How come everyone hates McDonalds?

[Slackware]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Is that so? Care to eat it for a month, 3 meals a day, and see how you feel afterwards?

Care to stop watching propaganda films and think you're being witty when you mindlessly parrot their supposed story lines?

Supersize me would have been the same no matter where he ate. He force fed himself 3 times his normal calorie intake.

And my diet has a lot of saturated fats in it because I'm on a high protien diet (I'm a weight lifter) and happen to like beef... I also do not have a family history of heart disease.

But, if you care to pay me, sure: I'll be bored and eat only McDonald's food for a month... and still be just as healthy as I am now. Hell, I probably lose weight since I eat less when I'm bored with food.

The thing is, is it healthy eating? I say it is not, you say it is.

You explain to me how white bread filled with trans fatty acids and a few grams of beef with a side of fries is healthy eating, especially with HFCS coke to go with it.

Explain to me how that will NOT lower your insulin sensitivity if you keep eating that (and in the end that will cause the LDL to rise, lowered insuln sensitivity always does).

I guess some lard and a keg of beer every night would be even worse but not much.

My point from the beginning is that McDonald's in no less healthy than the same foods served in any other restaurant, or at the vasy majority of American homes.

Now, if you want to preach a healthier diet, than one would fore-go those types of foods ANYWHERE... not just at McDonald's.

Finally, there is less than 1g of trans fats in a McDonald's Burger. I wouldn't call that "filled."

Yes there is, before the dressing and cheese which makes up a helluvalot more than the meat in a McDonalds burger.

But ok, i agree, you should't eat that crap anywhere.

Your argument is that McDonalds is not worse than say... Burger King, and that is probably true, but Burger King did not have to change cheese and dressing when we changed the rules here, McDonalds did.

Add to that that McDonald had to change their fries not once, not twice but three times to get it right and burger king still had to change nothing.

But of course, if you want to eat healthy, you'll cook your own food, and tuna is a great snack with an apple or two.

 

[Slackware]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware
Amused, so a white bread filled with mostly saturated fatty acids is your choice for a healthy meal?

Side of french fries?

Who in the FVCK goes to McDonalds to pay for an overpriced bag of vegetables that are nerver really fresh after 8:30?

Get yourself some meat with the bun and not all artificial cheese and sauce that is basically hardened vegetable trans fatty acids and E482.

Again, the buns, cheese and meat at McDonalds are virtually no different from the buns and meat at any restaurant... fast food or sit down. The cheese is the same Kraft American Cheese you buy at any supermarket. The buns are identical to 90+% of the buns you'll find at any supermarket and the beef is 100% pure ground beef.

And to further bust your myths: The only trans fats in a McDonald's burger is from the trace of Margarine used on the burgers while cooking and a trace in the buns... which you'll find in any bread served at virtually any restaurant.

oh, so there are no trans fats in the dressing or in the cheese at a mcdonalds burger?

Then how come they had to change both here where we don't allow trans fatty acids to be so prevalent?

The buns are white bread and the meat is what, 46 grams uncooked?

You can claim that McDonalds are is healthy food all day but it still IS NOT. Even IF there were no trans fatty acids it would be a horrible meal nutritionally and you KNOW THAT.

It's not good for you nutritionally in any shape or form, get yourself some high fiber bread and some turkey or even roast beef, get some bellpeppers in there, some salad and some persillade, no need for wet dressing, few slices of tomato if you like that, i prefer it as it is, that will last you a while, you could eat McDonalds burgers until you starve to death, it's like eating rice cakes.

Are you fscking dense?

Where did I say a burger ANYWHERE is "healthy?"

I did not.

My point (and read this slowly now, so you understand):

The foods served at McDonalds are no less healthy than the identical foods served at any other restaurant, fast food or sit-down. Nor the same foods prepared in the vast Majority of American homes.

Now, before your knee jerks again, read that very slowly over and over until you understand exactly what I am saying.

