How come everyone hates McDonalds?

[SWScorch]

Because it is disgusting and terribly unhealthy. Although I do enjoy the Egg McMuffins. They are tasty.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Because it is disgusting and terribly unhealthy. Although I do enjoy the Egg McMuffins. They are tasty.

Do you hate Burger King, Wendy's and every other burger joint as well?

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Because it is disgusting and terribly unhealthy. Although I do enjoy the Egg McMuffins. They are tasty.

Do you hate Burger King, Wendy's and every other burger joint as well?

Yup. I do like Taco Bell though Fast food burgers just don't really appeal to me. If forced into eating there, I'll have chicken, because that's usually ok.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SWScorch

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Because it is disgusting and terribly unhealthy. Although I do enjoy the Egg McMuffins. They are tasty.

Do you hate Burger King, Wendy's and every other burger joint as well?

Yup. I do like Taco Bell though Fast food burgers just don't really appeal to me. If forced into eating there, I'll have chicken, because that's usually ok.

LOL, at least you are somewhat consistent.

Taco Bell though? Wow...

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/25/mcdonalds.ap/index.html

That covers wrappers. Do you REALLY want me to find proof of the wall postings, liners and pamphlets? Or do you want to just give it up and admit you never noticed the info because you never bothered to look for it?

Here's a hint: McDonald's has required wall postings in all stores for 30 years now. And mandatory tray liners and pamphlets started in 2003. Any store not doing so is out of compliance.

Instead of arguing with me, why not rat your local store out to corporate if, in fact, they are not displaying the info?

I have never seen a wall poster nor pamphlets nor information on tray liners. I'll admit that, as I don't go to McDonald's often, I could have overlooked the new wrappers (though a news article hardly dictates corporate policy, or the extent they would go to punish an infraction of said policy), but not wall posters that have been there required for 30 years, or pamphlets and tray liners required for 4 years.
You are the one that always demands scientific or evidentiary support, so provide it. I'm interested to see if this is, in fact, corporate policy, not for the sake of arguing with you.

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: Amused

LOL, at least you are somewhat consistent.

Taco Bell though? Wow...

Haha, I know. I can't help it. I'm a sucker for fake Mexican food. You see, I can take food that is either unhealthy, or disgusting, but both is just too much for me. So I have no problems eating something I know is bad for me every now and then as long as it tastes good. So every couple of months or so I'll stop in at Taco Hell and stuff 2000 calories worth of artery-clogging, colon-cleansing grub down my maw. But fast food burgers just have too much grease and make me feel queasy.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Because there are tons more fast food places that I'd rather eat at over McDs.

let alone better for you.

 

[bobsmith1492]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

I would laugh because the purpose of food is to provide nutrition and energy - to MAKE you fat, not make you lose weight. Anyone in any other country of the world would laugh because if food makes you thinner, you probably need to find different kinds nof food.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

I could be wrong but I do believe those commercials refer to their "under six grams of fat" sandwiches when making any claim regarding eating healthy and losing weight.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

I would laugh because the purpose of food is to provide nutrition and energy - to MAKE you fat, not make you lose weight. Anyone in any other country of the world would laugh because if food makes you thinner, you probably need to find different kinds nof food.

No, the purpose of food is to provide metabolic fuel for daily functioning. It's excesses that make you fat. Short of colon busting amounts of fiber, there isn't a food that can make you "lose" weight. But there are many ways to get "more" energy from "less" as well as ways to trick your stomach into thinking that it's more full than it really is.

 

[CPA]

I :heart: Amused.



And no, I'm not gay or a girl.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CPA
I :heart: Amused.



And no, I'm not gay or a girl.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

I would laugh because the purpose of food is to provide nutrition and energy - to MAKE you fat, not make you lose weight. Anyone in any other country of the world would laugh because if food makes you thinner, you probably need to find different kinds nof food.

No, the purpose of food is to provide metabolic fuel for daily functioning. It's excesses that make you fat. Short of colon busting amounts of fiber, there isn't a food that can make you "lose" weight. But there are many ways to get "more" energy from "less" as well as ways to trick your stomach into thinking that it's more full than it really is.

And a key here is that ANY food in excess can make you fat.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm cool with Mcdonald's. I enjoy their fries, burgers, and nuggets. They also make the best damn Coke around.

They make Coke?

Yep, Coke doesn't ship out the final product to food places. They get the syrup and mix it with carbonated water. McDonald's does the best job of anyone.

Do you think that every McDonald's actually mixes the syrup the same way? My point is that it is not a McDonald's product - just something some guy is mixing together, and I doubt it is something held uniform across the franchise.

