Ahh.. I blame the people with MSI board problems, not the boards, its usually not the boards fault, I consider MSI, to be in the top 3 list of quality mobo, and graphics card manufacturers, I have used 4 MSI boards in my life, the most recent being a P4 msi 865 PE, it is rock solid can take abuse, overclocks well, AWESOME AND I MEAN AWESOME driver support, you get a lil program that searches for the latest and best drives and installs them all in one, and plus it has loads of features, awesome manual, especially since their located in Taiwan, not the most, English place in the world, I didn't find one grammatical error, and I usually notice those, plus a cool box