How come everyone hates McDonalds?

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shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Not the restaurants and food I order... Don't know where you go...
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant.

Yep:

McDonald's Hamburger (260 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/33 g carbs)
Wendy's Jr. Hamburger (280 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/34 g carbs)
Arby's Regular Roast Beef (320 cal/14 g fat/2 g fiber/34 g carbs)

McDonald's Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich w/o mayo (370 cal/4.5 g fat/3 g fiber/51 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)
Arby's Chicken Fillet Sandwich: Grilled (414 cal/17 g fat/3 g fiber/36 g carbs) (less w/o mayo)

Umm, those aren't restaurants.. I don't go to any of those places...
 

Malak

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Health should be a non-issue. If it were an issue, you wouldn't be going to any fast food place except maybe Subway. Bang for buck is the issue. For the same price I can go to Arby's and get a much better meal. For only like a dollar more I can go to Applebees or Red Robin and get an even greater meal. I don't do fast food much anymore though, because for the same price of one fast food meal I can feed myself for a week.
 

Al Neri

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McDonners is pretty good in a pinch... and it makes me moneys too!!!!!

eat IT UP!!!
 

jemcam

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Okay, I know what you're all going to say, McDonalds serve the nastiest food under the heavens and you wouldn't stomach it for $10000.

Then why did you ask? Your assumption is correct.

Tasty? I'd rather eat dog vomit.
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Accurate? Say how? You're comparing double beef to chicken?

McDonald's Hamburger
Serving Size: 100 g

Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich
Serving Size: 230 g

Actually, you're right, I should have compared 2.3 hamburgers to a wendy's chicken, not just two. Correction then:

2.3 x McDonald's Hamburger (598 cal/20.7 g fat/2.3 g fiber/75.9 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Even more unhealthy on diect comparison! Congrats Raduque!
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I know. It's weird but I shudder at the very thought of eating McDs but will gladly chow down on a Whopper. Go figure.

That's because it reminds you of the horrid times you had working there . I worked at one when I was younger, but I don't mind going there. I enjoy a nice grilled chicken ranch salad... except I wish they'd dice the chicken instead of making it into strips. For how anal McDonalds is about their pickles (they have to be placed just right so there's a "pickle in every bite"), they sure don't care that the chicken lasts the whole salad.

Oh and them chicken wraps are good too, but a bit expensive for what they come with...

Originally posted by: Amused
And to further bust your myths: The only trans fats in a McDonald's burger is from the trace of Margarine used on the burgers while cooking and a trace in the buns... which you'll find in any bread served at virtually any restaurant.

Unless they've changed, they don't cook the patties with any sort of anti-stick solution (such as margarine or PAM). The patties only cook for about 40 seconds and there's a removable teflon material that goes on the top clamshell.

Originally posted by: Slackware
The thing is, is it healthy eating? I say it is not, you say it is.

You explain to me how white bread filled with trans fatty acids and a few grams of beef with a side of fries is healthy eating, especially with HFCS coke to go with it.

Explain to me how that will NOT lower your insulin sensitivity if you keep eating that (and in the end that will cause the LDL to rise, lowered insuln sensitivity always does).

I guess some lard and a keg of beer every night would be even worse but not much.

I don't recall anyone saying that McDonalds food is the crème de la crème of health foods, Slackware. The rebuttals against your comments are that McDonalds isn't the "devil's food" that naysayers make it out to be. Sure, it isn't exactly the most healthy food ever, but I guarantee you can find worse things to eat (and without going on Fear Factor ).

Originally posted by: Slackware
The buns are white bread and the meat is what, 46 grams uncooked?

The normal patties are 1/10 of a pound uncooked (or maybe it's 1/8.. been awhile). Quarter pounders are 1/4 of a pound uncooked .

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
In any case, McD's food is garbage, and no matter how many times Amused types it, my foreman grilled hamburgers at home are much, much healthier than anything I can buy out.

Not if you buy bargain bin meat :roll:. Just because it's cooked on a Foreman grill doesn't make it ungodly healthier. I've seen and used Foreman grills and there's still grease left on the grill while cooking and just as much as you'd see at McDonalds (unless the people don't follow procedure and clean it after every "wave" of patties).
 

rh71

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Don't be a big-guy hater.

Originally posted by: MrFire8808
I dont like really any fast food because I cannot see the ingredients raw, I cannot see my food made, and I dont know who the hell is making it.... Did they even wash their hands? wtf!
what doesn't kill you... should be enjoyed thoroughly.
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Not if you buy bargain bin meat :roll:. Just because it's cooked on a Foreman grill doesn't make it ungodly healthier. I've seen and used Foreman grills and there's still grease left on the grill while cooking and just as much as you'd see at McDonalds (unless the people don't follow procedure and clean it after every "wave" of patties).

