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HomerJS

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Here they go....
Jim Banks (R-IN) on Fox ignoring the whole thing, then lying claiming that NO REPUBLICAN in congress has ever downplayed the insurrection. And adding to the spin, "why do they need to subpoena witnesses for something that has already happened?"
I swear.... is there no shame? Apparently not.
Are you fucking kidding me?!? Ron Johnson said he was comfortable with Jan 6 unless they were those BLM types

Fucking Banks outright lying to those lemming Fox watchers
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Are you fucking kidding me?!? Ron Johnson said he was comfortable with Jan 6 unless they were those BLM types

Fucking Banks outright lying to those lemming Fox watchers
They are back on the border now. Next, a visit to the murder capitol, Chicago.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Not going away.

Here’s a Long List of Top Republicans the 1/6 Committee Should Question – Mother Jones

  • Former Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.). He was Trump’s White House chief of staff at the time and can explain what was happening at 1600 Pennsylvania during the violent raid on Congress. That includes Trump’s own actions during the assault he incited. Was Trump really excited, as CNN reported, to watch the violent throng try to stop the certification of the 2020 election
  • Reps. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Mo Brooks (R-Ala.). Ali Alexander, an organizer of the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” movement, says that he worked with this trio of Trump devotees to create an event on January 6 that would put “maximum pressure” on Congress when it was voting to certify Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory. All three members should be grilled under oath. (Biggs and Brooks have denied this.)
  • Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). The House Republican leader reportedly had an angry, expletive-laced phone conversation with Trump during the attempted insurrection, and Trump indicated he would not call off the rioters. What truly occurred during this call?
  • Kimberly Guilfoyle. On the night of January 5, according to Alexander, he spoke with Guilfoyle, a former Trump campaign official and the girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., and he suggested that she had encouraged him. What exactly did she say to him? Was she conveying a message from anyone else?
  • Caroline Wren, who was a deputy to Guilfoyle at Trump Victory, a joint presidential fundraising committee during the 2020 campaign, was reportedly involved in the planning of the rally near the White House that preceded the violent storming of the Capitol. So was Katrina Pierson, who was a national spokesperson for Trump’s 2016 campaign and a senior adviser to the Trump 2020 reelection bid. Pierson was a liaison between the White House and the conservative groups that organized that pre-attack gathering. How closely was the White House involved in that production and the subsequent march that led to the rampage? What did it and the organizers of these events know about the violent plans and inclinations of many of the attendees?
  • Roger Stone. Prior to the January 6 attack, Trump’s longtime adviser was repeatedly seen with people subsequently charged in the assault and accused of conspiring to mount the raid. In fact, several of them were providing security for him. Stone also worked to raise money for “private security” and equipment for events in Washington, on January 5 and 6, that preceded the raid on the Capitol. (Warning to the committee: Stone was convicted of lying to Congress. His three-year-plus sentence was commuted by his pal Trump.)
  • Rudy Giuliani. The onetime personal lawyer and dirt-digger for Trump—whose Manhattan home and Park Avenue office were raided by the FBI—gave one of the most fiery speeches at the pre-riot rally. “Let’s have trial by combat,” he urged the crowd shortly before large parts of the audience headed toward Capitol Hill.
  • Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. During the riot, McCarthy appealed to Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and top aide, for help in stopping the assault, and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) phoned Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter, to ask for assistance. What do this royal couple of Trumpland know about what occurred in the White House while the Trump mob was ransacking Congress? Ivanka was in the Oval Office at the time. Graham, too, should be questioned about his call to her.
  • Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.). As the riot on Capitol Hill raged, Tuberville received a call from Trump. (Trump apparently phoned Sen. Mike Lee, the Utah Republican, by mistake while trying to reach Tuberville.) Presumably, Trump was reaching out to Tuberville about the ongoing GOP effort to challenge the certification of Biden’s victory. Tuberville has said he doesn’t remember all the details of the conversation. Really? He should give testimony.
  • Kellyanne Conway. The former Trump White House senior adviser called an aide who was standing at the president’s side while the attack was underway. What did she learn?
  • Kayleigh McEnany. Then the White House press secretary, McEnany was reportedly with Trump during the attack and implored him to speak out against the violence. How did Trump respond?
  • William Barr. Trump’s guard-dog attorney general refused to join Trump in barking false claims of election fraud. He told Trump in early December that the Justice Department had not uncovered any evidence to back up the president’s wild allegations of a stolen election, and this led to an end of their once-beautiful relationship. The House committee—and the public—should hear directly from Barr regarding what Trump was saying to him during the post-election stretch and what he wanted Barr to do.
  • Pat Cipollone. Trump’s White House counsel while Trump was attempting to overturn the election results, Cipollone ought to be questioned about all the schemes Trump was discussing or considering to defy the democratic process. Might Cipollone try to hide behind a legal privilege? Perhaps. But it’s worth a shot. Meanwhile, the committee should also haul in Jeffrey Rosen, the acting attorney general after Barr fled, and Jeffrey Clark, who was a senior Justice Department official in the final days of Trump’s presidency, and ask them about Trump’s efforts to get Clark to find a way to invalidate the election results in Georgia and keep Trump in office.
  • Mike Pence. The former vice president was the target of some of the rioters, who called for him to be hanged. While in hiding, Pence received calls from congressional leaders who were angry the National Guard had not been deployed. According to the Washington Post, he “spoke with legislative and military leaders, working to mobilize the soldiers and offering reassurance.” He never talked to Trump during the attack. But Marc Short, Pence’s chief of staff, was in contact with the White House. The ex-veep should have a lot to say—and so should Short.
  • Donald Trump. Because it was his riot.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Not going away.

