Hmmm..like it never happens..a lot?Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is the second time and this kind of bigotry clearly deserves a ban. This is the first time and hopefully the only I will ask for someone to be banned. Hopefully someone will listen.Originally posted by: TranceNation
probably the same way you can be a catholic priest and rape little boys...
Originally posted by: Medellon
I live in El Paso, Tx. which is 80% Hispanic and probably 80% Catholic though I am unsure about the second claim(it certainly is much more than 50%). Any of you who have lived a majority of your life in the Hispanic community know how religious they claim to be with the pictures of the Virgin Mary painted on walls or tattooed on backs, etc.; the shrines that they set up in their houses with candles and pictures of saints and the many religious medallions they carry.
Catholic doctrine is very strongly opposed to abortion and it is one of the greatest sins and tragedies of humanity. Of course it is a fact that most democrats are for abortion (you can spin it anyway you like, pro-choice, woman's right to choose, health of the mother, etc. but it all boils down to being pro-abortion) and most republicans against. My question is how can you claim to be so religious and pray everyday yet support and vote for a democratric candidate who supports abortion which goes against Catholic teachings? I ask my many Hispanic friends why they (the Hispanic community) as a whole overwhemingly vote democratic yet claim to be so religious and they have no answer. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is the second time and this kind of bigotry clearly deserves a ban. This is the first time and hopefully the only I will ask for someone to be banned. Hopefully someone will listen.Originally posted by: TranceNation
probably the same way you can be a catholic priest and rape little boys...
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
What kind of answer are you looking for? There are several religious people on this board (I'm a Christian myself.) Or are you only looking for people who agree with your opinions and are therefore 'intelligent?'Originally posted by: Medellon
I thought I would receive a few intelligent answers in this forum. It seems to be dominated by hedonistic atheists.
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: Medellon
I live in El Paso, Tx. which is 80% Hispanic and probably 80% Catholic though I am unsure about the second claim(it certainly is much more than 50%). Any of you who have lived a majority of your life in the Hispanic community know how religious they claim to be with the pictures of the Virgin Mary painted on walls or tattooed on backs, etc.; the shrines that they set up in their houses with candles and pictures of saints and the many religious medallions they carry.
Catholic doctrine is very strongly opposed to abortion and it is one of the greatest sins and tragedies of humanity. Of course it is a fact that most democrats are for abortion (you can spin it anyway you like, pro-choice, woman's right to choose, health of the mother, etc. but it all boils down to being pro-abortion) and most republicans against. My question is how can you claim to be so religious and pray everyday yet support and vote for a democratric candidate who supports abortion which goes against Catholic teachings? I ask my many Hispanic friends why they (the Hispanic community) as a whole overwhemingly vote democratic yet claim to be so religious and they have no answer. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
You show a basic lack of knowledge of both Catholicism and Christianity in general. A sis is a sin. In the eyes of god there is no difference between abortion and having impure thoughts. Using your logic Catholics would never be able to support any candidate because they're all sinners and support sin in some way. Luckily most Catholics aren't one issue voters and don't believe in legislating their own morality.
To a answer you question how can a Catholic vote for a pro-choice candidate, easy, we look at the totality of the candidate rather than that one position. And if we feel guilty afterwards we can just go confess.
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion and he is also a Catholic, you just seem to be confused. Also your staticstics seem off to me, at least back in '93 when I lived in El Paso, probably 80% Crhistains were Catholic but the majority of the people I knew though Austin High were not really involved with religion at all.
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is the second time and this kind of bigotry clearly deserves a ban. This is the first time and hopefully the only I will ask for someone to be banned. Hopefully someone will listen.Originally posted by: TranceNation
probably the same way you can be a catholic priest and rape little boys...
Are denying that it happened?
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
Yeah, he supports the woman's right to choose, not abortion...
Talk about splitting hairs:disgust:
Originally posted by: Abraxas
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
Yeah, he supports the woman's right to choose, not abortion...
Talk about splitting hairs:disgust:
I disagree. One can find abortion morally horrific but still believe it is not his right to impose his moral standards on anyone else.
Originally posted by: Abraxas
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
Yeah, he supports the woman's right to choose, not abortion...
Talk about splitting hairs:disgust:
I disagree. One can find abortion morally horrific but still believe it is not his right to impose his moral standards on anyone else.
Originally posted by: Medellon
Originally posted by: Abraxas
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
Yeah, he supports the woman's right to choose, not abortion...
Talk about splitting hairs:disgust:
I disagree. One can find abortion morally horrific but still believe it is not his right to impose his moral standards on anyone else.
So whose standards do we impose? How about a majority? WTF is he doing running for president then?
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Medellon
Originally posted by: Abraxas
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
John Kerry has never supported abortion, so the entier foundation of your of your argument is off base; you are going to have to show a little intelligence yourself if you want an intelligent answers back.
Yeah, he supports the woman's right to choose, not abortion...
Talk about splitting hairs:disgust:
I disagree. One can find abortion morally horrific but still believe it is not his right to impose his moral standards on anyone else.
So whose standards do we impose? How about a majority? WTF is he doing running for president then?
Wow, spoken like a REAL Catholic.
why do you feel the need to impose your moral authority? Or anyone's moral authority for that matter...
you should ask your priest that
No we'll all sprout wings and turn into Cherubs and spend the rest of eternity hanging around with the likes of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Man if that doesn't sound like hell I don't know what does!Originally posted by: Medellon
I'm curious as to what the majority of people in this forum believe happens when we die. I'm guessing reincarnation in the form of some animal.
You're going downhill, fast. This *could* have been a somewhat-intelligent thread.Originally posted by: Medellon
I'm curious as to what the majority of people in this forum believe happens when we die. I'm guessing reincarnation in the form of some animal.
Originally posted by: Medellon
Fine go ahead and let people do whatever they want, yeah that's a good solution.
Originally posted by: Medellon
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Medellon
So whose standards do we impose? How about a majority? WTF is he doing running for president then?
Wow, spoken like a REAL Catholic.
why do you feel the need to impose your moral authority? Or anyone's moral authority for that matter...
you should ask your priest that
Fine go ahead and let people do whatever they want, yeah that's a good solution.
Ignorance is bliss. Thanks for demonstrating why you're such a happy man.Originally posted by: Todd33
Why are they against abortion? Something about killing maybe?
How can you be Catholic and support war? Didn't the pope come out against the war in Iraq? How can you support capitol punishment?
Ya, pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to follow based on the political wind. They can justify anything that their religious leader want to sell them. The politicians using faith to control your voting is sad, too bad none of the sheep see it.
Originally posted by: Medellon
Well maybe the reincarnation bit is a tad off but I think the question is valid.