House Passes 1/6 Commission

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eelw

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I wish the committee did cover the security break down. Well let’s see if anything in the final report. Show how under orders from the orange monkey that capitol police were ordered to not be armed with lethal weapons. And provide clear procedures that Pelosi had no role to organizing the security. Deflate this new committee even before it’s started.
 
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SMOGZINN

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I wish the committee did cover the security break down. Well let’s see if anything in the final report. Show how under orders from the orange monkey that capitol police were ordered to not be armed with lethal weapons. And provide clear procedures that Pelosi had no role to organizing the security. Deflate this new committee even before it’s started.
This committee is not going to do anything useful. McCarthy is still buthurt that he was not allowed to appoint the people the Jan 6th committee was investigating to the Jan 6th committee, and even though the Jan 6th committee had republicans on it, he is claiming it was a fully partisan committee and is going to 'get revenge' by making a fully partisan committee to investigate the committee. I'm betting Marjorie Taylor Greene will head the committee, and in the end it will find that it was Hunter Biden's Laptop that attacked the capitol.
 

eelw

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How much rehashing will we hear? Also can bury any talking points Repugnicans plan to use in their committee in January?
 

Fenixgoon

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CNN seems to think the committee will make criminal referrals to the DOJ.

While I get that those don't mean anything in a sense - they're not actual indictments and the DOJ can ignore them - I hope it is essentialy the greenlight for Jack Smith.

Now you have a special prosecutor, with no ties to the administration, acting on Congressional referral to indict trump. That's about as far from "political witch hunt" as you can get. Of course conservatives and trump will claim that no matter what. But this would provide a solid record of impartiality.
 
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UNCjigga

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Trump referred to DOJ on “at least” 4 possible criminal charges. They didn’t read through all of those or possible accompanying process charges—final report is out on Wednesday it seems.

1. Obstruction of an Official Proceeding (relating to Congress' joint session to certify the election on January 6 and Trump's actions prior to and during the insurrection, including pressuring Mike Pence to delay the count)

2. Conspiracy to defraud the United States of America (relates to the above but also specifically the plan to appoint Jeffrey Clark Acting AG and then tell state legislatures to appoint a new slate of electors)

3. Conspiracy to make a false statement (actually submitting false slates of electors in multiple states--I assume multiple instances for submitting these fake electors both to Congress and the Archives)

4. Assisting, Aiding and Comforting insurrection against the United States of America (summoning the violent mob to DC on J6 and other actions/inactions when things got violent)

Also referred are five other henchmen: Giuliani, Meadows, Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, and Kenneth Chesebro.

Lots of unfinished business—phone record subpoenas left hanging, plenty of missed interviews or missed opportunities to compel testimony via subpoena, and no idea what those pipe bombs on J6 were about.

EDIT: Clarified the actual criminal referrals based on my reading of the executive summary.
 
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pete6032

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I'm surprised this isn't getting more coverage. It's on the front page of news websites but not "full page" by any means.
 

sportage

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This is what pisses me off about the whole thing, and pisses off everyone else too, and why no one cares..... because after all this evidence and after all the public hearings the bottom line comes down to NOTHING. Never mind. Forget it.
Nothing the committee has done and nothing the committee recommend means nothing. Nada. This dog has no teeth.

Merrick Garland does not have to do ANYTHING. Not one thing about it. Trump's accountability is still nowhere to be seen. And all that this process has done is to make it even easier for republicans to yell WITCH HUNT. And Trump has called it a witch hunt. And they can get away with calling this a witch hunt because the recommends are pointless, the referrals are pointless, everything is totally pointless if Donald Trump is not held accountable. And guess what... Trump will not be held accountable.

Do you really think Merrick Garland is going to go after Donald Trump as an active republican presidential candidate? No way.
All this comes down to is more proof for republicans to claim that this was all a witch hunt. This is what they will say.

But you know what will matter? What will really matter?
When the new republican controlled house goes after Merrick Garland and goes after the house committee members starting in January 2023. THAT will lead to real hurt for Garland and for democrats.
House republicans will waste no time going after Garland, placing Garland on trial, and then doing the same for every member of the Jan 6th committee. Unlike with democrats and Merrick Garland, house republicans will take no prisoners. Garland will lose his job, the investigations into Trump will come to a halt, and Marjorie Taylor Greene will rule the day. Case closed.
 