No, i am not dense, look at the times of our posts, i wrote that while you were answering my previous post.

Ease off on the caffeine there before you hurt yoruself.

 

[MrFire8808]

I dont like really any fast food because I cannot see the ingredients raw, I cannot see my food made, and I dont know who the hell is making it.... Did they even wash their hands? wtf!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Is that so? Care to eat it for a month, 3 meals a day, and see how you feel afterwards?

Care to stop watching propaganda films and think you're being witty when you mindlessly parrot their supposed story lines?

Supersize me would have been the same no matter where he ate. He force fed himself 3 times his normal calorie intake.

And my diet has a lot of saturated fats in it because I'm on a high protien diet (I'm a weight lifter) and happen to like beef... I also do not have a family history of heart disease.

But, if you care to pay me, sure: I'll be bored and eat only McDonald's food for a month... and still be just as healthy as I am now. Hell, I probably lose weight since I eat less when I'm bored with food.

The thing is, is it healthy eating? I say it is not, you say it is.

You explain to me how white bread filled with trans fatty acids and a few grams of beef with a side of fries is healthy eating, especially with HFCS coke to go with it.

Explain to me how that will NOT lower your insulin sensitivity if you keep eating that (and in the end that will cause the LDL to rise, lowered insuln sensitivity always does).

I guess some lard and a keg of beer every night would be even worse but not much.

My point from the beginning is that McDonald's in no less healthy than the same foods served in any other restaurant, or at the vasy majority of American homes.

Now, if you want to preach a healthier diet, than one would fore-go those types of foods ANYWHERE... not just at McDonald's.

Finally, there is less than 1g of trans fats in a McDonald's Burger. I wouldn't call that "filled."

Yes there is, before the dressing and cheese which makes up a helluvalot more than the meat in a McDonalds burger.

But ok, i agree, you should't eat that crap anywhere.

Your argument is that McDonalds is not worse than say... Burger King, and that is probably true, but Burger King did not have to change cheese and dressing when we changed the rules here, McDonalds did.

Add to that that McDonald had to change their fries not once, not twice but three times to get it right and burger king still had to change nothing.

But of course, if you want to eat healthy, you'll cook your own food, and tuna is a great snack with an apple or two.

There are no trans fats in McDonald's cheese and dressing.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Slackware

No, i am not dense, look at the times of our posts, i wrote that while you were answering my previous post.

Ease off on the caffeine there before you hurt yoruself.

The problem is, I have been saying that very thing since my second post in this thread.

McDonald's Burgers and no less healthy than the burgers served at any other restaurant.

 

[Slackware]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant (in fact, healthier than many sit down places). It is also no more unhealthy than the same foods the average person cooks at home.

Is that so? Care to eat it for a month, 3 meals a day, and see how you feel afterwards?

Care to stop watching propaganda films and think you're being witty when you mindlessly parrot their supposed story lines?

Supersize me would have been the same no matter where he ate. He force fed himself 3 times his normal calorie intake.

And my diet has a lot of saturated fats in it because I'm on a high protien diet (I'm a weight lifter) and happen to like beef... I also do not have a family history of heart disease.

But, if you care to pay me, sure: I'll be bored and eat only McDonald's food for a month... and still be just as healthy as I am now. Hell, I probably lose weight since I eat less when I'm bored with food.

The thing is, is it healthy eating? I say it is not, you say it is.

You explain to me how white bread filled with trans fatty acids and a few grams of beef with a side of fries is healthy eating, especially with HFCS coke to go with it.

Explain to me how that will NOT lower your insulin sensitivity if you keep eating that (and in the end that will cause the LDL to rise, lowered insuln sensitivity always does).

I guess some lard and a keg of beer every night would be even worse but not much.

My point from the beginning is that McDonald's in no less healthy than the same foods served in any other restaurant, or at the vasy majority of American homes.

