How come everyone hates McDonalds?

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mrzed

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Originally posted by: Amused
Yes, if you FORCE FEED (past the point of illness) any kind of food, including grains (so not just fats), you can suffer liver damage, obesity, and other ill effects. That's what they do to geese to enlarge their livers to make foie gras.

I'm aware of how foie gras is produced, which is one reason I don't eat it (the other being I find all liver disgusting). But to make the claim:

Forcefeeding results in liver damage and swelling THEREFORE forecefeeding ANY food will have the same effect as any other food

Is completely unsupported.

You've appealed to commn sense (a dubious appeal at best) many times in this thread. Can you not see the common sense that overeating is bad, but overeating foods filled with sugar and saturated fat, and low in vitamins and minerals, is worse?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: mrzed
Originally posted by: Amused
Yes, if you FORCE FEED (past the point of illness) any kind of food, including grains (so not just fats), you can suffer liver damage, obesity, and other ill effects. That's what they do to geese to enlarge their livers to make foie gras.

I'm aware of how foie gras is produced, which is one reason I don't eat it (the other being I find all liver disgusting). But to make the claim:

Forcefeeding results in liver damage and swelling THEREFORE forecefeeding ANY food will have the same effect as any other food

Is completely unsupported.

You've appealed to commn sense (a dubious appeal at best) many times in this thread. Can you not see the common sense that overeating is bad, but overeating foods filled with sugar and saturated fat, and low in vitamins and minerals, is worse?

One is just a quicker way to end up unhealthy.

As I always have said, all things in moderation. Moderation being the key.

That said, the results from Supersize Me could have been obtained with virtually any food, even a well balanced diet. The issue in that "experiment" was force feeding, not bad foods, since the same results could have been obtained with virtually any foods.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused The issue in that "experiment" was force feeding, not bad foods, since the same results could have been obtained with virtually any foods.

i'm not certain you could eat 4000 calories of broccoli a day
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: pkrush
I don't eat there very much anymore. Not that there's anything particularly bad about McDonald's, it's just that pretty much every other place is better. McDonald's has beef processed until it has no texture at all, buns with high fructose corn syrup in them, and that nasty stuff that can barely be called cheese anymore. Well, at least it's uniformly bad.

Actually, McDonald's uses 100% beef in their patties, nearly all bread at all restaurants has HFCS and their cheese is no different than the American Cheese you buy in the supermarket.

72% Lean, I guess it all came from a cow though...
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: pkrush
I don't eat there very much anymore. Not that there's anything particularly bad about McDonald's, it's just that pretty much every other place is better. McDonald's has beef processed until it has no texture at all, buns with high fructose corn syrup in them, and that nasty stuff that can barely be called cheese anymore. Well, at least it's uniformly bad.

Actually, McDonald's uses 100% beef in their patties, nearly all bread at all restaurants has HFCS and their cheese is no different than the American Cheese you buy in the supermarket.

72% Lean, I guess it all came from a cow though...

Care to cite your source on that %?

McDonald's burgers are made from 80% lean beef.

"McDonald's hamburgers are 100 percent pure domestic beef without fillers or seasonings. To maintain our customers' expectations and preference for lean, flavorful hamburgers, we carefully select fine cuts of grain fed beef and leaner cuts from dairy cattle. This is a typical combination for quality ground beef. More importantly, we have found that this combination results in a flavorful hamburger that also has a significantly lower percentage of fat (20 percent) than the government limits (30 percent).
 

natep

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I don't really hate McDonald's. It taste pretty good, although too much of it does make me feel like crap.

It's hard not to ignore them when Taco Bell is right next door and has awesome food for $2. Yes, awesome food.
 

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Originally posted by: natep
I don't really hate McDonald's. It taste pretty good, although too much of it does make me feel like crap.

It's hard not to ignore them when Taco Bell is right next door and has awesome food for $2. Yes, awesome food.

Hey, I understand. I always get "awesome" and "mediocre" confused too.
 

thegimp03

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I don't mind McDonald's...although it's not usually my first choice for fast food when I eat it.
 

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Originally posted by: DoobieOnline
I love McDonald's, especially the McRib. I wish they weren't retiring it!

