House Passes 1/6 Commission

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eelw

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Well it kind of fits in this topic. The spineless one went on a 25 minute rant about the spending bill. This is one of the most shameless acts ever here. Pelosi’s response. I guess he forgot about Jan 6
 
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woolfe9998

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More from the 1/6 committee document dump. From transcripts of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony:

Additionally, she told the committee that she saw Meadows burn documents in his office fireplace around a dozen times – about once or twice a week – between December 2020 and mid-January 2021.

On several occasions, Hutchinson said, she was in Meadows’ office when he threw documents into the fireplace after a meeting. At least twice, the burning came after meetings with GOP Rep. Scott Perry, a Pennsylvania Republican, who has been linked to the efforts to use the Justice Department to overturn the 2020 election. The New York Times and Politico have previously reported on Meadows’ alleged document-burning practices.


I asume there will be no accountability for Meadow's destruction of likely incriminating White House records.
 
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sportage

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You know what I meant. I know the committee could not lock people up, not even Donald Trump. However, we have proof positive of Trump's criminal activities yet still its not enough. Enough will be for someone else to decide, if... the justice dept ever gets around to deciding. And I suppose this is how it all works in Washington and why republicans could not lock Hillary up over Benghazi. I suppose it all comes down to some humiliation game. To embarrass Hillary thus lessen her chances of electability, and now the same for Trump to lessen Donald's chances of electability. Yeah, it does appear a total waste of time. A waste of time for Hillary, for Trump.

Take the Trump taxes, his taxes will not land Trump in jail. Oh sure, his taxes might embarrass Donald with proving he pays no taxes, and exaggerates his success as a rich person, but is that really a surprise? Why would someone claiming to be so wealthy, if they were in fact so wealthy as they claim, why would they embark on the reality TV game show venture? Why become a game show host? Celebrities do these things because they need to, plus... they really need the money. A truly wealthy person does not do that, nor would they need to. I suspect that in the end no one is going to jail, not Hillary and not Trump.

So, it's open season for overthrowing the government. Why not? What can anyone do about it? What will anyone do about it? To the congress it's all some political game, and to the justice department the game is all quite ignorable. The flaw in Donald Trump's plan was surrounding himself with losers. Losers in the eyes of Donald Trump. Pence being the biggest loser and least loyal and least dependable, otherwise Trump could have succeeded with his plan. Next time, Donald Trump only need to try harder. To surround himself with people not only loyal to the end but also loyal enough to break the law. Break the law? THAT's a good one. What is it to break the law when you're a president? I sure don't know.... Nixon was a fool, he caved out of fear. Nixon could have survived if he too had loyalist surrounding him. Trump will not make that mistake, not a second time.
 
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fskimospy

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You know what I meant. I know the committee could not lock people up, not even Donald Trump. However, we have proof positive of Trump's criminal activities yet still its not enough. Enough will be for someone else to decide, if... the justice dept ever gets around to deciding. And I suppose this is how it all works in Washington and why republicans could not lock Hillary up over Benghazi. I suppose it all comes down to some humiliation game. To embarrass Hillary thus lessen her chances of electability, and now the same for Trump to lessen Donald's chances of electability. Yeah, it does appear a total waste of time. A waste of time for Hillary, for Trump.

Take the Trump taxes, his taxes will not land Trump in jail. Oh sure, his taxes might embarrass Donald with proving he pays no taxes, and exaggerates his success as a rich person, but is that really a surprise? Why would someone claiming to be so wealthy, if they were in fact so wealthy as they claim, why would they embark on the reality TV game show venture? Why become a game show host? Celebrities do these things because they need to, plus... they really need the money. A truly wealthy person does not do that, nor would they need to. I suspect that in the end no one is going to jail, not Hillary and not Trump.

So, it's open season for overthrowing the government. Why not? What can anyone do about it? What will anyone do about it? To the congress it's all some political game, and to the justice department the game is all quite ignorable. The flaw in Donald Trump's plan was surrounding himself with losers. Losers in the eyes of Donald Trump. Pence being the biggest loser and least loyal and least dependable, otherwise Trump could have succeeded with his plan. Next time, Donald Trump only need to try harder. To surround himself with people not only loyal to the end but also loyal enough to break the law. Break the law? THAT's a good one. What is it to break the law when you're a president? I sure don't know.... Nixon was a fool, he caved out of fear. Nixon could have survived if he too had loyalist surrounding him. Trump will not make that mistake, not a second time.
You’re spinning yourself up into a frenzy. Trump will be indicted soon.
 

HomerJS

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You know what I meant. I know the committee could not lock people up, not even Donald Trump. However, we have proof positive of Trump's criminal activities yet still its not enough. Enough will be for someone else to decide, if... the justice dept ever gets around to deciding. And I suppose this is how it all works in Washington and why republicans could not lock Hillary up over Benghazi. I suppose it all comes down to some humiliation game. To embarrass Hillary thus lessen her chances of electability, and now the same for Trump to lessen Donald's chances of electability. Yeah, it does appear a total waste of time. A waste of time for Hillary, for Trump.