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eelw

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House republicans will waste no time going after Garland, placing Garland on trial, and then doing the same for every member of the Jan 6th committee. Unlike with democrats and Merrick Garland, house republicans will take no prisoners. Garland will lose his job, the investigations into Trump will come to a halt, and Marjorie Taylor Greene will rule the day. Case closed.
Cool. The spineless wannabe speaker is going to get past Schumer to remove everyone the house impeaches. Cool he’s in control of the DOJ and will halt all orange monkey investigations. As for MTG, I’m thinking the rest of the party will get sick of her in a few months and actually get rid of her themselves.
 

sportage

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When you have people like Mike Pence, knowing damn well what he went thru back on Jan 6th, but when you have Mike Pence still saying in public, "I'm proud of what the president and I accomplished during the Trump administration" and refusing to testify, you know something is really really wrong with these people.

The house republicans will go after the democrats, Garland, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden 24/7 until they draw blood.
House republicans will make the Jan 6th committee look like a Girl Scout meeting.
 
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Fenixgoon

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This is what pisses me off about the whole thing, and pisses off everyone else too, and why no one cares..... because after all this evidence and after all the public hearings the bottom line comes down to NOTHING. Never mind. Forget it.
Nothing the committee has done and nothing the committee recommend means nothing. Nada. This dog has no teeth.

Merrick Garland does not have to do ANYTHING. Not one thing about it. Trump's accountability is still nowhere to be seen. And all that this process has done is to make it even easier for republicans to yell WITCH HUNT. And Trump has called it a witch hunt. And they can get away with calling this a witch hunt because the recommends are pointless, the referrals are pointless, everything is totally pointless if Donald Trump is not held accountable. And guess what... Trump will not be held accountable.

Do you really think Merrick Garland is going to go after Donald Trump as an active republican presidential candidate? No way.
All this comes down to is more proof for republicans to claim that this was all a witch hunt. This is what they will say.

But you know what will matter? What will really matter?
When the new republican controlled house goes after Merrick Garland and goes after the house committee members starting in January 2023. THAT will lead to real hurt for Garland and for democrats.
House republicans will waste no time going after Garland, placing Garland on trial, and then doing the same for every member of the Jan 6th committee. Unlike with democrats and Merrick Garland, house republicans will take no prisoners. Garland will lose his job, the investigations into Trump will come to a halt, and Marjorie Taylor Greene will rule the day. Case closed.
And exactly how would the republican house do any of that?
Their committees and investigations will be just as toothful - or toothless - as J6C in that sense. And let's not forget it will all be a Benghazi circus again.
And even if they impeach every single member of the J6 and Garland - why would a Democrat controlled Senate vote to impeach? No way they'd ever clear a 2/3 vote
 

eelw

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And even if they impeach every single member of the J6 and Garland - why would a Democrat controlled Senate vote to impeach? No way they'd ever clear a 2/3 vote
Harris has formed an alliance with the spineless one. Impeach Biden so she can become POTUS and she’ll name him VP. And Schumer will be both house speaker and senate majority leader. They’ll do Jan 6 the proper way. Well this is probably what sportage is thinking.
 

Fenixgoon

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Harris has formed an alliance with the spineless one. Impeach Biden so she can become POTUS and she’ll name him VP. And Schumer will be both house speaker and senate majority leader. They’ll do Jan 6 the proper way. Well this is probably what sportage is thinking.
That's some next-level conspiracy shit lol
 
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brycejones

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When you have people like Mike Pence, knowing damn well what he went thru back on Jan 6th, but when you have Mike Pence still saying in public, "I'm proud of what the president and I accomplished during the Trump administration" and refusing to testify, you know something is really really wrong with these people.

The house republicans will go after the democrats, Garland, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden 24/7 until they draw blood.
House republicans will make the Jan 6th committee look like a Girl Scout meeting.
The house Republicans are going to look like the House Republicans during Obama's admin lots of time spent making noise but unable to do anything of significance.
 
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