I actually worked for McDonald's for a few months as a teenager. It is probably one of the main reasons I can't stand most fast food now. Your comment about the McRib's brought back some memories... they would leave the so-called ribs (fake obviously) sitting in this container on the stove for 2 - 3 hours without cooking a new one. Someone would come and get a mcrib and it would be 2 hours old, with a layer of grease floating on top of the mixture they let it soak in... *puke*

The sad thing is that I used to love McRib's before working there, ugh.
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: pkrush
I don't eat there very much anymore. Not that there's anything particularly bad about McDonald's, it's just that pretty much every other place is better. McDonald's has beef processed until it has no texture at all, buns with high fructose corn syrup in them, and that nasty stuff that can barely be called cheese anymore. Well, at least it's uniformly bad.

Actually, McDonald's uses 100% beef in their patties, nearly all bread at all restaurants has HFCS and their cheese is no different than the American Cheese you buy in the supermarket.

72% Lean, I guess it all came from a cow though...

Care to cite your source on that %?

McDonald's burgers are made from 80% lean beef.

"McDonald's hamburgers are 100 percent pure domestic beef without fillers or seasonings. To maintain our customers' expectations and preference for lean, flavorful hamburgers, we carefully select fine cuts of grain fed beef and leaner cuts from dairy cattle. This is a typical combination for quality ground beef. More importantly, we have found that this combination results in a flavorful hamburger that also has a significantly lower percentage of fat (20 percent) than the government limits (30 percent).

Actually my roommate last year at college emailed them, I'll contact him and see if I can get their reply posted up here.

Nat

*Either way, that's 20% fat, calling that 100% beef is misleading. Wasn't there a big hullabaloo about that in the not so distant past?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: pkrush
I don't eat there very much anymore. Not that there's anything particularly bad about McDonald's, it's just that pretty much every other place is better. McDonald's has beef processed until it has no texture at all, buns with high fructose corn syrup in them, and that nasty stuff that can barely be called cheese anymore. Well, at least it's uniformly bad.

Actually, McDonald's uses 100% beef in their patties, nearly all bread at all restaurants has HFCS and their cheese is no different than the American Cheese you buy in the supermarket.

72% Lean, I guess it all came from a cow though...

Care to cite your source on that %?

McDonald's burgers are made from 80% lean beef.

"McDonald's hamburgers are 100 percent pure domestic beef without fillers or seasonings. To maintain our customers' expectations and preference for lean, flavorful hamburgers, we carefully select fine cuts of grain fed beef and leaner cuts from dairy cattle. This is a typical combination for quality ground beef. More importantly, we have found that this combination results in a flavorful hamburger that also has a significantly lower percentage of fat (20 percent) than the government limits (30 percent).

Actually my roommate last year at college emailed them, I'll contact him and see if I can get their reply posted up here.

Nat

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_097b.html

Second Q&A
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: pkrush
I don't eat there very much anymore. Not that there's anything particularly bad about McDonald's, it's just that pretty much every other place is better. McDonald's has beef processed until it has no texture at all, buns with high fructose corn syrup in them, and that nasty stuff that can barely be called cheese anymore. Well, at least it's uniformly bad.

Actually, McDonald's uses 100% beef in their patties, nearly all bread at all restaurants has HFCS and their cheese is no different than the American Cheese you buy in the supermarket.

72% Lean, I guess it all came from a cow though...

Care to cite your source on that %?

McDonald's burgers are made from 80% lean beef.

"McDonald's hamburgers are 100 percent pure domestic beef without fillers or seasonings. To maintain our customers' expectations and preference for lean, flavorful hamburgers, we carefully select fine cuts of grain fed beef and leaner cuts from dairy cattle. This is a typical combination for quality ground beef. More importantly, we have found that this combination results in a flavorful hamburger that also has a significantly lower percentage of fat (20 percent) than the government limits (30 percent).

Actually my roommate last year at college emailed them, I'll contact him and see if I can get their reply posted up here.

Nat

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_097b.html

Second Q&A

Ok, that's cool, but he contacted McDonalds directly and I saw the reply.

lol at a source from 1992!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn

Ok, that's cool, but he contacted McDonalds directly and I saw the reply.

lol at a source from 1992!

Why would McDonald's change their policy between then and now?

That was a direct reply from McDonald's as well.
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn

Ok, that's cool, but he contacted McDonalds directly and I saw the reply.

lol at a source from 1992!