Now, if you want to preach a healthier diet, than one would fore-go those types of foods ANYWHERE... not just at McDonald's.

Finally, there is less than 1g of trans fats in a McDonald's Burger. I wouldn't call that "filled."

Yes there is, before the dressing and cheese which makes up a helluvalot more than the meat in a McDonalds burger.

But ok, i agree, you should't eat that crap anywhere.

Your argument is that McDonalds is not worse than say... Burger King, and that is probably true, but Burger King did not have to change cheese and dressing when we changed the rules here, McDonalds did.

Add to that that McDonald had to change their fries not once, not twice but three times to get it right and burger king still had to change nothing.

But of course, if you want to eat healthy, you'll cook your own food, and tuna is a great snack with an apple or two.

There are no trans fats in McDonald's cheese and dressing.

Perhaps they had it in it before the EU changed the rules over here, they had to change it though.

 

[Slackware]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

No, i am not dense, look at the times of our posts, i wrote that while you were answering my previous post.

Ease off on the caffeine there before you hurt yoruself.

The problem is, I have been saying that very thing since my second post in this thread.

McDonald's Burgers and no less healthy than the burgers served at any other restaurant.

Look buddy, i'm saying it ain't healthy eating but that would go for pretty much any place that has the same stuff or worse, pizza.

I did not read your previous responses, i picked one and responded to that.

But since we agree that it's not healhy eating anywhere why not move on to something more productive, i really need some breakfast right now.

 

[Canai]

McDonald's food make me sick to my stomach, as does most fast food and restaurants. If I wanted to ingest all sorts of processed foods, I'd probably smoke a pack a day and drink a bottle of whiskey with each meal to even it all out.

Instead I chose to eat a very healthy diet of my own choosing, instead of some fast food giant' table scraps. I also take care to regulate my fat and cholesterol intake, among many other factors. I don't plan on becoming one of the 'fast-food fatties' that so plague our nation.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Slackware

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Slackware

No, i am not dense, look at the times of our posts, i wrote that while you were answering my previous post.

Ease off on the caffeine there before you hurt yoruself.

The problem is, I have been saying that very thing since my second post in this thread.

McDonald's Burgers and no less healthy than the burgers served at any other restaurant.

Look buddy, i'm saying it ain't healthy eating but that would go for pretty much any place that has the same stuff or worse, pizza.

I did not read your previous responses, i picked one and responded to that.

But since we agree that it's not healhy eating anywhere why not move on to something more productive, i really need some breakfast right now.

LOL, OK. But can we all take a very valuable lesson from this experience?

Read the thread before posting!

 

[shortylickens]

Well since the OP's question is flawed to begin with its difficult to answer.

He states that EVERYBODY hates McD's.
Every time I drive past one its usually filled.

As for the general point he's trying to discuss: I think they are the best of the fast-food burgers.

Having said that, I would much rather eat anything besides a fast-food burger.
Actually, now that my mind is on it, I think I'll go to Shari's and get a nice burger.
Well done with lots of goodies on it.
I think I'll also see the nice waitress. Well done with lots of.....
Well, you get the idea.

 

[Shadowknight]

Their breakfast sandwiches rock, especially their McGriddles, it's just the rest of their menu is awful. Wendys > Burger King (which NEVER serves food that isn't cold, no matter what branch I go to) > McDonals > Hardees. Hardees used to be #2, but 9 years ago they changed their mayonnaise to a new formuls/brand that causes me uncontrollable vomiting; aside from the vomiting sucking in general, I LOVED their mushroom melts before the whole mayo thing screwed things up.

