How are FX CPUs (as well as the server versions) selling?

[chrisjames61]

I recommend cooling the VRMs, and avoiding prime95.

I only recommend overclocking with 8+2 boards.

 

[shady28]

Ehmm, that GA-78LMT-S2P doesn't officially support the FX6350 but it should be fine with the FX6300.

http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4125

This appears true, however the 760G chipset it is based on does. My guess is that they just never bothered to update the specs when the 6350 came out, which itself is just a 6300 with a 400Mhz higher clock.

 

[PG]

The Gigabyte 78LMT-S2P only supports 95W cpus for a reason. It only has a 3+1 phase VRM and no throttling to protect itself. I have one of these boards and put in a 125W rated FX-4130 just to play around. It would not run at full speed by default, and Turbo was off by default. So, yes, some 125W cpus will run on this board, but probably not correctly and not at full speed. Yes, I had the latest bios. If I remember right it was running at just 2.8 Ghz.
Skip the FX-6350 with this board and just get the FX-6300. I don't see how the FX-6350 will run right or at full potential. Overclocking could kill the board. It just isn't made for cpus greater than 95W.

The Asus M5A78L-M LX is different. It has the same 3+1 phase VRM but it will throttle the cpu to prevent damage. This is why they list it as supporting 125W cpus. Sure they will run, but probably not at full performance when compared to a board with a better VRM design.
This is the safer bet for a budget build and you don't have to worry about the board blowing up.

 

[Erenhardt]

Yes, asus board has overheat protection which kicks in in heavy tasks (OCCT) but there is a way to disable it. After that it runs at 4.4Ghz during OCCT small data sample stress test.

Its not to say beefier VRMs are not recommended. On my 4+1 board VRMs are cooler than the CPU

 

[frozentundra123456]

I think someone already provided that CPUs without iGPUs were making up 30% of AMD sales. I would say that's pretty good for a bunch of 2-3 year old parts.

Frys shows the FX-6350 (which has a 12% higher clock than the 6300) is $97 vs $159 for the i3-4360.

In my experience Newegg is almost always overpriced on AMD parts.

So FX is 30 percent of what 18 percent of the market. So FX is maybe 5% of total sales. Guess you can define "selling well" as any way you want it though.

 

[jpiniero]

So FX is 30 percent of what 18 percent of the market. So FX is maybe 5% of total sales. Guess you can define "selling well" as any way you want it though.

Remember AMD does sell Athlons which are basically the APUs with the GPU disabled. Those are probably a good chunk of the non-iGPU sales.

 

[Schmide]

My story on throttling.

So I bought a 3+1 (maybe 4+1)

BIOSTAR A960D+ AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard (see conversation between Ralph and Andrew Q&A)

like a year ago because it came with a free 8gb of low profile dd3 1600. (oh those were the days). It sat in my tech room until last month when an fx8320 went on sale for $104 shipped. So I built it up.

It would throttle under heavy load when the sensor TMPIN1 would go over 65c degrees. Changing the PWM Processor Hot from Auto to Disabled would stop the throttling but the temps would go well past 80c. I screwed around for a bit trying different cooling and changing TIM thinking it was the NB. (It still might be) but I know think it is a sensor somewhere between the NB and the audio chip.

Putting a buncho HS on the VRMS and chokes.

So with a small fan blowing into that area I get no throttling and temps as follows.

Idle 45-52c
Watching videos and browsing 55c
Gaming 60-70c
OCCT 72-76c

I could turn the fan up to full and it would only go to 62c but it was way annoying.

Bit of a ride to get it stable but for approx $160 MB/Ram/CPU. It was well worth it.

 

[bononos]

See images below as to why they are still selling well, and why (IMO) the FX-6300 / 6350 is still a better deal than the i3 in most situations :
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I disagree that the Haswell i3 is not a better deal (vs 6300/6350) in most situations. Haswell i3 is the better deal in most situations.
The benchmarks in your link heavily favours more cores but a 2C+HT cpu still manages to keep up and isn't too far behind in most of them. The povray benchmark is clearly faulty. The i3-3220 vs 6300 shows something more credible for povray 3.7 and the Haswell should be even faster.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/677?vs=699