CherryBOMB]

Originally posted by: kellybrf
got mine today and it was also packed very well. only thing is that its a w0009, not w0009r. cant find it on tts website, anyone know what the difference is?

w0009 is active pfc right ,which is better than the w0009r and more expensive*!* If thats what you got then you got LUCKY ,I wish I knew they were going to send more W0009's out then I would Surely Jump On this..........

Edit: W0008 is active PFC model......

 

[kellybrf]

yeah, its def not active pfc. theres a marking on the side for it and its not checked.

from the specs this doesnt seem to be as good as my enermax 431w (its +5, +12 ,+3.3 is 40a, 18, 30 to the enermaxs 44, 20, 38) but it is heavier. anyone have any practical comparisons?

edit: one place is listing different specs for the w0009: 30, 25, 30, so higher +12 but lower 5/3.3. another site is listing it as active pfc. so basically im gonna keep this as my backup psu since my enermax is treating me well

 

[ProUser]

Has anyone seen a full on review for this thing anywhere? I was about to purchase an Antec TrueBlue 480 for $90 shipped, but at $45 shipped this power supply is looking very tempting.. that's half off what I was going to spend. But I am building a pretty powerful 2.4C machine and overclocking it pretty heavily.. don't want to get a crappy PS.

 

[SandInMyShoes]

Here is a review

 

[SandInMyShoes]

Seems to me it might have been posted before in this thread, but if not, here is another review of it.

 

[ninothing]

w00p - got one

 

[c627627]

IMHO, this is a much better deal, and I'll tell you why:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=58&manufactory=1919&description=&srchFor=FSP350-60BN

It is 350W instead of 420W but Fortron is one of the best most reliable power supply companies.

While other companies exaggerate the W on their PSU's, Fortron labels theirs at 70% output.

So the 350W Fortron is "rated to peak" at 440W but has been tested even higher...

That's why I think it's better than 420W Thermaltake power supply which in general are not as good as Fortron.

 

[SandInMyShoes]

Yeah, but how does the noise compare?

 

[illuminati]

If you are looking for a new PSU, I would definately consider this. I've had the Thermaltake 360W version with dual fans without PFC (so the same, just less watts) and have been very happy. I had it die on me once (completely my fault) and Thermaltake's RMA process is awesome... just email them, they email you back a form, you fill it out and email it back and in a few days you get a new PSU!... you don't have to send yours back first or anything like that.

So even if it's bad when you get it from knowledgemicro, you could just RMA it through Thermaltake.

 

[Johnbear007]

I would much rather spend on an Antec than get a fortron. The the termaltake is a good deal for what you get, but ifI don't get it, i'll just get the trueblue

 

[eliteorange]

whats the sound level in dB during normal load and peak ?

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: c627627
IMHO, this is a much better deal, and I'll tell you why:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=58&manufactory=1919&description=&srchFor=FSP350-60BN

It is 350W instead of 420W but Fortron is one of the best most reliable power supply companies.

While other companies exaggerate the W on their PSU's, Fortron labels theirs at 70% output.

So the 350W Fortron is "rated to peak" at 440W but has been tested even higher...

That's why I think it's better than 420W Thermaltake power supply which in general are not as good as Fortron.

Why "in general" do you think they are better? do you have links to dozens of reviews conducted on many different models over the period of years that we can use to establish this?

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: c627627
IMHO, this is a much better deal, and I'll tell you why:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=58&manufactory=1919&description=&srchFor=FSP350-60BN

It is 350W instead of 420W but Fortron is one of the best most reliable power supply companies.

While other companies exaggerate the W on their PSU's, Fortron labels theirs at 70% output.

So the 350W Fortron is "rated to peak" at 440W but has been tested even higher...

That's why I think it's better than 420W Thermaltake power supply which in general are not as good as Fortron.

Why "in general" do you think they are better? do you have links to dozens of reviews conducted on many different models over the period of years that we can use to establish this?

 

[Johnbear007]

Hmm one of those review units is the active PFC which this unit is NOT


So, how does this unit compare to the Antec Smartblue 350? which one is a better PSU as far as good clean stable poweR?

 

[clarkmo]

Heh, heh, there is a review roight here on Anandtech for the Fortron's.Just go to the front page. I have a 300w which was tested by Tom's and considered to be way underspecced. They got it up to 380w I believe before it blew. Of course, I am replacing it with this because it is loud, probably because I am using it fairly fully, 3 hd's, 5 fans,KT7 512mb, 2 opticals. So the psu fan is running high. The review here is well written and it points out which psu' will work better for which type processor, P4 or Xp

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: clarkmo
Heh, heh, there is a review roight here on Anandtech for the Fortron's.Just go to the front page. I have a 300w which was tested by Tom's and considered to be way underspecced. They got it up to 380w I believe before it blew. Of course, I am replacing it with this because it is loud, probably because I am using it fairly fully, 3 hd's, 5 fans,KT7 512mb, 2 opticals. So the psu fan is running high. The review here is well written and it points out which psu' will work better for which type processor, P4 or Xp

I just read that review. Fortron and Zalman came in together. The only reason fortorn really "won" is it's price.