 

[letdown427]

I really like the taste of the food there, and have no problem eating there. Stomach feels a bit nasty afterwards, and that fast food wind is deadly. But yeah, I do enjoy the food there when I go, I just haven't found myself going there at all for months. Maybe I'll go to one tonight, just for you

 

[leftyman]

I get the Big Mac jones occasionally

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Their breakfast sandwiches rock, especially their McGriddles, it's just the rest of their menu is awful. Wendys > Burger King (which NEVER serves food that isn't cold, no matter what branch I go to) > McDonals > Hardees. Hardees used to be #2, but 9 years ago they changed their mayonnaise to a new formuls/brand that causes me uncontrollable vomiting; aside from the vomiting sucking in general, I LOVED their mushroom melts before the whole mayo thing screwed things up.

The fact that you like mayo on your burger disqualifies you from any food discussion.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Their breakfast sandwiches rock, especially their McGriddles, it's just the rest of their menu is awful. Wendys > Burger King (which NEVER serves food that isn't cold, no matter what branch I go to) > McDonals > Hardees. Hardees used to be #2, but 9 years ago they changed their mayonnaise to a new formuls/brand that causes me uncontrollable vomiting; aside from the vomiting sucking in general, I LOVED their mushroom melts before the whole mayo thing screwed things up.

The fact that you like mayo on your burger disqualifies you from any food discussion.

You must be one of those pussified boys, who, whenever you order a burger or dog, requst it "plain".

 

[SonnyDaze]

<Eddie Murphy> I got McDonald's, I got McDonald's <Eddie Murphy>

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
<Eddie Murphy> I got McDonald's, I got McDonald's <Eddie Murphy>

:thumbsup:

 

[StrangerGuy]

Hatin' Macdonalds is cool and will always do.

 

[Siddhartha]

The flavor quality of their products went down hill when they started going low fat.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Amused
Because it's cool to hate McDonalds. Just as it is fashionable to hate Walmart and Microsoft.

dont forget Bush and iPods.


I bet Bush listens to an ipod, shops at walmart, uses Windows XP, and eats at McDonalds.

Probably owns a PS3 as well.

with the PS3 hooked into a Bose sound system

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The flavor quality of their products went down hill when they started going low fat.

QFT. Then again, food has never been the same, since they stopped using lard. Those were the days, when the more grease, the better. French fries are not the same, post lard.

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Because there are tons more fast food places that I'd rather eat at over McDs.

QFT

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Amused
Because it's cool to hate McDonalds. Just as it is fashionable to hate Walmart and Microsoft.

McDonalds sucks!!!!!

On a serious note, though, the food is lousy for you - sitting down for a burger, fries, and a soda sounds like a future recipe for heart disease, cancer, and/or diabetes. Of course, the chances these foods affect you in this way is related to family history to a degree.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The food is poison, in both taste and health. It is absolute garbage.

The food is no more unhealthy than the same food cooked at any other resturant.

Yep:

McDonald's Hamburger (260 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/33 g carbs)
Wendy's Jr. Hamburger (280 cal/9 g fat/1 g fiber/34 g carbs)
Arby's Regular Roast Beef (320 cal/14 g fat/2 g fiber/34 g carbs)

McDonald's Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich w/o mayo (370 cal/4.5 g fat/3 g fiber/51 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)
Arby's Chicken Fillet Sandwich: Grilled (414 cal/17 g fat/3 g fiber/36 g carbs) (less w/o mayo)

Thats ridiculous. Double the portions for the top 3 to compare. A Wendy's chicken sandwich has much more meat than the top 2.

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

I'm not even sure what is on the "ultimate", but I usually get the spicy chicken without anything on it except lettuce & I toss half the bun cause I dont need all the carbs/cals, so you can reduce those counts even further.

In any case, McD's food is garbage, and no matter how many times Amused types it, my foreman grilled hamburgers at home are much, much healthier than anything I can buy out.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Here's a more accurate comparison:

2 x McDonald's Hamburger (520 cal/18 g fat/2 g fiber/66 g carbs)
Wendy's Ultimate Chicken Grill Sandwich (360 cal/7 g fat/2 g fiber/44 g carbs)

Accurate? Say how? You're comparing double beef to chicken?