Hot? YMMV: Costco has Coke made with sugar cane

[Onund]

Originally posted by: gibster

Originally posted by: imaheadcase

Originally posted by: gibster
Soda makes you fat, gives you stomach problems, and you are on your way to diabetes. Enjoy!

Lets post random bs and call it fact! This internet post makes it true! /sarcasm

Heh, buddy, eyes don't lie. Look around yourself, and take note who is ordering the stuff in restaurants and buying it in stores, nuff said. The fact that the fast food places are pretty much there to sell soda is also a sad realization. Problem is soda makes too much money for powerful companies, and they don't give a damn what it does to the consumers, bah, the consumers don't care about it themselves! This makes it easy to let this go on, and then we wonder about where the obesity, diabetes, and heart attacks are coming from. Duh!

Man, gotta love these threads. I don't think I've seen a thread involving sugary foods or fast foods without someone saying it'll turn you into a fat, diabetic, heart attack victim.

gibster, I agree with you that Coke, Pepsi, fast food chain X, all care more about making a buck then about our health. As an example, I read an article a while back about McDonalds efforts to find a trans fat alternative, here's the quote I remembered
Jim Skinner, McDonald's Corp.'s chief executive:
"It's just taking a little bit of time because as we move forward, we don't want to jeopardize the iconic nature of the french fry, which as you know is so very important to our brand."
Full article
I thought during that 'Supersize Me' craze McDonalds was saying they're concerned about the health of their customers, no? Now the iconic nature of their fries is more important that the health of their customers?

Anyways, your comment was over the top. Pop does not make you fat and give you diabetes, excess does. Your average juice has roughly the same amount of calories per volume as your average pop. Should we also not drink juice?

 

[jsxlynn]

Uh... I wonder if you hold the coke made with sugar cane up to a light if it's cloudy? Consider that sugar cane is mostly water and fiber with, hmmm....sugar. So if it's clear then there is no fiber, and therefore there may be sugar derived from sugar cane, but there is no "sugar cane." Consider too that if raw sugar cane was utilsed then to make 1000 gallons of Coke, they'd need a vessel that held ten times as much due to the bulk of sugar cane--I think that they mean "derived from sugar cane, not really made with sugar cane. Deceptive or misleading at best....

Someone said that you can find the recipe for Coke online. You may be able to but you will likely (hopefully) be absent one of the ingredients--coca leaves. Yup Coke or coca cola is still made with coca leaves (the leaves that cocaine is derived from). Coke has the only permit to utilize and import coca leaves in the US--look it up if you don't believe.

As for me--I could care less if my coke has cane sugar, or beet sugar, all I want is four twelve-packs for ten $.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: gibster

Originally posted by: imaheadcase

Originally posted by: gibster
Soda makes you fat, gives you stomach problems, and you are on your way to diabetes. Enjoy!

Lets post random bs and call it fact! This internet post makes it true! /sarcasm

Heh, buddy, eyes don't lie. Look around yourself, and take note who is ordering the stuff in restaurants and buying it in stores, nuff said. The fact that the fast food places are pretty much there to sell soda is also a sad realization. Problem is soda makes too much money for powerful companies, and they don't give a damn what it does to the consumers, bah, the consumers don't care about it themselves! This makes it easy to let this go on, and then we wonder about where the obesity, diabetes, and heart attacks are coming from. Duh!

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[Basilisk]

While this thread is making a run for Lamest Deals-Thread of the Year, the OP was informative to me as I've long lamented the "New Coke" saga wherein Coke switched formula dropping sugar in the process, then took a market thumping, and finally introduced Coke Classic but -still- w/o the sugar. A big yucko to corn sweeteners, here. I'd love to try this product to see if it's as much improved over the corn-sweetened version as I've claimed... but that's No Deal given the Costco membership. Could someone mail me a can?!