Here’s a Long List of Top Republicans the 1/6 Committee Should Question – Mother Jones

  • Former Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.). He was Trump’s White House chief of staff at the time and can explain what was happening at 1600 Pennsylvania during the violent raid on Congress. That includes Trump’s own actions during the assault he incited. Was Trump really excited, as CNN reported, to watch the violent throng try to stop the certification of the 2020 election
  • Reps. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Mo Brooks (R-Ala.). Ali Alexander, an organizer of the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” movement, says that he worked with this trio of Trump devotees to create an event on January 6 that would put “maximum pressure” on Congress when it was voting to certify Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory. All three members should be grilled under oath. (Biggs and Brooks have denied this.)
  • Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). The House Republican leader reportedly had an angry, expletive-laced phone conversation with Trump during the attempted insurrection, and Trump indicated he would not call off the rioters. What truly occurred during this call?
  • Kimberly Guilfoyle. On the night of January 5, according to Alexander, he spoke with Guilfoyle, a former Trump campaign official and the girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., and he suggested that she had encouraged him. What exactly did she say to him? Was she conveying a message from anyone else?
  • Caroline Wren, who was a deputy to Guilfoyle at Trump Victory, a joint presidential fundraising committee during the 2020 campaign, was reportedly involved in the planning of the rally near the White House that preceded the violent storming of the Capitol. So was Katrina Pierson, who was a national spokesperson for Trump’s 2016 campaign and a senior adviser to the Trump 2020 reelection bid. Pierson was a liaison between the White House and the conservative groups that organized that pre-attack gathering. How closely was the White House involved in that production and the subsequent march that led to the rampage? What did it and the organizers of these events know about the violent plans and inclinations of many of the attendees?
  • Roger Stone. Prior to the January 6 attack, Trump’s longtime adviser was repeatedly seen with people subsequently charged in the assault and accused of conspiring to mount the raid. In fact, several of them were providing security for him. Stone also worked to raise money for “private security” and equipment for events in Washington, on January 5 and 6, that preceded the raid on the Capitol. (Warning to the committee: Stone was convicted of lying to Congress. His three-year-plus sentence was commuted by his pal Trump.)
  • Rudy Giuliani. The onetime personal lawyer and dirt-digger for Trump—whose Manhattan home and Park Avenue office were raided by the FBI—gave one of the most fiery speeches at the pre-riot rally. “Let’s have trial by combat,” he urged the crowd shortly before large parts of the audience headed toward Capitol Hill.
  • Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. During the riot, McCarthy appealed to Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and top aide, for help in stopping the assault, and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) phoned Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter, to ask for assistance. What do this royal couple of Trumpland know about what occurred in the White House while the Trump mob was ransacking Congress? Ivanka was in the Oval Office at the time. Graham, too, should be questioned about his call to her.
  • Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.). As the riot on Capitol Hill raged, Tuberville received a call from Trump. (Trump apparently phoned Sen. Mike Lee, the Utah Republican, by mistake while trying to reach Tuberville.) Presumably, Trump was reaching out to Tuberville about the ongoing GOP effort to challenge the certification of Biden’s victory. Tuberville has said he doesn’t remember all the details of the conversation. Really? He should give testimony.