Actually, I don't use a foreman grill, I use a brand that I doubt they sell in most places. And contrary to what you think, my doctor showed a group of his patients the difference in fats, calories, and other unhealthy ingredients between one prepared at home the way he advocates versus a fast food burger or a fried one. The difference was immense, especially over time (even if you only this stuff 2-3x a month).

I'll take his demonstration over your word. k.thx.bye.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Actually, I don't use a foreman grill, I use a brand that I doubt they sell in most places. And contrary to what you think, my doctor showed a group of his patients the difference in fats, calories, and other unhealthy ingredients between one prepared at home the way he advocates versus a fast food burger or a fried one. The difference was immense, especially over time (even if you only this stuff 2-3x a month).

I'll take his demonstration over your word. k.thx.bye.

Ahh I'm sorry, I didn't realize your doctor was also a master of culinary arts :roll:.

Also, all the grills are the same, they're a slanted grill that has a grease catch basin. There's also ways to make your burger "more healthy" at McDonalds as well. Such as requesting no salt (seasoning actually), you can do it! I've had to make 'em before (and boy was that irritating).
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Slackware
Amused, so a white bread filled with mostly saturated fatty acids is your choice for a healthy meal?

Side of french fries?

Who in the FVCK goes to McDonalds to pay for an overpriced bag of vegetables that are nerver really fresh after 8:30?

Get yourself some meat with the bun and not all artificial cheese and sauce that is basically hardened vegetable trans fatty acids and E482.

Again, the buns, cheese and meat at McDonalds are virtually no different from the buns and meat at any restaurant... fast food or sit down. The cheese is the same Kraft American Cheese you buy at any supermarket. The buns are identical to 90+% of the buns you'll find at any supermarket and the beef is 100% pure ground beef.

And to further bust your myths: The only trans fats in a McDonald's burger is from the trace of Margarine used on the burgers while cooking and a trace in the buns... which you'll find in any bread served at virtually any restaurant.
That's why I don't eat that sh!t , whether at fast food joints or at a sit down Resturaunt. I do eat it occasionally at home but my burgers are a lot healtheir and tastier than any burger you get at a fast food joint and a lot healthier than you get at a sit down eatery.

BTW who in their right minds eats margarine these days?

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Not the restaurants and food I order... Don't know where you go...

Chili's Cheese Burger (Chili's does not list trans fats):

Cal 880
Fat: 51
Sat Fat: 17
Sod: 1330

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:

Cal: 510
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Sod: 1190

Because of portion sizes the Burger meals at most sit down restaurants are usually unhealthier for you than fast food.

Folks, beef is beef, white bread is white bread. To think that McDonald's somehow uses unhealthier ingredients is just pure ignorance.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Not the restaurants and food I order... Don't know where you go...

Chili's Cheese Burger (Chili's does not list trans fats):

Cal 880
Fat: 51
Sat Fat: 17
Sod: 1330

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:

Cal: 510
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Sod: 1190

Because of portion sizes the Burger meals at most sit down restaurnts are usually unhealthier for you than fast food.

Folks, beef is beef, white bread is white bread. To think that McDonald's somehow uses unhealtheir ingredients is just pure ignorance.
I agree, if you eat something unhealthy at a sit down retaurant it's no better than the unhealthy crap you eat at McDonalds.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Accurate? Say how? You're comparing double beef to chicken?

McDonald's Hamburger
Serving Size: 100 g

Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich
Serving Size: 230 g

Actually, you're right, I should have compared 2.3 hamburgers to a wendy's chicken, not just two. Correction then:

2.3 x McDonald's Hamburger (598 cal/20.7 g fat/2.3 g fiber/75.9 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Even more unhealthy on diect comparison! Congrats Raduque!

He was comparing chicken to chicken and burger to burger among fast food restaurants. How did you get to burger to chicken?
 

Leros

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I personally don't like McDonalds. Their french fries are pretty good, but their beef patties are disgusting. I just don't like the taste. However, they do serve a decent breakfast.
 

ScottFern

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I think once the average person can open their eyes and try other foods and restaurants it becomes quite clear that McDonald's is a poor substitute for a quality meal. It's not trendy its just something people realize once they grow up and can afford nicer meals. I have no ill will towards McDonald's but I don't feel its a great meal by any stretch. Besides I feel awful after I eat there. Physically.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant.