The whole switch from sugar was a gift from business -- who wanted cheapo sweeteners -- and our government who had banned cheap Cuban sugar because of Castro and, IIRC, highly tariffed/quota'd the remaining Caribbean producers so as to support much pricier FL sugar growers [==Everglades polluters]. I'd be intrigued to find if Mexican producers are using Cuban sugar, but sugar's fungible so they'd probably claim is was "all Mexican sugar" just to avoid sanctions.

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: Onund

Originally posted by: gibster

Originally posted by: imaheadcase

Originally posted by: gibster
Soda makes you fat, gives you stomach problems, and you are on your way to diabetes. Enjoy!

Lets post random bs and call it fact! This internet post makes it true! /sarcasm

Heh, buddy, eyes don't lie. Look around yourself, and take note who is ordering the stuff in restaurants and buying it in stores, nuff said. The fact that the fast food places are pretty much there to sell soda is also a sad realization. Problem is soda makes too much money for powerful companies, and they don't give a damn what it does to the consumers, bah, the consumers don't care about it themselves! This makes it easy to let this go on, and then we wonder about where the obesity, diabetes, and heart attacks are coming from. Duh!

Man, gotta love these threads. I don't think I've seen a thread involving sugary foods or fast foods without someone saying it'll turn you into a fat, diabetic, heart attack victim.

gibster, I agree with you that Coke, Pepsi, fast food chain X, all care more about making a buck then about our health. As an example, I read an article a while back about McDonalds efforts to find a trans fat alternative, here's the quote I remembered
Jim Skinner, McDonald's Corp.'s chief executive:
"It's just taking a little bit of time because as we move forward, we don't want to jeopardize the iconic nature of the french fry, which as you know is so very important to our brand."
Full article
I thought during that 'Supersize Me' craze McDonalds was saying they're concerned about the health of their customers, no? Now the iconic nature of their fries is more important that the health of their customers?

Anyways, your comment was over the top. Pop does not make you fat and give you diabetes, excess does. Your average juice has roughly the same amount of calories per volume as your average pop. Should we also not drink juice?

Store-bought juice is the devil! You want that all natural stuff

 

[gibster]

Originally posted by: TecHNooB

Originally posted by: Onund

Originally posted by: gibster

Originally posted by: imaheadcase

Originally posted by: gibster
Soda makes you fat, gives you stomach problems, and you are on your way to diabetes. Enjoy!

Lets post random bs and call it fact! This internet post makes it true! /sarcasm

Heh, buddy, eyes don't lie. Look around yourself, and take note who is ordering the stuff in restaurants and buying it in stores, nuff said. The fact that the fast food places are pretty much there to sell soda is also a sad realization. Problem is soda makes too much money for powerful companies, and they don't give a damn what it does to the consumers, bah, the consumers don't care about it themselves! This makes it easy to let this go on, and then we wonder about where the obesity, diabetes, and heart attacks are coming from. Duh!

Man, gotta love these threads. I don't think I've seen a thread involving sugary foods or fast foods without someone saying it'll turn you into a fat, diabetic, heart attack victim.

gibster, I agree with you that Coke, Pepsi, fast food chain X, all care more about making a buck then about our health. As an example, I read an article a while back about McDonalds efforts to find a trans fat alternative, here's the quote I remembered
Jim Skinner, McDonald's Corp.'s chief executive:
"It's just taking a little bit of time because as we move forward, we don't want to jeopardize the iconic nature of the french fry, which as you know is so very important to our brand."
Full article
I thought during that 'Supersize Me' craze McDonalds was saying they're concerned about the health of their customers, no? Now the iconic nature of their fries is more important that the health of their customers?

Anyways, your comment was over the top. Pop does not make you fat and give you diabetes, excess does. Your average juice has roughly the same amount of calories per volume as your average pop. Should we also not drink juice?

Store-bought juice is the devil! You want that all natural stuff

Right on TecHNooB. And Onund, the problem is that excess in case of pop is so easy to reach (1 can is pretty much excessive as far as I see, not to speak of the giga-gulp cans people buy and swill down). I better quit before I get banned, though making even 1 person think about this and maybe change their ways is worth it, IMHO.