Take the Trump taxes, his taxes will not land Trump in jail. Oh sure, his taxes might embarrass Donald with proving he pays no taxes, and exaggerates his success as a rich person, but is that really a surprise? Why would someone claiming to be so wealthy, if they were in fact so wealthy as they claim, why would they embark on the reality TV game show venture? Why become a game show host? Celebrities do these things because they need to, plus... they really need the money. A truly wealthy person does not do that, nor would they need to. I suspect that in the end no one is going to jail, not Hillary and not Trump.

So, it's open season for overthrowing the government. Why not? What can anyone do about it? What will anyone do about it? To the congress it's all some political game, and to the justice department the game is all quite ignorable. The flaw in Donald Trump's plan was surrounding himself with losers. Losers in the eyes of Donald Trump. Pence being the biggest loser and least loyal and least dependable, otherwise Trump could have succeeded with his plan. Next time, Donald Trump only need to try harder. To surround himself with people not only loyal to the end but also loyal enough to break the law. Break the law? THAT's a good one. What is it to break the law when you're a president? I sure don't know.... Nixon was a fool, he caved out of fear. Nixon could have survived if he too had loyalist surrounding him. Trump will not make that mistake, not a second time.

What was Hillary’s crime that warranted jail?
 

Fenixgoon

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I believe this 100%

100%. Just look at the difference between the preparation and response to the insurrection vs. BLM protests

Tangent, I really want people to stop calling it a riot. There's an important difference, and calling Jan6 a riot diminishes the significance of the event.
 

fskimospy

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100%. Just look at the difference between the preparation and response to the insurrection vs. BLM protests

Tangent, I really want people to stop calling it a riot. There's an important difference, and calling Jan6 a riot diminishes the significance of the event.
Agree. They were there for one purpose - to impede the lawful transfer of power that’s happened basically without a hitch for over two centuries. They were there to end democracy and capture or kill any elected representatives who tried to stop them.
 

Fenixgoon

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hal2kilo

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The documents is a closed and shut case. But we won’t see this indictment until the Jan 6 stuff is fully investigated. They won’t announce them separately.
Why should they do that? I think the documents case is going to be a slam dunk. The insurrection stuff is going to be a slog, and should hold up the documents case at all. They are not related in any way, other than the LCD of Trump.
 

woolfe9998

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More from the 1/6 document dump. A text exchange between Hope Hicks and Ivanka's chief of staff on 1/6.

“In one day he ended every future opportunity that doesn’t include speaking engagements at the local Proud Boys chapter,” Hicks wrote to Radford on January 6, 2021. “And all of us that didn’t have jobs lined up will be perpetually unemployed. I’m so mad and upset. We all look like domestic terrorists now.”

Hicks added: “This made us all unemployable. Like untouchable. God I’m so f***ing mad.”

Radford responded by texting, “I know, like there isn’t a chance of finding a job,” and indicating she already lost a job opportunity from Visa, which sent her a “blow off email.”


Maybe they should have considered this possibility before agreeing to work for Trump? Just saying...
 
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brandonbull

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I believe this 100%

If the "summer of love" was any indication, the J6 committee would have been formed to provide bail money for people arrested instead of locking people up and subjecting them to harassment and investigations for years without any charges.
 
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fskimospy

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This is sadly the new norm, where Congressional subpoenas only mean something if the same party controls the DOJ. While obviously Republicans would abuse this, Congress needs independent subpoena enforcement authority.

Until that day happens though, that's the standard. If Gym Jordan won't show up to testify about an insurrection he was part of then nobody should show up for him until he does.
 

HomerJS

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If the "summer of love" was any indication, the J6 committee would have been formed to provide bail money for people arrested instead of locking people up and subjecting them to harassment and investigations for years without any charges.
Oh silly boy. Can't tell the difference in an armed insurrection vs violence that can break out in a large group. No different then what happened in Philadelphia after the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
 
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HomerJS

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First thing GOP will do when they take over. Make corrupt House members even more corrupt and blunt any ethics investigations into roles of Congressman in Jan 6
"This must be stopped": Kevin McCarthy's first move is to "gut" congressional ethics watchdog (msn.com)
The proposal comes as the Office of Congressional Ethics (OCE) — which independently vets and refers misconduct allegations to the House Ethics Committee — faces calls to investigate Congress members who may have participated Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. The GOP's rule would muzzle the OCE's staffing and investigative authority, treating the office as a standing House Committee. The rule also directs the House Ethics Committee to begin accepting complaints from the public directly, potentially offering lawmakers an end-run around the OCE.
 
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