How come everyone hates McDonalds?

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Atheus
Although it is very tasty, it is a complete ripoff for what you get in terms of nutrition.

People don't know this, and so they feed it to their children, eat it every day for lunch, and then they wonder why they feel like sh1t in the morning and their kids have ADD.

McDonalds does not care.

That is why everyone hates them.

Every item you buy at McD's has the basic nutritional info right on the f'n wrapper.

Calories, fat, carbs, protein ect.

Maybe at yours, but no McD's around here does that.

Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Accurate? Say how? You're comparing double beef to chicken?

McDonald's Hamburger
Serving Size: 100 g

Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich
Serving Size: 230 g

Actually, you're right, I should have compared 2.3 hamburgers to a wendy's chicken, not just two. Correction then:

2.3 x McDonald's Hamburger (598 cal/20.7 g fat/2.3 g fiber/75.9 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Even more unhealthy on diect comparison! Congrats Raduque!

He was comparing chicken to chicken and burger to burger among fast food restaurants. How did you get to burger to chicken?

He was comparing unequal portion sizes. That was the point. Which is something you yourself brought up in a subsequent post. At least I agree with you that some sit down places have bigger portions which = unhealthier, but not on a lb for lb basis. McD's still fries their burgers, which is nasty and more unhealthy. At least if you grill them, the fat can burn and run off - gimme a Weber and some charcoal and you have a healthier burger than McD's.

And I was comparing chicken to burgers because I wont eat that McCrapBurger. I do eat a couple spicy chickens per month tho.

Um, no. He was compairing roughly equal size burgers to burgers and equal size chicken sandwiches to chicken sandwiches from competing resturants.

Exactly. I showed the nutritional info for similar sandiwches from competing restaurants. That's why I chose Wendy's Jr. hamburger, as the Classic Single was bigger than McDonald's hamburger. McDonald's lists their hamburger as 3.7 oz total. Wendy's lists the Jr. hamburger as having a 2 oz patty, and the Classic Single as having a 1/4 lb patty. I doubt the 3.7 oz McD hamburger was for the patty only, because why is the quarter pounder (4 oz) bigger? (OK, the quarter pounder is listed as 6.1 oz, so I'm right)

I can compare both places 1/4 pounders too:
McD Quarter Pounder [6.1 oz] (420 cal/18 g fat/3 g fiber/40 g carbs)
Wendy's Classic Single w/Everything [1/4 lb. Patty/Mayonnaise/Ketchup/Mustard/Dill Pickles/Onion/Tomato/Lettuce/Sandwich Bun] (420 cal/19 g fat/2 g fiber/37 g carbs)
Classic Single: Plain [1/4 lb. Patty/Sandwich Bun] (370 cal/16 g fat/1 g fiber/31 g carbs)

And who's Spicy Chicken are you eating, Advocate?
McD Hot 'n Spicy McChicken [5.1 oz] (380 cal/17 g fat/1 g fiber/42 g carbs)
Wendy's Spicy Chicken Fillet Sandwich (510 cal/19 g fat/2 g fiber/57 g carbs)

Might as well have a Big Mac (560 cal/30 g fat/3 g fiber/47 g carbs)


Comparing how much worse 2 hamburgers are to Wendy's chicken is stupid. You can also compare how much worse 2 of Wendy's Jr. hamburgers are to their own chicken, and it would say the same. Or better yet, compare how much worse 4 Big Macs are to 1 Wendy's grilled chicken. That would prove Wendy's is healthier. :roll:

And then tell me how much better Linux is than Windows, and AMD is better than Intel.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

McDonald's has universal standards and practices. If your local McDonald's is not following those, call corporate and rat them out.

 

[mchammer]

WENDYS FTW

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm cool with Mcdonald's. I enjoy their fries, burgers, and nuggets. They also make the best damn Coke around.

They make Coke?

Yep, Coke doesn't ship out the final product to food places. They get the syrup and mix it with carbonated water. McDonald's does the best job of anyone.

Do you think that every McDonald's actually mixes the syrup the same way? My point is that it is not a McDonald's product - just something some guy is mixing together, and I doubt it is something held uniform across the franchise.

joshsquall is right and I know what he means. McDonald's must have a corporate policy of making sure the soda fountains are calibrated and working properly. I drink the diet coke at McD's and it's definitely better than some of the convenience stores around here. You would think something like that is hard to mess up but it's really not.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm cool with Mcdonald's. I enjoy their fries, burgers, and nuggets. They also make the best damn Coke around.

They make Coke?

Yep, Coke doesn't ship out the final product to food places. They get the syrup and mix it with carbonated water. McDonald's does the best job of anyone.

Do you think that every McDonald's actually mixes the syrup the same way? My point is that it is not a McDonald's product - just something some guy is mixing together, and I doubt it is something held uniform across the franchise.

joshsquall is right and I know what he means. McDonald's must have a corporate policy of making sure the soda fountains are calibrated and working properly. I drink the diet coke at McD's and it's definitely better than some of the convenience stores around here. You would think something like that is hard to mess up but it's really not.