  • Kellyanne Conway. The former Trump White House senior adviser called an aide who was standing at the president’s side while the attack was underway. What did she learn?
  • Kayleigh McEnany. Then the White House press secretary, McEnany was reportedly with Trump during the attack and implored him to speak out against the violence. How did Trump respond?
  • William Barr. Trump’s guard-dog attorney general refused to join Trump in barking false claims of election fraud. He told Trump in early December that the Justice Department had not uncovered any evidence to back up the president’s wild allegations of a stolen election, and this led to an end of their once-beautiful relationship. The House committee—and the public—should hear directly from Barr regarding what Trump was saying to him during the post-election stretch and what he wanted Barr to do.
  • Pat Cipollone. Trump’s White House counsel while Trump was attempting to overturn the election results, Cipollone ought to be questioned about all the schemes Trump was discussing or considering to defy the democratic process. Might Cipollone try to hide behind a legal privilege? Perhaps. But it’s worth a shot. Meanwhile, the committee should also haul in Jeffrey Rosen, the acting attorney general after Barr fled, and Jeffrey Clark, who was a senior Justice Department official in the final days of Trump’s presidency, and ask them about Trump’s efforts to get Clark to find a way to invalidate the election results in Georgia and keep Trump in office.
  • Mike Pence. The former vice president was the target of some of the rioters, who called for him to be hanged. While in hiding, Pence received calls from congressional leaders who were angry the National Guard had not been deployed. According to the Washington Post, he “spoke with legislative and military leaders, working to mobilize the soldiers and offering reassurance.” He never talked to Trump during the attack. But Marc Short, Pence’s chief of staff, was in contact with the White House. The ex-veep should have a lot to say—and so should Short.
  • Donald Trump. Because it was his riot.

Damn straight. Commission says they'll follow the facts. Well that means subpoenas for Il Douche and Mike Pence. Awesome. Let's see how giddy Trump acts now.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Oh c'mon. Laundering money for Russians and stealing from children's charities are both every bit as evil as *checks notes* art sales.
Ivanka and Jared worked for the white house while still running private businesses, including Jared getting high security clearances even after failing security protocols.

Greensman trying to both sides this is quite pathetic. Let me know when Biden commissions his son to create art for the government, and sell it, and gives him top secret clearance to do so in order to get great deals.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Poor Mo Brooks. The Justice Dept. has determined that inciting insurrection against our Republic is outside the scope of duties of a sitting congressman and has declined to defend Mr. Brooks in a civil suit. Holding a Republican responsible for his seditious conduct is tyranny!
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Poor Mo Brooks. The Justice Dept. has determined that inciting insurrection against our Republic is outside the scope of duties of a sitting congressman and has declined to defend Mr. Brooks in a civil suit. Holding a Republican responsible for his seditious conduct is tyranny!
just came to post that


Apparently when they were looking at him for insurrection he stated he was really just getting folks excited to vote R in 2022 and 2024 - i.e. campaigning. When he was sued he said he was performing his house duties so the DOJ should protect him. The DOJ said sorry you already said you were campaigning which is not covered under your duties as representative.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I'm so weary of all these treasonous asshats trying to act tough, but when I hear cowardly poseurs mocking actual heroes as drama queens and actors...*shakes head*

Hard to overstate just how loathsome these people are




They had Stefanik officially blame Pelosi for Jan 6th. No bullshit too absurd for these panicking traitors!
 