 

[allisolm]

I better quit before I get banned

Words for all to live by. Enough is enough. If any of you want to discuss soda's nutritional value or lack thereof, Off Topic is 6 forums up.

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[weepul]

Originally posted by: flashbacck
It's also available at the Seattle Costco.

Yep, I got a case last time from Issaquah:
http://www.krunk4ever.com/blog...07/29/hecho-en-mexico/

 

[deadken]

Nice deal and great for all of us who hate corn syrup.... But... Since I have been decafinated for YEARS, I won't partake in any. If anyone knows where to get Orangina or a decaf. Dr. Pepper please PM me. I have been dying for some Orangina and as for a Dr. Pepper, well honestly, I don't know if it could live up to how I remember it.

 

[kalipoo2000]

MMMmmmm sugar from sugar cane.


I bought orangina recently at my local grocery store. Yesterday I bought it at Trader Joe's.

 

[Havoc13]

Originally posted by: allisolm
I better quit before I get banned

Words for all to live by. Enough is enough. If any of you want to discuss soda's nutritional value or lack thereof, Off Topic is 6 forums up.

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allisolm

QFT!

So many pots with diarrhea mouth calling all the kettles black...

Back to your rutabaga ice cream vs. arugula sorbet argument somewhere else...



If you enjoy Coke splurge a bit, the sugar cane version is a nice treat.

 

[solariumrider]

FYI, corn syrup was only introduce into Coke and most soft drinks during the 80s. Before then, in the US, it was made with cane sugar. With the surplus of corn, High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) became cheaper that sugar cane...and then they switched. There is a big debate right now on whether HFCS is the reason why so many are getting fat and diabetes. Many other countries without weight problems do not use HFCS. I recommend the book "Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan if you are interested in reading about the great history of corn (and food today in general.)

Edit: Fixed author's name.

 

[imported_deathblow]

great post. I was unaware such a thing existed and would love to try it out.
does anyone know where you can find a good deal on this? the best price i can find online is $1.75 a bottle. Thats kind of high IMO.

 

[Chadder007]

I believe there is only like 1 or 2 plants that make Coke with sugar as apposed to corn syrup. I think its strange how they market them as being the same but with different ingredients.
The Sugar kind is usually sold in Texas, California and Mexico. Most every where else gets the crappy corn syrup version.

 

[NiNe]

As was pointed out in the 2nd reply, you can get the sugar-variety for the same price as the normal corn-syrup kind -- it's called "Kosher for Passover". Where I live (Boston), you can get this stuff almost all-year-round, not just for Passover. HFCS is non-Kosher, so Kosher Coke has to use cane sugar - i.e. Kosher is true Classic Coke. You don't have to go for Costco "Hecho en Mexico".

I ran a blind taste test at Easter with some friends & family. Most people could tell the difference. Some (most?) actually liked the corn syrup variety better, probably because it tastes sweeter. Regular corn syrup (almost 100% glucose and glucose chains) is enzymatically converted to 55% fructose, the most common variety of HFCS. HFCS is generally 55% fructose, 45% glucose. Regular sugar is 50/50. The approximate sweetness is 17 for fructose, 10 for sucrose and 7 for glucose. So with the same amount of sweetener, corn syrup coke tastes sweeter.

17 sweetness for fructose x .55 = 9.35 and 7 sweetness for glucose x 0.45 = 3.15.
9.35 + 3.15 = 12.5 for corn syrup vs. sugar.
That makes regular Coke about 25% sweeter tasting than Kosher ("original") Coke.

Try it sometime. If you live near a Kosher population (Boston, NYC, Chicago, etc.), you probably don't have to wait for Passover.

