How can I make sure I buy at the right time? A look at the past, Future trends, Athlon 4, nForce...

Zyphria

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I think as most computer enthusiasts who don't have a ton of money to throw around that there must be a way to assess the near future of motherboards and chipsets, graphics cards, and growing trends.

Lets take a ride down memory lane so you can better understand what I'm trying to illustrate here.

The first motherboard chipset that was widely available for consumers buying the brand new Pentium II's was the short-lived 440FX. Following which a number of months later was the 440LX, and lastly the long lived 440BX. Now lets get down to the main issue. Bang for your buck.

The 440FX allowed for the following processors: 233, 266, and 300. That was it. So if you went from a 233 to a 300, you would get an increase of roughly 28%. Not so hot in a world where speeds double every 18 months. Other things about the 440FX chipset made those motherboards built upon it extremely limited to upgrading. AGP wasn't introduced until the 440LX (agp 1x) and boosted to 2x with the BX (I believe). Also the 440LX was the first to support SDRAM which remained a mainstay for a number of years.

So why this throw back to the introduction of the Pentium II? Well what I am trying to accomplish is determining the best *time* in the near future to jump for a new chipset.

What does this new chipset need to provide for the most bang for the buck?

1. Solid chipset, not too early from release when the designers are using basic reference designs.

2. Knowing that no *big* changes are around the corner. I don't want to end up buying a motherboard that will completely outdated with the arrival of a new standard, like ATA 100, USB 2.0, a new core design change, ability to allow for new RAM types, etc.

3. Knowing that future processors will be supported, at *least* giving a 33% boost. So if I was picking up a motherboard that supports my 2ghz cpu now, that it will be able to support a 2.66ghz or better CPU down the line.

So what am I looking for? Tracking numerous variables essentially (with the aid of the all-knowing conglomeration of Anandtech Forum posters).

So the question really is, is it doable? Or is communications age moving too quickly to gather trends and be able to buy a motherboard to which I can successfully upgrade six months after buying it and keep a system that is more than a little respectable to the brand new stuff. In one year I should be still comfortable with the system but start eying new trends.

The next question is, where do most people see the next "wave" rising that will incorporate the next line of CPU's, new standards (or strongly cemented current standards)? I hear a number of people chanting nForce and Athlon 4....will the first real motherboard chipset by nVidia built well enough to last more than a few months before ironing out the problems, or should we all wait for that "second revision"?

Well if I continue like this I will feel like philisophical debate with myself so I think I'll leave it at this.

Thanks in advance for your time.

Zyph
 

Raspewtin

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i will not wait for the 2nd revision on the nvidia chipset. I guess i will be playing some roulette but i want it when it comes out. IMO next big wave is 1.5 Athlon4 + nforce. of course with the prefetch already in nforce, aside from SSE and running a lot cooler, Athlon4 is more evolutionary than revolutionary. oh well.
 

NelsonMuntz

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Nice post Zyphria! I think that it is difficult to foresee what is coming down the pipeline. We can get information about Intel and AMD future roadmaps, but that doesn't tell us what will be happening in the all too important realm of motherboards. I think the nForce might be a revolution in motherboards and it may force other chipset makers (VIA and ALi) to get their acts together and produce comparably equipped chipsets. If the nForce ends up being all it's cracked up to be, then it should definitely be the board to buy and if the first revision is successful, there is no reason not to pick it up. Alot of motherboard manufacturers are able to keep their boards up to date for longer times by offering updated BIOSes that make them accessible to new products. For example, I am sure some of the AMD761 boards will get a new BIOS with support for Athlon 4 when it gets out there for desktops. Just some of my mindless ranting.
 

Zyphria

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Well I realize that, but if you look at my example, there are better times than others.
 

Citadel535

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I would recommend to buy whatever it whatever is a speed and generation behind in hardware. These allows you to save money (since the newer toys are costly) as well as allowing you to get hardware revisions to fix problems that arose before release. In addition it should be easier to find support in software wise. Also a good rule of thumb is every three years upgrade the hardware(I think that is what we do at work, I think...) Anyway, it really depends on if you have the money to buy what you want then you can get it otherwise just buy what you need to do what you want (get a nice graphics card if you are into games, etc.). I know I am giving all this advice but it took me awhile to buy my own upgrade (1200MHz Athlon and ASUS A7V133) and had trouble deciding too. But I love it and my games run great. Read the reviews and base your buying decisions from there.
 
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