How are the Samsung DLP TVs?

[mcmikemc]

I have been saving for the past two years for a HDTV and am currently thinking about getting this TV.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...ctCategoryId=cat03006&id=1110265592237

I just wanted to see how people like them.

 

[kylebisme]

I'm not a big fan of DLPs in general but I have noticed those Samsungs as being some of the nicer looking ones I have seen. Also, you can shave about 20% off the price shipped from a good online shop instead of getting it at Best Buy.

 

[AndyD2k]

I would go to a best buy or the equivalant before buying. A friend at work owns one and loves it but there is some sort of rainbow effect that I've read about online. It's not noticable to everyone but to some it's an annoyance. Not sure if the issue has been addressed in the latest models. I'm thinking about getting one next year when I move to my own apartment.

 

[jiffylube1024]

I'm a fan of the Samsung DLP TV's, especially the newer ones with the newer Texas instrument chips in there.

 

[xtknight]

I want a DLP monitor.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: AndyD2k
I would go to a best buy or the equivalant before buying. A friend at work owns one and loves it but there is some sort of rainbow effect that I've read about online. It's not noticable to everyone but to some it's an annoyance. Not sure if the issue has been addressed in the latest models. I'm thinking about getting one next year when I move to my own apartment.

Yeah, check if you notice rainbows.

mcmikemc, also check out AVSforum if you haven't.

 

[Muadib]

I see rainbows or I would be all over one of their new 1080p sets. TV Authority is a trusted vendor over at AVS forums.

 

[xtknight]

Rainbows?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Rainbows?

Check out how DLPs work at DLP.com (They should still have a little video of how it works).

There's a color wheel that spins around very fast and the colors overlap and our eyes blend them to be the whole spectrum of color.

If you move your eyes rapidly from one area of the screen to the other, you can see the individual primary colors of light as the different colors shine in front of the color wheel.

Color wheels are becoming faster over time so this effect has been reduced quite a bit.

The amount that it bothers you is a personal thing.

I can only see them when there's a black background and a very bright object (Like during credits) and I move my eyes around a lot.

I hope I did a decent job explaining it. I'm sure if you search for "Rainbow effect" on google you'll get some better info.

 

[kylebisme]

Rainbows are slight color variations that come from how the seprate red, blue and green components of the image are presented on the screen. The nicer DLPs use 3 seprate chips for each color to aviod the problem, but they still are a bit lacking in other areas of image quality.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/dlp_technology_overview.asp

Click on "Launch our demo" in the black box towards the upper right.

I don't remember them mentioning rainbows in it, but you can see how DLP works and what I'm saying might make more sense then.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: xtknight
Rainbows?

Check out how DLPs work at DLP.com (They should still have a little video of how it works).

There's a color wheel that spins around very fast and the colors overlap and our eyes blend them to be the whole spectrum of color.

If you move your eyes rapidly from one area of the screen to the other, you can see the individual primary colors of light as the different colors shine in front of the color wheel.

Color wheels are becoming faster over time so this effect has been reduced quite a bit.

The amount that it bothers you is a personal thing.

I can only see them when there's a black background and a very bright object (Like during credits) and I move my eyes around a lot.

I hope I did a decent job explaining it. I'm sure if you search for "Rainbow effect" on google you'll get some better info.

Wow, I noticed that when I was watching a projector video at school, but they're so cheap I can't imagine it would have been a DLP. Anyway, there's almost no way in hell you're going to notice it, much less pay attention to it IMO. If you can use an LCD for gaming like me, this won't bother you a bit.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: xtknight
Rainbows?

Check out how DLPs work at DLP.com (They should still have a little video of how it works).

There's a color wheel that spins around very fast and the colors overlap and our eyes blend them to be the whole spectrum of color.

If you move your eyes rapidly from one area of the screen to the other, you can see the individual primary colors of light as the different colors shine in front of the color wheel.

Color wheels are becoming faster over time so this effect has been reduced quite a bit.

The amount that it bothers you is a personal thing.

I can only see them when there's a black background and a very bright object (Like during credits) and I move my eyes around a lot.

I hope I did a decent job explaining it. I'm sure if you search for "Rainbow effect" on google you'll get some better info.

Wow, I noticed that when I was watching a projector video at school, but they're so cheap I can't imagine it would have been a DLP. Anyway, there's almost no way in hell you're going to notice it, much less pay attention to it IMO. If you can use an LCD for gaming like me, this won't bother you a bit.

Yeah, rainbows aren't a problem for other displays, but each has its own advantages and drawbacks. (LCDs tend to not have that great of a response time and are not ideal for gaming for example)

There are some movies that I definately notice it in, but it's not very often at all. What comes to mind is when there are torches (I'm not British, I mean acutal torches with fire) on walls in a dark environment. Like any of those ancient greek/roman epic movies... if there are torch-lit scenes then I can notice them pretty easily if it's dark and the light source is rapidly changing shape.

Overall I'm quite happy with my projector though. Other than having to make my room dark, rainbows are the #2 issue I have with it and I very rarely notice them luckily (again, it's a personal thing so it might really bother the OP).