Why would McDonald's change their policy between then and now?

That was a direct reply from McDonald's as well.

Profits would be a good answer for changing that policy from 15 years ago...

If you notice 70% lean would be the federal limit (may have changed as well, I don't know).

I'll post the reply once I get my hands on it.

Nat
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn

Ok, that's cool, but he contacted McDonalds directly and I saw the reply.

lol at a source from 1992!

Why would McDonald's change their policy between then and now?

That was a direct reply from McDonald's as well.

Profits would be a good answer for changing that policy from 15 years ago...

If you notice 70% lean would be the federal limit (may have changed as well, I don't know).

I'll post the reply once I get my hands on it.

Nat

Well, I found another source. The McDonald's made me fat lawsuit from New York in 2003. The plantiff claims McDonald's burgers are 77.5% lean.

Page 23:
http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com...docs/mcdonalds/pelmanmcds21203acmp.pdf
 

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I'm not going to read all 400 posts, but someone cliff note me by PM please basically why there are so many posts
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: blckgrffn

Ok, that's cool, but he contacted McDonalds directly and I saw the reply.

lol at a source from 1992!

Why would McDonald's change their policy between then and now?

That was a direct reply from McDonald's as well.

Profits would be a good answer for changing that policy from 15 years ago...

If you notice 70% lean would be the federal limit (may have changed as well, I don't know).

I'll post the reply once I get my hands on it.

Nat

Well, I found another source. The McDonald's made me fat lawsuit from New York in 2003. The plantiff claims McDonald's burgers are 77.5% lean.

Page 23:
http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com...docs/mcdonalds/pelmanmcds21203acmp.pdf

lol, good find Nice way to put the suit...

I am still waiting on my buddy, it might be a couple of days. Darn grad students, studying and such
 

blckgrffn

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Here is what my buddy, Trav, got straight from the "cows" mouth on this one:

The correspondence went like this. On May 14 of 2004, I emailed
McDonald's about the leanness of their hamburger. I didn't get a
response from an actual human being until the 18th (email #1).
*
*I initially thought that McDonald's was giving me the runaround. "...I
do not have the answer to your question and must conduct some research
to provide you with an accurate response." I figured I'd never hear
from them again. But lo and behold, they followed through (email #2).
*
*So there you have it. Let me know if you have any trouble opening the
emails. Also, there's an attachment with the emails that you probably
won't get since I saved them as HTML. The attachment is a text file
with the following:

The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents is
confidential, may be privileged, and is intended solely for the person
and/or
entity to whom it is addressed (i.e. those identified in the "To" and "cc"
box). They are the property of McDonald's Corporation. Unauthorized
review,use,
disclosure, or copying of this communication, or any part thereof, is
strictly
prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error,
please return the e-mail and attachments to the sender and delete the e-mail
and attachments and any copy from your system. McDonald's thanks you
for your
cooperation.


EMAIL #1
From: McDonaldsCorporation@mcd.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:11 AM
To: xxxx.xxxx@wartburg.edu
Subject: Message from McDonald's Corp.

Attachments: ATT00003.txt

Hello Travis:

Thank you for taking the time to contact McDonald's.

We truly appreciate when customers take the time to share their comments or questions with us. However, at this time, I do not have the answer to your question and must conduct some research to provide you with an accurate response. I will reply as soon as I have this information.

Again, thanks for e-mailing McDonald's. We appreciate your patience and understanding.



Leslie
McDonald's Customer Satisfaction Department

ref#:2072273

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You wrote:

I was wondering what percent lean ground beef McDonald's typically uses in their burgers; the website and nutrition information simply says that it is USDA inspected.

Thanks!

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EMAIL #2


From: McDonaldsCorporation@mcd.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:22 AM
To: xxxx.xxxx@wartburg.edu
Subject: Message from McDonald's Corp.

Attachments: ATT00003.txt

Hello Travis:



Thank you for contacting McDonald's. I'm sorry you've had difficulty obtaining specific nutritional information for our hamburger beef patties.

In response to your inquiry, our beef patties have a 76% lean meat content. We hope you find this information helpful.



Again, thank you for contacting McDonald's. We look forward to serving you for many years to come.

