How bad will the violence be when Trump is arrested Tuesday, or whenever?

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Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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Last time Stormie spanked Donald with a rolled up fake Time magazine. Will she do it this time with the law?
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I heard The_President_from_Hell is in New York and he slept in Trump Tower last night.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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I stocked up on food and clean drinking water. I'll be ok a couple days.

(I live in a place there more than one person drives around with a giant "FUCK BIDEN" flag on the end of his F-350.)
 
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eelw

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That’s disgusting. Oldest spawn apparently posted picture of daughter of the judge. Noted she worked on the Biden/Harris campaign.
 
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Mai72

Lifer
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The average age of a Trump supporter is 60. What are they going to do?

 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Seems like he's done. If he couldn't really get anyone to show up for him now, I think the "magic" (such as it was) is gone. Just an insane amount of baggage at this point, and it seems like even righties are ready to move on. That said, I hope he wins their primary so they can get completely destroyed in 24.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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One minor scuffle


Weird the cops just let her walk into that crowd and antagonize them.
Cops probably said, "watch this" and let it happen. Who was yelling "bag o' bones"? That was a beached whale
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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From what I read online - (lots of opinions from legal scholars). It seems like a real thin case if it is a case at all.

Micheal Cohns Statement Letter:


The letter, written from the offices of Trump's former attorney, dated February 8, 2018, stated: "In a private transaction in 2016, before the U.S. presidential election, Mr. Cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels' real name).

"Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford and neither reimbursed Mr Cohen directly or indirectly."

Stormy is also all over the place:


" Signed official statement of Stormy Daniels admits affair never happened and that she was not paid ‘hush money,’” reads a tweet that circulated widely Thursday, sharing the document signed by Daniels."

Too much BS involved. I guess we will see...
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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From what I read online - (lots of opinions from legal scholars). It seems like a real thin case if it is a case at all.

Micheal Cohns Statement Letter:


The letter, written from the offices of Trump's former attorney, dated February 8, 2018, stated: "In a private transaction in 2016, before the U.S. presidential election, Mr. Cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels' real name).

"Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford and neither reimbursed Mr Cohen directly or indirectly."

Stormy is also all over the place:


" Signed official statement of Stormy Daniels admits affair never happened and that she was not paid ‘hush money,’” reads a tweet that circulated widely Thursday, sharing the document signed by Daniels."

Too much BS involved. I guess we will see...
Well it depends - nobody knows the facts of the case or what theory of law Bragg is applying so there's no way to make an informed judgment.

That being said what we do know is that Trump committed a crime here by falsifying his business records. That isn't even really in dispute I don't think. The only question is if it was misdemeanor falsifying or felony falsifying.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Well it depends - nobody knows the facts of the case or what theory of law Bragg is applying so there's no way to make an informed judgment.

That being said what we do know is that Trump committed a crime here by falsifying his business records. That isn't even really in dispute I don't think. The only question is if it was misdemeanor falsifying or felony falsifying.


Statute of Limitations seems to be big factor too. I think it has been 5 years since the alleged infraction(s). I don't have the exact dates.
2 years class A
5 years class E felony


The maximum legal consequences for a class A misdemeanor include:

  • A possible fine of up to $1,000; and
  • Possible jail time for up to one year.
If the alleged offender is convicted of falsifying business records in the first degree the penalties are enhanced. A first degree falsifying business record charge can result in a class E Felony.

The maximum penalties for a class E felony include:


  • Possible fine determined by the court; and
  • Possible prison term up to four years.

For falsifying business records to a second degree, a conviction will result in a Class A misdemeanor. All misdemeanors in New York have a statute of limitations for two years.

On the other hand, falsifying business records in the first degree is a Class E felony. A felony offense statute of limitations is five years.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Statute of Limitations seems to be big factor too. I think it has been 5 years since the alleged infraction(s). I don't have the exact dates.
2 years class A
5 years class E felony


The maximum legal consequences for a class A misdemeanor include:

  • A possible fine of up to $1,000; and
  • Possible jail time for up to one year.
If the alleged offender is convicted of falsifying business records in the first degree the penalties are enhanced. A first degree falsifying business record charge can result in a class E Felony.

The maximum penalties for a class E felony include:


  • Possible fine determined by the court; and
  • Possible prison term up to four years.

For falsifying business records to a second degree, a conviction will result in a Class A misdemeanor. All misdemeanors in New York have a statute of limitations for two years.

On the other hand, falsifying business records in the first degree is a Class E felony. A felony offense statute of limitations is five years.
Statute of limitations is likely not a problem. As per NYS law:


4. In calculating the time limitation applicable to commencement of a criminal action, the following periods shall not be included:

(a) Any period following the commission of the offense during which (i) the defendant was continuously outside this state or (ii) the
whereabouts of the defendant were continuously unknown and continuously unascertainable by the exercise of reasonable diligence. However, in no
event shall the period of limitation be extended by more than five years beyond the period otherwise applicable under subdivision two.

He was president for the four years following the crime - that's going to satisfy the 'continuously outside this state' part I imagine so the SOL would be extended four additional years. Even with a misdemeanor looks like they would get in under the wire.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Statute of limitations is likely not a problem. As per NYS law:




He was president for the four years following the crime - that's going to satisfy the 'continuously outside this state' part I imagine so the SOL would be extended four additional years. Even with a misdemeanor looks like they would get in under the wire.

I guess there the court will decide his fate if it goes forward.
 

APU_Fusion

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Dec 16, 2013
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Statute of Limitations seems to be big factor too. I think it has been 5 years since the alleged infraction(s). I don't have the exact dates.
2 years class A
5 years class E felony


The maximum legal consequences for a class A misdemeanor include:

  • A possible fine of up to $1,000; and
  • Possible jail time for up to one year.
If the alleged offender is convicted of falsifying business records in the first degree the penalties are enhanced. A first degree falsifying business record charge can result in a class E Felony.

The maximum penalties for a class E felony include:


  • Possible fine determined by the court; and
  • Possible prison term up to four years.

For falsifying business records to a second degree, a conviction will result in a Class A misdemeanor. All misdemeanors in New York have a statute of limitations for two years.

On the other hand, falsifying business records in the first degree is a Class E felony. A felony offense statute of limitations is five years.


a thin case eh? Statute of limitations eh? Are you on his defense team perchance?
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Keep championing for the Mussolini 👍


I'm not championing for anyone. I didn't say he was innocent or should get off of the charges. It has been reported all over about what a weak case it is and why it hasn't been taken up before now in NY or by the FEDs. I am only discussing what I have heard and read online and in the news. Many of whom are legal experts and professors.

But feel free to bitch about it all you want.
 
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