Yep:

McDonald's Hamburger (260 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/33 g carbs)
Wendy's Jr. Hamburger (280 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/34 g carbs)
Arby's Regular Roast Beef (320 cal/14 g fat/2 g fiber/34 g carbs)

McDonald's Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich w/o mayo (370 cal/4.5 g fat/3 g fiber/51 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)
Arby's Chicken Fillet Sandwich: Grilled (414 cal/17 g fat/3 g fiber/36 g carbs) (less w/o mayo)

Thats ridiculous. Double the portions for the top 3 to compare. A Wendy's chicken sandwich has much more meat than the top 2.

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

I'm not even sure what is on the "ultimate", but I usually get the spicy chicken without anything on it except lettuce & I toss half the bun cause I dont need all the carbs/cals, so you can reduce those counts even further.

In any case, McD's food is garbage, and no matter how many times Amused types it, my foreman grilled hamburgers at home are much, much healthier than anything I can buy out.

You really need a lesson in reading comprehension.

He was comparing nurtritional info among burgers. And then compaired nutritional info among chicken sandwiches.

How in the hell you read that post, and saw a comparison of burger to chicken is beyond me.

He was simply proving that the foods at McDonald's are no less healthy than the IDENTICAL foods served at any other restaurant, sit down or fast food.

And yes, we all know how you buy beef from anorexic tofu eating cows, grill it on your super duper Dr prescribed grill and eat it on whole grain buns. We're all very proud of you... especially yourself.

Now, this is not how the vast majority make their burgers at home. So your example is pointless, moot, and kind of a silly response to my points.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
it becomes quite clear that McDonald's is a poor substitute for a quality meal.

Are you fvcking serious? Who would have thought that!

Some of you are blowing this way out of proportion.
What do you expect for $5-6? Filet mignon & steamed asparagus?

McDonalds has a market and purpose and they do it well. The OP generalizes the entire world population into assuming everyone hates McDonalds and its all nasty.
Well damn.. if McDonalds was so goddamn nasty and everyone hated it, how come they are still in business? McDonalds is one of the oldest fast food chains in existance today. They maintain a worldwide presence, so apparently McDonalds is doing something right.
 

AMCRambler

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McDick's tastes great. I eat there every now and then when I get a craving. Problem is, it makes me go. My friend has noticed that too. Eat there and guarranteed you gotta drop a deuce in under three hours. We call it McLaxatives now.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
And yes, we all know how you buy beef from anorexic tofu eating cows, grill it on your super duper Dr prescribed grill and eat it on whole grain buns. We're all very proud of you... especially yourself.
Yeah right, nobody's more proud of themselves than you:roll:

Now, this is not how the vast majority make their burgers at home. So your example is pointless, moot, and kind of a silly response to my points.
And the Majority of them will have weight/health issues when they reach 50.
 

Tobolo

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When I want to be un healthy I get the big thing of chicken nuggets and fries and the eat them together at the same time, its like orgasam across my pallet ::homer drooling::
 

QuantumPion

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I like mcdonalds in general, but it depends on the specific restaurant. Some are clean and have cooks that prepare the sandwiches neatly, while others just throw crap together and don't care. The new nuggets are pretty good, but you have to admit the old ones were awful. Bacon egg and cheese bagels rule.

I will never ever go to Arby's though, I've gone there maybe 3 times in my life and all three times I became violently ill within an hour after. Violently ill = vomiting, diarrhea, cramps, etc.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
And yes, we all know how you buy beef from anorexic tofu eating cows, grill it on your super duper Dr prescribed grill and eat it on whole grain buns. We're all very proud of you... especially yourself.
Yeah right, nobody's more proud of themselves than you:roll:

Now, this is not how the vast majority make their burgers at home. So your example is pointless, moot, and kind of a silly response to my points.
And the Majority of them will have weight/health issues when they reach 50.

I don't. I buy Ground Round rather than sirloin because I hate a dry, chewy burger. I do eat whole wheat buns though, but only because I like to sh!t.

I'm 40 with no weight issues. My blood pressure and cholesterol are fine, too.

And how is proving a fact "proud of myself?" All I am trying to do here is dispell a very irrational myth.

I'm not the one on this board sh!tting all over other people's choices. I'm not the one telling them how they should live. I'm not the beer elitist, food elitist, computer part elitist, nor am I the one telling everyone their taste in anything sucks. I'm not the one telling people their car sucks. Finally, I'm not the one telling people their girlfriend is ugly.

No, this board is filled with people like that, and you try and tell me *I* have a problem with pride? Give me a break, Red.
 
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