Leslie
McDonald's Customer Response Center

ref#:2093907

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So, I remembered wrong and it is 76%

I don't know that stacks up to other fast food joints, but I certainly wouldn't it sets any great standards for quality and healthiness.

Nat
 

Nutdotnet

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I call McD's by a different name: McSh*tFvcks.

I grew up in a REAL small town (300 pop) during high-school (which depresses me that it's been nearly 10 years). The town itself is surrounded by glaciers so the only way to get there is by plane or boat.

Whenever we'd take a boat to go back home we'd always have some time to kill, typically this involved stopping at the local McD's to eat.

That s*it would always upset my stomach...just feel like a brick in my gut...nasty...nasty...nasty.

I'll occasionaly eat a grilled chicken from there, but everything else...hell no.
 

tealk

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Originally posted by: tealk
Ok No lie here.....Good story though....

McDonalds about 3 years ago was caught serving HORSE meat. Yes Horse meat. They were secretly buying horse meat from older horses that were slaughtered. This was a HUGE hush hush, settlement on there part of out court.....Beleive me....It cost them in the upwards of over 100 million to settle and make it not publically known. I am 100% serious.....believe what you want. But for those of you who do beleive me....remember the next time you wwant to eat there.....

I have no reason to lie.....I heard from...you know what whatever I say you wont beleive...so just keep eating there.....I really couldn't care less....but as for me and my family.....not on there life.
 

LesterL

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I don't hate McDonalds. I suppose a lot out there do.

I love how a poster up above was alluding to the possibility that since their meat was 80% lean beef, that the other 20% must be some mystery meat, that's pretty funny. I make my burgers at home with 86% lean, that works the best on the grill in my experience.

MCD's and Wendy's are the only places around here you can fill up for $3, besides the taco truck, which luckily parks right across the street from my work. The truck is the ultimate! When Weinerschnitzel has 2 chili cheese dogs or burgers for $2.22, that's pretty killer too - blows away 7-11 chili cheese.

I can't stand Subway. I can't get full without dropping $8 there. Similar situation at Arby's and Weinerschnitzel when the sale isn't on.

All those folks who say they eat cheaper and better at home are wrong wrong too. I cook occasional dinners at home and a LOT of weekend meals at home, but on the average work night who the hell has time to be doing all that food prep? If you charge yourself $6.00/hour for the cooking and cleaning involved and figure in the extra utility costs in addition to your grocery bill, The difference in price is much higher.

Typically I'll grab dinner on the way home from KFC on chicken fried steak tuesdays. A mexican joint that has Pozole for $5.00 or Caldo de Res for $6.00 or a full pork plate with salad for $7.00. There's also a Thai joint that has Spicy pork plate for $5.00 or Thom Kha Gai for $8.00. If ya can't tell, I <3 soup. I'll have anywhere between a pint and a quart of fresh veggies with plain yoghurt on 'em for desert - that I grab at the grocery store.

EDIT cuz I misspelled res
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: tealk
Originally posted by: tealk
Ok No lie here.....Good story though....

McDonalds about 3 years ago was caught serving HORSE meat. Yes Horse meat. They were secretly buying horse meat from older horses that were slaughtered. This was a HUGE hush hush, settlement on there part of out court.....Beleive me....It cost them in the upwards of over 100 million to settle and make it not publically known. I am 100% serious.....believe what you want. But for those of you who do beleive me....remember the next time you wwant to eat there.....

I have no reason to lie.....I heard from...you know what whatever I say you wont beleive...so just keep eating there.....I really couldn't care less....but as for me and my family.....not on there life.

THEIR life.

<--- Grammar nazi
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: tealk
Originally posted by: tealk
Ok No lie here.....Good story though....

McDonalds about 3 years ago was caught serving HORSE meat. Yes Horse meat. They were secretly buying horse meat from older horses that were slaughtered. This was a HUGE hush hush, settlement on there part of out court.....Beleive me....It cost them in the upwards of over 100 million to settle and make it not publically known. I am 100% serious.....believe what you want. But for those of you who do beleive me....remember the next time you wwant to eat there.....

I have no reason to lie.....I heard from...you know what whatever I say you wont beleive...so just keep eating there.....I really couldn't care less....but as for me and my family.....not on there life.

Riiiiight. :roll:
 
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