So thats fine.

However, Thermaltake is mentioned with those two as being very strong, and no contest if you want something quiet.

So, unlike the previous poster suggested there is no reason to believe that a fortron is going to be FAR better, especially if you want something quiet.

I don't mind people having an opinion, but not when they intentionally mislead because of personal bias. (not refering to you, refering to the other guy.)

 

[clarkmo]

It was a different version Thermaltake.Rebadged what, I dunno, but...I am installing this tonite and I did buy it for it's silence. It's also the heaviest psu I've owned to date by far. I have a TTGI in another puter and it's a lightweight compared to this

 

[jna]

When overclocking my 2500+, the magic smoke came out of my 420W Turbolink (NOT Channelwell!) and it stopped working. I bought one of these to replace it a while back. It feels like a lead brick and is quieter than my case fans. With a "3400+" @ 1.9V, TI4200, WD1200JB, and 80GB D740X, voltage rails (measured with multimeter, not MB) stay within 5%.

PFC has less to do with you and more to do with the power grid. If you operate a commercial facility with hundreds of poor-PFC power supplies, then your power company may charge you extra. It's probably not worth spending money for otherwise.

http://www.microconsultants.com/tips/pwrfact/pfarticl.htm
http://www.vicr.com/support/apps-info/pdf/an1_active-pfc.pdf

 

[Samyo]

Originally posted by: jna
When overclocking my 2500+, the magic smoke came out of my 420W Turbolink (NOT Channelwell!) and it stopped working. I bought one of these to replace it a while back. It feels like a lead brick and is quieter than my case fans. With a "3400+" @ 1.9V, TI4200, WD1200JB, and 80GB D740X, voltage rails (measured with multimeter, not MB) stay within 5%.

PFC has less to do with you and more to do with the power grid. If you operate a commercial facility with hundreds of poor-PFC power supplies, then your power company may charge you extra. It's probably not worth spending money for otherwise.

http://www.microconsultants.com/tips/pwrfact/pfarticl.htm
http://www.vicr.com/support/apps-info/pdf/an1_active-pfc.pdf[/q

So this TT is no double better than the Turbolink 420W, right?

 

[jna]

Yes, the "Turbolink" 420W you most commonly find, is NOT the "Channelwell" 420W reviewed on Mikhailtech, and is garbage. There's a thread floating around called "Chieftech case and 420W PSU for $55" I think. Read it for user experiences.

 

[Johnbear007]

No one has yet given a good asnwer as to how this copares to an ANTEC Truepower,or Smart power.

I would be interested in knowing how they stack up

 

[c627627]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007: Why "in general" do you think they are better? do you have links to dozens of reviews conducted on many different models over the period of years that we can use to establish this?

Well, I read about a lot of experiences re different models here over the years:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=87e4ecc7dc9cf78d82fb6e8a516ab223&forumid=42

Originally posted by: Johnbear007: No one has yet given a good asnwer as to how this copares to an ANTEC Truepower,or Smart power.
I would be interested in knowing how they stack up

You're right about the noise. Antec is one of the best and of course among the quietest but it may come to "how much is quiet worth" for some:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=211413

Antec deal is difficult to find. If someone were to post it, we would head straight for it without discussing any of this.
Antec is better but it comes at a price.

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: c627627

Originally posted by: Johnbear007: Why "in general" do you think they are better? do you have links to dozens of reviews conducted on many different models over the period of years that we can use to establish this?

Well, I read about a lot of experiences re different models here over the years:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=87e4ecc7dc9cf78d82fb6e8a516ab223&forumid=42

Originally posted by: Johnbear007: No one has yet given a good asnwer as to how this copares to an ANTEC Truepower,or Smart power.
I would be interested in knowing how they stack up

You're right about the noise. Antec is one of the best and of course among the quietest but it may come to "how much is quiet worth" for some:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=211413

Antec deal is difficult to find. If someone were to post it, we would head straight for it without discussing any of this.
Antec is better but it comes at a price.

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. I see what you mean. It does look like fortron power supplies are a good value, however if you want a quiet PSU on the cheap, this thermaltake is pretty darn nice.

I was wondeirng what you might think of something like the Antec Smartblue 350. It goes for like 50$ at staples, which seems pretty good. it's a smart power 350W (with blue LEDs) How would it compare to something like this thermaltake 420, or the fortorn 350?

Thanks!