Actually I'm willing to bet he is not right, as I have tasted a difference in soda from different McDonald's locations. Hell you can notice a change from day to day at almost any place that has a soda fountain.

 

[JS80]

i like the taste, hate the consequences.

 

[TheDro]

Mcdonalds, & BK are crap in the states, its much better in Europe, even if the portions are smaller or if they charge you for refills or extra ketchup. Burger King in Germany used to have a delicious chicken sandwich served on some sort of long bread with flour sprinkled over it, and served with swiss cheese. McDonalds in Germany has some really plain tasting fries, but eating their food doesn't make you feel like crap like American Mcdonalds does (itis). Also ordering a beer with your meal in Mcdonalds or BK just makes Europe more kickass.

Only fast food I'd touch in the states is Chic-fil-a, Subway, Quiznos, Jason's Deli, Firehouse subs, Chicken Express, Freebirds or Wings N More if I'm in TX. & Varsity in ATL, wanna try In n Out burger someday.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

McDonald's has universal standards and practices. If your local McDonald's is not following those, call corporate and rat them out.

I really don't care that much. In any event, nutritional info AFTER you have purchased an item isn't nearly as useful as, say, Subway's nutritional info available BEFORE you have purchased an item. I would say Subway's nutritional info would be easier to obtain than McD's, especially since many of their commercials advertise it.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

McDonald's has universal standards and practices. If your local McDonald's is not following those, call corporate and rat them out.

I really don't care that much. In any event, nutritional info AFTER you have purchased an item isn't nearly as useful as, say, Subway's nutritional info available BEFORE you have purchased an item. I would say Subway's nutritional info would be easier to obtain than McD's, especially since many of their commercials advertise it.

Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

 

[JS80]

Amused has thoroughly pwned in a coherent manner all opponents in this thread.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Atheus
Although it is very tasty, it is a complete ripoff for what you get in terms of nutrition.

People don't know this, and so they feed it to their children, eat it every day for lunch, and then they wonder why they feel like sh1t in the morning and their kids have ADD.

McDonalds does not care.

That is why everyone hates them.

Now wait, McDonald's serves the same exact food any other burger joint does, fast or sit-down. Why would you single out McDonald's?

Because this thread is about McDonalds? It's right there in the title.

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Atheus
Although it is very tasty, it is a complete ripoff for what you get in terms of nutrition.

People don't know this, and so they feed it to their children, eat it every day for lunch, and then they wonder why they feel like sh1t in the morning and their kids have ADD.

McDonalds does not care.

That is why everyone hates them.

Every item you buy at McD's has the basic nutritional info right on the f'n wrapper.

Calories, fat, carbs, protein ect.

Maybe at yours, but no McD's around here does that.

Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

And that makes it good does it? No. Those numbers show the food to be high in calories and fat, but nobody knows what they mean, if they even bother to read them in the first place.

Not that high calories are a bad thing, but what are you getting from those calories at McDonalds? Certainly not a good selection of the vitamins and minerals we need every day.

Why are you defending them anyway?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

McDonald's has universal standards and practices. If your local McDonald's is not following those, call corporate and rat them out.

I really don't care that much. In any event, nutritional info AFTER you have purchased an item isn't nearly as useful as, say, Subway's nutritional info available BEFORE you have purchased an item. I would say Subway's nutritional info would be easier to obtain than McD's, especially since many of their commercials advertise it.

Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

If you eat certain sandwiches, then yes you could lose weight eating their food. Not sure why you are laughing.

 

[Rob9874]

Persoanlly, I'm not defending McDonald's. Can't remember the last time I went there. If I do get fast food, I'll get a grilled chicken and chili from Wendy's, or roast beef from Arby's. Mainly for variety. I'm just squashing the myth that McDonald's is less healthy. McDonald's has "less unhealthy" choices like grilled chicken, just like Wendy's does, and Wendy's hamburgers are just as bad as McDonald's. Saying McDonald's is less healthy is justification to knock the most popular choice (ala Microsoft, iPod, AOL, Intel, etc.)

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Atheus
Although it is very tasty, it is a complete ripoff for what you get in terms of nutrition.

People don't know this, and so they feed it to their children, eat it every day for lunch, and then they wonder why they feel like sh1t in the morning and their kids have ADD.

McDonalds does not care.

That is why everyone hates them.

Now wait, McDonald's serves the same exact food any other burger joint does, fast or sit-down. Why would you single out McDonald's?

Because this thread is about McDonalds? It's right there in the title.

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Atheus
Although it is very tasty, it is a complete ripoff for what you get in terms of nutrition.

People don't know this, and so they feed it to their children, eat it every day for lunch, and then they wonder why they feel like sh1t in the morning and their kids have ADD.

McDonalds does not care.

That is why everyone hates them.

Every item you buy at McD's has the basic nutritional info right on the f'n wrapper.

Calories, fat, carbs, protein ect.

Maybe at yours, but no McD's around here does that.

Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

And that makes it good does it? No. Those numbers show the food to be high in calories and fat, but nobody knows what they mean, if they even bother to read them in the first place.