 

[Muadib]

You couldn't be more wrong, xtknight. It is very distracting, and even gives some people headaches. Buying one without taking every family member to demo it could be a huge mistake. I know someone who did, and he had to take it back because his wife saw rainbows.

I use an LCD for gaming as well, but it's really not relevant.

 

[MustISO]

Some DLP sets also have issues with consoles and possibly PC games. There's a lag that occurs on the affected sets. AVSForum has many threads on the issue.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Muadib
You couldn't be more wrong, xtknight. It is very distracting, and even gives some people headaches. Buying one without taking every family member to demo it could be a huge mistake. I know someone who did, and he had to take it back because his wife saw rainbows.

I use an LCD for gaming as well, but it's really not relevant.

Wow. It must be rare, or I'm sure someone in my classroom of 20 would have had the problem too. Or maybe I just don't know about it. :Q

Oh well. Heil OLED/PLED/SED!
Rear projection CRTs are the next best thing then, I suppose.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Muadib
You couldn't be more wrong, xtknight. It is very distracting, and even gives some people headaches. Buying one without taking every family member to demo it could be a huge mistake. I know someone who did, and he had to take it back because his wife saw rainbows.

I use an LCD for gaming as well, but it's really not relevant.

Wow. It must be rare, or I'm sure someone in my classroom of 20 would have had the problem too. Or maybe I just don't know about it. :Q

Oh well. Heil OLED/PLED/SED!
Rear projection CRTs are the next best thing then, I suppose.

If you saw rainbows on the projector and didn't know it was an issue only some people saw, would you raise your hand and say "I see different colors when I look quickly around the screen"?

I really don't know how widespread it is either, but I've thought about this sort of scenario before and I don't think I'd volunteer to say something if it bothered me. I'd probably just assume everyone saw it.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: MustISO
Some DLP sets also have issues with consoles and possibly PC games. There's a lag that occurs on the affected sets. AVSForum has many threads on the issue.

Never had any lag on my Sammy with the xbox or ps2 hooked up through component. Only thing I ever noticed lag on was playing game boy games through the game boy advance adaptor on the game cube which was run through my receiver before it got to the tv. I imagine it was one of the connections before the tv where it picked up the lag. I have a Sammy HLN 50".

Get a 1080P if you can afford it...

 

[SuperFubario]

MC

That samsung tv is the only one garrentied(sp) not to lag during gaming. Its sister TV (without the Digital tv tuner card) does lag...i know i have it....but its only certain games and i have developed like a 6th sense while playing these games now and i dont really notice it.

Few things you should know:

The only draw back with that TV is it doesnt have a VGA input and i wanted it because of that, hence why i got the non digital card one.

I have people over daily to watch movies and game and no one has seen the rainbow effect. (and non of them notice the lagging while gaming) But when i first got it home i did feel ......ODD while watching it...it could have been from goin from a 20 inch to a 50 but the odd feeling is all but gone now.

Also ask them if that TV has the upgraded screen. Samsung was selling them with a defective screen that would produce grey blotches onscreen. Free inhome replacement was my fix but still it was a bit of a hassle.

I had the LG 52 inch DLP and i took it back to future shop for this model and im so happy i did.

Everyone has an opinion on TV tech and you need to come up with your own. Me...i game way to much and i would kill a plasma in no time and dead pixels on a LCD would be like sand in my eyes...so DLP was right for me

EDIT: yes AVSforum is great to get other reader reveiws and stuff ....helped me out alot with my purchase and trouble shooting of my "blotchy screen"

SF

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Muadib
You couldn't be more wrong, xtknight. It is very distracting, and even gives some people headaches. Buying one without taking every family member to demo it could be a huge mistake. I know someone who did, and he had to take it back because his wife saw rainbows.

I use an LCD for gaming as well, but it's really not relevant.

Wow. It must be rare, or I'm sure someone in my classroom of 20 would have had the problem too. Or maybe I just don't know about it. :Q

Oh well. Heil OLED/PLED/SED!
Rear projection CRTs are the next best thing then, I suppose.

If you saw rainbows on the projector and didn't know it was an issue only some people saw, would you raise your hand and say "I see different colors when I look quickly around the screen"?

I really don't know how widespread it is either, but I've thought about this sort of scenario before and I don't think I'd volunteer to say something if it bothered me. I'd probably just assume everyone saw it.

lolol
QFT...I was a bit crazy when I made that post.

 

[mcmikemc]

I have watched plenty of movies on an Infocus X1 and I can easily noptice the rainbow if I try. I had heard that the new chips use a 2x color wheel now so the effects have been decreased.

I would love to get one of the new 1080p DLP TVs but my budget is $3,000 for a TV so I think they are out of my range currently. Depending on how fast the prices come down I might hold off on getting a HDTV until the PS3 comes out.

 

[pulsedrive]

You can get one of the 1080p samsungs for about 3800 shipped. So admitedly that is a little higher than you are looking, but not horribly.