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woolfe9998

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These concessions that McCarthy is making may threaten further aid to Ukraine, says this article.


I don't quite understand, though. AFAIK, the dems support Ukraine aid, and also at least 2/3 of repugs do as well. Sure, the so-called "freedom" caucus doesn't support Ukraine, but that's like 20 members. Is the probem that the crazies are going to invoke a no confidence vote unless McCarthy uses his powers as speaker to block a floor vote?
 
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Dave_5k

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Looks like he might get the votes (barely), Boebert just switched to "Present", if a couple more of the final holdouts switch to present and McCarthyism wins.

Edit: now 2 votes against, and 1 present (Crane and Biggs voted for others). As they vote alphabetically, Matt Gaetz is next up on the holdout list is expected to still be a hard no.
Will come down to Good and Rosendale - if both vote present, I think McCarthy gets in by a hair if I did the math right & no one missing or switches.
 
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skyking

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yeah she's bragging again. maybe she thinks she will get a late Christmas present?
 

eelw

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Hmm Gaetz didn’t vote. He wants to wait until the end to vote
 

Dave_5k

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Hmm, Gaetz was missing / did not vote at all?
Good still a no. 3 no's, 1 present (amongst republicans), if Gaetz doesn't vote late, I think McCarthy may have it? Although a Gaetz potential no will now depend on yet another Rosendale no also to still block him.
 

eelw

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Gaetz will wait until everyone else votes. Wimp.
Not that. He wants to be the big hero at the end. That 218 vote to give the spineless one the win. Here’s hoping he gets backstabbed still
 

Dave_5k

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Not that. He wants to be the big hero at the end. That 218 vote to give the spineless one the win. Here’s hoping he gets backstabbed still
I think 217 will now do it, only 433 members available/voting after Boebert's "present".

4 no's, 1 present, Gosar and Gaetz missing? either one as a "no" blocks it, both as present (or for McCarthy) gives McCarthy the win I think

Edit: Looks like Graves and Harder also missing so far from vote call (1 dem, 1 republican), which lowers threshold to 216 if they're not around, but doesn't help McCarthy as Graves was in his corner
 

Dave_5k

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And a failure. 2 presents isn’t enough
Yep, Gaetz as present & all dems showed up, so failure by 1 vote

Note republican holdouts:
Crane, Rosendale voted for Biggs
Biggs, Good voted for Jordan
Boebert, Gaetz voted present.

Round 15, to be scheduled? Unclear if they are going to vote again, or adjourn for night

Edit: Quote from Washington Post, Gaetz was applauded by Republicans for his present vote... which blocked McCarthy again lol.

"Florida Republican Matt Gaetz voted “present.” California Republican Kevin McCarthy needed him to vote “yes” to clinch the speakership.
In what appears to be a moment of confusion, Republicans gave Gaetz a standing ovation after his vote, perhaps thinking it was enough to put McCarthy over the top in the 14th round of voting."
 
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eelw

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Damn the spineless one growing a backbone. Confronting Boebort and Gaetz
 

Pens1566

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Can't elect a speaker ... what the fuck are they gonna do for the rest of the term???
 

eelw

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Gaetz demanding they adjourn until Monday. There’s going to be a hit out on him if he leaves this house floor
 

cytg111

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Well, Gaetz seems to have learned his Trumpism lessons well... He sure does draw attention on himself.
 
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hal2kilo

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Holy shit show! Everybody wants Gaetz hide. Amazing to see the expression change on McCarthy's face when he got the final no from him. Never in my life. Gaetz wants to retire for the weekend. I hope they keep this up! I say the nos have it for adjournment. Here comes the vote.
 
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