NWRMidnight

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From the article posted:

Several political commentators have casted doubt over Reuters' report, emphasizing that the FBI is downplaying reams of evidence that suggest the riot was organized in advance of Jan. 6.


National security expert Marcy Wheeler, for example, pointed out that multiple far-right groups are already facing conspiracy charges.


"It is false to say (as that Reuters report did) that no group had a central role in organizing the insurrection," Wheeler wrote on Twitter. "The Proud Boys did. And they explicitly were aiming to get 'normies' to behave like them."


Alan Feuer, a legal reporter at the New York Times, echoed Wheeler. "Private communications in the FBI's possession clearly show that leaders of the Proud Boys, for example, discussed on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6 their desire to 'rile up the normies' — which is to say, the ordinary people in the crowd that day," Feuer tweeted.


As of this month, 40 members of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys have been indicted on conspiracy charges in connection to the riot.

So, seems there's some dispute with regards to it not being planned.
 

NWRMidnight

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FBI: The Jan 6 attack likely was not a planned event to re-seat Trump saying "scant evidence"

FBI finds little evidence Jan. 6 insurrection was organized attack: report (msn.com) (Salon)

Looks like it was a mob/lemmings event
I already pointed this out to idiots on reddit who try to say the same crap. NO where did the FBI report such a thing. The sources are 4 "unnamed" current and FORMER law enforcement officials (AKA NOT THE FBI). IF it any of the sources where actually part of the FBI, they would have stated 4 FBI officials, but rather they used the blanket term law enforcement officials which indicates that these 4 sources are from other random outside law enforcement agencies, and not the actual FBI. (do you know how many branches of law enforcement we have that are not the FBI?).. what branch of law enforcement? How can any FORMER officials have up to date investigation knowledge? How long have they been "former" law enforcement officials.. a week, a month, 6 months.. a year.. This whole article reeks of BS and no such thing came from the FBI in any trustworthy fashion.

Get back to us when the FBI puts out an official report, rather than something that comes from random "Law enforcement officials". I suspect you will find that it will not be what is claimed here, far from it. I also won't be surprised when the 4 "sources" this article is based on, become known, and we learn they are not part of the FBI agency.
 
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blackangst1

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I already pointed this out to idiots on reddit who try to say the same crap. NO where did the FBI report such a thing. The sources are 4 "unnamed" current and FORMER law enforcement officials (AKA NOT THE FBI). IF it any of the sources where actually part of the FBI, they would have stated 4 FBI officials, but rather they used the blanket term law enforcement officials which indicates that these 4 sources are from other random outside law enforcement agencies, and not the actual FBI. (do you know how many branches of law enforcement we have that are not the FBI?).. what branch of law enforcement? How can any FORMER officials have up to date investigation knowledge? How long have they been "former" law enforcement officials.. a week, a month, 6 months.. a year.. This whole article reeks of BS and no such thing came from the FBI in any trustworthy fashion.

Get back to us when the FBI puts out an official report, rather than something that comes from random "Law enforcement officials". I suspect you will find that it will not be what is claimed here, far from it. I also won't be surprised when the 4 "sources" this article is based on, become known, and we learn they are not part of the FBI agency.

"interviewed four unnamed FBI officials familiar with the agency's probe into the insurrection "
 
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They don't file Conspiracy charges unless there is pre-planning.
 
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