The irony to me is that Coke used to run ads when I was a kid that declared that Pepsi was sweeter tasting than Coke, i.e. made for kids. Bill Cosby was in a few of these ads, iirc. What's funny was that Pepsi was actually sweeter tasting, but only because they used HFCS while Coke used sugar. They couldn't claim that Pepsi had more sugar as Coke had the same amount of carbs from sugar, only that Pepsi tasted sweeter. But now Coke uses HFCS and are subject to the same criticism they once leveled at Pepsi. I guess "sweeter" isn't just for kids anymore.

In any case, I heard that HFCS saves like 1 cent per bottle of Coke. Multiplying 1 cent times millions of bottles does add up, however. Who know? With the current price spikes from ethanol-related market changes, maybe cane sugar will become cost-competitive again. Maybe ethanol markets will bring back true Classic Coke.

 

[Schadenfroh]

My local IGA has this (well, not sure if it an IGA anymore, I think they got bought out). The stuff is made in Mexico and I have had a few bottles of it. I cant really tell much of a difference between it and regular corn syrup based coke and I did not get sick.

I would not pay a premium for it over standard (corn syrup based) coke.

 

[DestruyaUR]

You don't need to put this much thought into it.

The 8oz glass bottles - I get mine at Sams Club - are typically hit or miss, but if you read the bottles, and it says "High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sucrose," it's sugared coke. They tend to get them in around October, and then it runs for however long the stock lasts.

 

[skljohnson]

Mods, plz delete this thread. For one it's not a hot deal. Who cares which coke tastes sweetest. It's a product of mexico, I think we have more than enough products from mexico in the US.

1. No
2. You don't get to decide that.
3. Lots of people in this thread do.
4. Then don't buy it.

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allisolm

 

[mechou]

Originally posted by: skljohnson
Mods, plz delete this thread. For one it's not a hot deal. Who cares which coke tastes sweetest. It's a product of mexico, I think we have more than enough products from mexico in the US.

Dude, are you daft? Almost all hot deals posted here are for products made in places other than the US (think about all those Newegg deals). Are you advocating we delete all these other threads too?

 

[dud]

My father died in 2003 after 25 hospital visits over the last three years of his life.

The first question I was ALWAYS asked when admitting him into the hospital:

"Does he have DIABETES?"

My answer:

"No, but he has everything else ..."

 

[RBC]

Cane sugar does really make a difference in soft drinks - if you like root beer, then some time, take a can or bottle of A&W and go to an A&W restaurant if you have on near you. Order a root beer there (in a frosty mug) and compare it to what it tastes like out of a can. Both have the same ingredients with the exception that the owners of the restaurants make their version of A&W with 100% bottlers grade cane sugar while the bottle and can stuff from the grocery store is made with 100% HFCS. Big difference IMO.

A community of gourmet soft drinkers that consider cane sugar a 1st passage of entry in to the classification of quality soft drinks can be found at www.bevnet.com

As an example of the growing re-interest in the cane vs HFCS, earlier this year, Jones Soda announced that they were reformulating their entire line of products with cane sugar. You can now find a lot of their old HFCS sweetened inventory at Big Lots stores for around 25 cents a bottle.

 

[iwearnosox]

Coke makes their soda with cane sugar domestically during passover, just look for one with the yellow cap.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: msi1337
if it is made in Mexico..and you can't drink the water in Mexico.. does that make this "un-safe"?

I spent a lot of time in Mexico and never drank the water but did drink tons of Mexican Coca-Cola and never got sick. As long as the water is treated(which it is), you will be fine.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: skljohnson
Mods, plz delete this thread. For one it's not a hot deal. Who cares which coke tastes sweetest. It's a product of mexico, I think we have more than enough products from mexico in the US.

1. No
2. You don't get to decide that.
3. Lots of people in this thread do.
4. Then don't buy it.

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[d3n]

High Fructose Corn syrup is some kind of unholy sugar as far as your body is concerned. In myh mind if your on a diet your better of using sugar than eating anything with HFCS in it. Just my two cents.