You might be surprised at the extent they go to make things uniform from franchise to franchise. I knew this person in college who was called out for not salting the fries in an 'M/Arch' pattern. Yah...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/25/mcdonalds.ap/index.html

That covers wrappers. Do you REALLY want me to find proof of the wall postings, liners and pamphlets? Or do you want to just give it up and admit you never noticed the info because you never bothered to look for it?

Here's a hint: McDonald's has required wall postings in all stores for 30 years now. And mandatory tray liners and pamphlets started in 2003. Any store not doing so is out of compliance.

Instead of arguing with me, why not rat your local store out to corporate if, in fact, they are not displaying the info?

I have never seen a wall poster nor pamphlets nor information on tray liners. I'll admit that, as I don't go to McDonald's often, I could have overlooked the new wrappers (though a news article hardly dictates corporate policy, or the extent they would go to punish an infraction of said policy), but not wall posters that have been there required for 30 years, or pamphlets and tray liners required for 4 years.
You are the one that always demands scientific or evidentiary support, so provide it. I'm interested to see if this is, in fact, corporate policy, not for the sake of arguing with you.

:::sigh:::

Most franchises do not post their rules of franchise compliance in public areas. I can find all sorts of third party articles mentiong the practices, but no official statements on them.

But I am in the food franchise business. I know what's going on.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm cool with Mcdonald's. I enjoy their fries, burgers, and nuggets. They also make the best damn Coke around.

They make Coke?

Yep, Coke doesn't ship out the final product to food places. They get the syrup and mix it with carbonated water. McDonald's does the best job of anyone.

Do you think that every McDonald's actually mixes the syrup the same way? My point is that it is not a McDonald's product - just something some guy is mixing together, and I doubt it is something held uniform across the franchise.

joshsquall is right and I know what he means. McDonald's must have a corporate policy of making sure the soda fountains are calibrated and working properly. I drink the diet coke at McD's and it's definitely better than some of the convenience stores around here. You would think something like that is hard to mess up but it's really not.

Actually I'm willing to bet he is not right, as I have tasted a difference in soda from different McDonald's locations. Hell you can notice a change from day to day at almost any place that has a soda fountain.

I've eaten at probably 50 McD's in my lifetime and they've all had Coke which tastes exactly the same. It's not exactly hard to standardize a syrup to carbonated water ratio. The hardware takes care of it.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Subway's advertising cracks me up... what other company advertises that you can eat their hoagies and lose weight? :laugh:

You don't think it's possible? Some of Subway's 6" subs are healthy, despite the bread.

Their ads tend to lump all of their sandwiches into the same healthy category. It's ok, I ate Subway! :roll:

I would laugh because the purpose of food is to provide nutrition and energy - to MAKE you fat, not make you lose weight. Anyone in any other country of the world would laugh because if food makes you thinner, you probably need to find different kinds nof food.

No, the purpose of food is to provide metabolic fuel for daily functioning. It's excesses that make you fat. Short of colon busting amounts of fiber, there isn't a food that can make you "lose" weight. But there are many ways to get "more" energy from "less" as well as ways to trick your stomach into thinking that it's more full than it really is.

And a key here is that ANY food in excess can make you fat.

Well, technically you'd have other problems before obesity occurs. You'd run into Vitamin A toxicity before you grew fat from carrots or spinach

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused
:::sigh:::

Most franchises do not post their rules of franchise compliance in public areas. I can find all sorts of their party articles mentiong the practices, but no official statements on them.

But I am in the food franchise business. I know what's going on.

You're seeking to convince me that this is a mandatory policy in all McDonald's without evidentiary support. How about I tell you that Thomas Huxley quarreled openly with Darwin about his specific stance on natural selection. Now, there is no hard evidence supporting that, but there are witness accounts. However, no one accepts those as fact.

Using reason, it would be prudent to assume that there may be McDonald's that do not adhere to these commonplace practices, and without support it is reasonable to assume that I may be correct in my statement that there are no wall posters, tray liners, or pamphlets with nutritional information (and possibly even the wrappers) as I have first hand experience, and you have media announcements.

 

[monk3y]

I don't really like the lunch menu they have. I do LOVE their breakfast though, AND it's a huge plus that they're open pretty late. The Egg McMuffin ROCKS!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Beachboy

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm cool with Mcdonald's. I enjoy their fries, burgers, and nuggets. They also make the best damn Coke around.

They make Coke?

Yep, Coke doesn't ship out the final product to food places. They get the syrup and mix it with carbonated water. McDonald's does the best job of anyone.