Not that high calories are a bad thing, but what are you getting from those calories at McDonalds? Certainly not a good selection of the vitamins and minerals we need every day.

Why are you defending them anyway?

:::sigh:::

I am defending rational thought.

McDonald's food is no worse for you than any other resturant for the identical foods.

In fact, the burgers at most sit-down restaurants are worse for you simply because they are much bigger.

This thread is about why everyone singles out McDonald's for their hate, while claiming to love foods from other restaurants that are equally as bad for them, if not worse.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, if not on the wrapper, it is prominently displayed on the wall, and on the tray liners. The nutritional info for McDonald's food is the easiest to get of any restaurant in the world.

Wow, so you've been to a McD's down here? They don't even place tray liners on the trays, so if it is on those, it is not readily available.

McDonald's has universal standards and practices. If your local McDonald's is not following those, call corporate and rat them out.

I really don't care that much. In any event, nutritional info AFTER you have purchased an item isn't nearly as useful as, say, Subway's nutritional info available BEFORE you have purchased an item. I would say Subway's nutritional info would be easier to obtain than McD's, especially since many of their commercials advertise it.

Again, McDonald's nutritional info is posted on the walls, in pamphlets at the counter, and on tray liners. It is FAR easier to get than Subway's simply because it is posted in more places.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, McDonald's nutritional info is posted on the walls, in pamphlets at the counter, and on tray liners. It is FAR easier to get than Subway's simply because it is posted in more places.

Well, since you are one for rational thought and supportive evidence, could you provide evidence that states it is corporate policy for McDonald's to display nutritional information on wrappers, walls, pamphlets, and tray liners?

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

It's funny because a lot of people dis on McDonalds and then go over to Chipotle thinking that it's a healthy alternative. Which is really funny becuase a typical burrito from there is 1000+ calories. And good luck trying to easily find the nutritional info on Chipotle's site (without searching for it).

(and yes I know that Chipotle is owned by McD's)

Or Panera, where a Sierra Turkey Sandwich has nearly twice the calories and saturated fat than a Big Mac. Or nearly ANY sit down resturant where the burgers are nearly twice the calories and fat as well.

I stopped in at Famous Dave's last week and had this beast:

Ultimate BBQ Burger, ½ lb.
Topped with Georgia chopped pork, two strips of jalapeño bacon, cheddar cheese, and our signature Beam & Cola sauce.

I think I doubled my cholesterol in one sitting. It was actually labourous trying to eat this thing. I can't even fathom how absolutely horrible that was for me.

Famous Daves actually sent me to the hospital with pseudoappendicitis.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Because there are tons more fast food places that I'd rather eat at over McDs.

 

[postmortemIA]

Every time I eat there my stomach hurts, it feels like I had portion of poison.

I haven't been there in months, plus total number of times I ate there in my lifetime is less than 100.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, McDonald's nutritional info is posted on the walls, in pamphlets at the counter, and on tray liners. It is FAR easier to get than Subway's simply because it is posted in more places.

Well, since you are one for rational thought and supportive evidence, could you provide evidence that states it is corporate policy for McDonald's to display nutritional information on wrappers, walls, pamphlets, and tray liners?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/25/mcdonalds.ap/index.html

That covers wrappers. Do you REALLY want me to find proof of the wall postings, liners and pamphlets? Or do you want to just give it up and admit you never noticed the info because you never bothered to look for it?

Here's a hint: McDonald's has required wall postings in all stores for 30 years now. And mandatory tray liners and pamphlets started in 2003. Any store not doing so is out of compliance.

Instead of arguing with me, why not rat your local store out to corporate if, in fact, they are not displaying the info?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Psh, McDonalds haters are just riding on the bandwagon. IMO, in/around Tampa, this is how it is.

Arby's:
2/3 locations I've eaten at are :thumbsup:
Taco Bell:
Hit or miss. Really, I pray every time I eat there, doesn't matter which location, because they always seem to screw up getting everything evenly in the damn taco. Crunchwrap supreme, double decker, burrito, anything; it always seems like there's some sort of gravitational pull towards one end of the sandwich. Never makes me feel sick though.
Subway:
Hit or miss, 90% miss. Out of the ~10 times I've eaten at Subway, and only because I went with friends, I've ended my day with 50 consecutive runs to the porcelain throne at least half a dozen times. Garbage, utter garbage. IMO McDonalds > Leftovers > Cement > Subway
Quiznos:
Hella good, this one place I frequent tends to "mistake" and give me a double portion of meat. Sometimes I "drop" a dollar or two in the tip jar and can't be bothered to fish them out
Burger King:
Good stuff, not usually high up on my list of places to eat, but only because I'm not a huge fan of their food. Never left unsatisfied though.
Whataburger:
Best burger place EVAR, too bad the closest one is too far out of my way to eat lunch at
Wendy's:
Probably the second best burger place EVAR, but they also have problems stacking three similarly shaped objects properly.
Checkers:
Yummy.
McDonalds:
The McDonalds on Sligh and 56th is probably one of the cleanest fast food places I've ever been to, and the service is always great too. And McDonalds food is not vile or disgusting, for vile or disgusting food, please see "Subway".