It has nothing to do with being attractive to people, like I said pets.com was attractive to people but in the long run it wasn't financially viable. Cali is about to hose folks with pensions so its not like they have tons of money to spend and then find out the ROI will not cover the cost.
What do you mean fake wealth? Wealth is assets minus liabilities - nothing fake about it most Americans are poor. And will be really poor soon as FOOD and FUEL prices are rising and will rise to such high levels sucking away any excess spending and eventually cause systematic break downs in social, legal, political, and economic systems like in EVERY nation that tried to print its way out of an insolvency for the past few thousand years. Prepare.Remember too, that pushing people, who could not afford it, into HOMES was a good idea. It made them wealthy, part of the American dream, what could possibly go wrong?
Government stimulus is nothing more than the next housing bubble. Dems are asking for a freaking disaster if they keep the economy inflated for very long. You cannot avoid the pain of higher unemployment, you can only delay it and make it worse.
Something worse is exactly what the stimulus is providing. Short term is all fun and full of pretty numbers. If you consider a flat-lined economy good. Long term is the collapse of the economy. Nothing like this country has ever seen.
You will beg for a great depression, should we not cut and cut deep. Fake wealth has to end.
How about from San Diego to Oxnard or even Santa Barbara for that matter.What they SHOULD be doing is concentrating on areas like the Northeast Corridor.
This is certainly a good start. Maybe they can cut some more. Seems like republicans are doing what The People want. Most of the cuts are in wasteful or unnecessary programs.
http://www.usnews.com/news/washingt.../house-gop-lists-25-trillion-in-spending-cuts
It will take both parties to generate a balanced budget.
I do not think that either is going to allow it to happen by 2012, to many sacred items would be on the chopping block.
Better to have the Republicans ("being in control to a point w/ respect to proposal") start the trimming with what they can muster. When the Republicans are no longer in control, then let the Dems continuing the chipping cycle on what they can muster.
A little of each end will whittle down to the middle and not shock the economy/system.
In the first two year of Obama, the Dems did not whittle down anything, so let the Republicans attempt to do so.
Failure to get the chipping done means no reelection.
Oh, gee. All of these cuts are essentially affecting programs that almost exclusively benefit the poor and middle class. What a surprise for a bill written by the Grand Old rich-people's Party.
And what cuts would affect the ultra wealthy?
The state has to grow it's transportation infrastructure somehow in the next 20 years to address the coming 30% increase in population. Judging by the environmental opposition that even HSR runs into that future is not going to be more and wider highways. That pretty much leaves airport expansion as the only feasible option and that also costs billions and takes years, plus you are still at the mercy of the petroleum market.
defense spending?
You still haven't answered my questions.
I saw that X2 in Stratford, my wife works and we went to the open house.Big cuts need to come out of the defense budget and cutting out some of the more exotic programs needs to happen. The F-35B needs to just be scrapped. Sikorsky is already working on turning their X2 into a attack helicopter, this would be far superior for Marines than a fixed wing underperforming jet and would help replace aging cobra frames.
So whats the democrats / liberal plan to reduce the deficit?
Do they have anything besides raising taxes on the rich and cutting defense? (I'm seriously asking)
People were bitching that the republicans wouldn't cut anything and now theres a plan to cut more than what they promised.
Now that they are putting this on the table people will criticize the things they want to cut, they'll say how we "need" all of these things.
So whats the democrats / liberal plan to reduce the deficit?
Do they have anything besides raising taxes on the rich and cutting defense? (I'm seriously asking)
So whats the democrats / liberal plan to reduce the deficit?
Do they have anything besides raising taxes on the rich and cutting defense? (I'm seriously asking)
It's an honest place to start, with people who can easily afford to pay more and who gain the greatest benefit from America, and with what are obviously bloated and dangerous military programs.
Anything short of a balanced budget by 2012 I will consider to be a failure of the republicans to meet their campaign promises and responsibilities.
Government provides services, which we vote on through our elected representatives. Such services make the country, for lack of a better term, work. It makes much more economic and practical sense to tax those who make more at a higher rate with a progressive, as opposed to regressive, tax scheme. You cannot squeeze blood from a turnip. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue, but common fucking sense.Stopped right there. America doesn't GIVE, government doesn't give.
fucking liberal
Pay attention people, this is the mind of a fucking liberal democrat. This is how they think, this is who they are, this is what they are. Pay attention to their postings on the internet. Realize that they can vote. Does that motivate you to take time from your job to vote? I know you're too busy trying to put food on the table for your family, but this is what you are up against.
Remember, this is what we're up against.
Government provides services, which we vote on through our elected representatives. Such services make the country, for lack of a better term, work. It makes much more economic and practical sense to tax those who make more at a higher rate with a progressive, as opposed to regressive, tax scheme. You cannot squeeze blood from a turnip. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue, but common fucking sense.
Spidey, stop with the us-vs-them bullshit. It gets old. This is why nobody in this day and age can have an honest discussion/debate in areas where they disagree even in the slightest. Your rhetoric is poisonous to American political discourse.
Pay attention people. This is the mind of a liberal. This is how they think, this is who they are, this is what they believe. You see it constantly in this forum. If you disagree your speech and "rhetoric" is poisonous to discourse.
Which is nothing more than "you're free to speak your mind, as long as you agree". It's the progressive way. So thanks for proving my point.
Stopped right there. America doesn't GIVE, government doesn't give.
fucking liberal
Pay attention people, this is the mind of a fucking liberal democrat. This is how they think, this is who they are, this is what they are. Pay attention to their postings on the internet. Realize that they can vote. Does that motivate you to take time from your job to vote? I know you're too busy trying to put food on the table for your family, but this is what you are up against.
Remember, this is what we're up against.
It's an honest place to start, with people who can easily afford to pay more and who gain the greatest benefit from America, and with what are obviously bloated and dangerous military programs.
The problem with having a huge standing military is that sooner or later some damned Neocon fools will use it as something other than a deterrent or in response to real actions by a foreign govt.
And people whose incomes are measured in hundreds of thousands per month will clearly suffer no real hardship from higher taxes.
If low taxes at the top stimulate job creation, we should be seeing lots of it, but we're not. Why not? Because trickle down supply side Reaganomics was a scam from the start, supported only by the illusions created with deficit spending. No deficits, no illusions, and Rebubs will only spite themselves when going there.
Without changes in that regard, necessity can't be claimed wrt cuts in programs that feed & house children, elderly and disabled people, or in the effect of turning out tens of thousands of govt workers into an empty job market.
Be careful what you wish for, boneheads, because you just might get it, and it won't be what you expected it to be, at all.
Pay attention people. This is the mind of a liberal. This is how they think, this is who they are, this is what they believe. You see it constantly in this forum. If you disagree your speech and "rhetoric" is poisonous to discourse.
Which is nothing more than "you're free to speak your mind, as long as you agree". It's the progressive way. So thanks for proving my point.
Lets say you can cut defense by $200B a year and we throw in raising taxes on the rich for another $75B a year for a total of $275B a year. If you combined that with the Reps plan and we haven't even closed half of the gap.
The fact of the matter is that mandatory spending is currently consuming almost ALL of our revenue and that spending is only going up. The above is a nice start but we must cut into entitlements if we want to get even close to a balanced budget. There simply is no way around it.
As I offered, when America's wealthier and wealthiest citzens are paying pre-Reagan tax rates, and when military expenditures come down to reasonable levels, the idea of other reductions in spending become reasonable. Not until.