Do you think that every McDonald's actually mixes the syrup the same way? My point is that it is not a McDonald's product - just something some guy is mixing together, and I doubt it is something held uniform across the franchise.

joshsquall is right and I know what he means. McDonald's must have a corporate policy of making sure the soda fountains are calibrated and working properly. I drink the diet coke at McD's and it's definitely better than some of the convenience stores around here. You would think something like that is hard to mess up but it's really not.

Actually I'm willing to bet he is not right, as I have tasted a difference in soda from different McDonald's locations. Hell you can notice a change from day to day at almost any place that has a soda fountain.

I've eaten at probably 50 McD's in my lifetime and they've all had Coke which tastes exactly the same. It's not exactly hard to standardize a syrup to carbonated water ratio. The hardware takes care of it.

FYI, guys:

Coke and McDonald's have an unique equipment agreement and the fountains AND syrups are proprietary to McDonald's.

So yes, Coke will taste different and be more consistant at McDonald's

 

[eits]

mcdonald's = terrible for you, doesn't taste that great, not sure exactly wtf i'm eating...

the egg mcmuffin doesn't even have egg in it... it's goddamn egg product... it's some white cylinder of egg white product with a small yellow yolk product running along the center... what a fvcking lie of a sandwich that is!

fvck you, ronald mcdonald. i'll make my own...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Amused
:::sigh:::

Most franchises do not post their rules of franchise compliance in public areas. I can find all sorts of their party articles mentiong the practices, but no official statements on them.

But I am in the food franchise business. I know what's going on.

You're seeking to convince me that this is a mandatory policy in all McDonald's without evidentiary support. How about I tell you that Thomas Huxley quarreled openly with Darwin about his specific stance on natural selection. Now, there is no hard evidence supporting that, but there are witness accounts. However, no one accepts those as fact.

Using reason, it would be prudent to assume that there may be McDonald's that do not adhere to these commonplace practices, and without support it is reasonable to assume that I may be correct in my statement that there are no wall posters, tray liners, or pamphlets with nutritional information (and possibly even the wrappers) as I have first hand experience, and you have media announcements.

OK then, Go on in your ignorance.

Yes, individual franchises may be out of compliance. However, Franchises are not allowed to use any other tray liners than those supplied by McD's corporate and it is policy to post the info on the walls and make brochures available at the counter. Franchises that do not comply run the risk of losing their franchise.

You can take that, or leave it. But realize this: You have won no argument here. All you have done is stick your fingers in your ears and scream "I DON'T HEAR YOU."

I have NEVER been in a McDonald's that did not have the info on the wall. And in the past 4 years I have NEVER been to a McDonald's that did not have tray liners and pamphlets.

And I eat at McDonald's at least 4 times a month, know owners of McDonald's stores and have eaten at McDonald's in many states. Hell, I work in the food industry as a franchise owner myself.

But that's OK. You feel you know more than I do on the matter simply to try and score points on an internet message board. You think you know more than me about franchise compliance rules, while I am a franchise owner. That's cool.

Now if only you could realize what an idiot you are making yourself look like now...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits
mcdonald's = terrible for you, doesn't taste that great, not sure exactly wtf i'm eating...

the egg mcmuffin doesn't even have egg in it... it's goddamn egg product... it's some white cylinder of egg white product with a small yellow yolk product running along the center... what a fvcking lie of a sandwich that is!

fvck you, ronald mcdonald. i'll make my own...

McDonald's uses real eggs in all their egg products. It's not their fault that you're too stupid to realize they are cooked in a circular form on a griddle so they maintain the shape of the sandwich.

It's not like the ingredients aren't fully listed on line or anything... oh wait.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: eits
mcdonald's = terrible for you, doesn't taste that great, not sure exactly wtf i'm eating...

the egg mcmuffin doesn't even have egg in it... it's goddamn egg product... it's some white cylinder of egg white product with a small yellow yolk product running along the center... what a fvcking lie of a sandwich that is!

fvck you, ronald mcdonald. i'll make my own...

you are a wrong on this.

the egg mcmuffin is made from a real egg. its made in cylinder on teh grill. how do i know? i worked in the grill for 2 years while in highschool/college.


I don't hate Mcdonalds or any other fast food. they are fine for what they are. A place ot grab a quick convienant meal. We eat fast food maybe twice a week while out doing errands.

is it healhty? nope. is it good? well depends on where and what. Wendy's spicy chicken is great. Arby's hot ham and cheese is great (but damn $2 for it? pfft).

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Amused
OK then, Go on in your ignorance.

Yes, individual franchises may be out of compliance. However, Franchises are not allowed to use any other tray liners than those supplied by McD's corprate and it is policy to post the info on the walls and make brochures available at the counter. Franchises that do not comply run the risk of losing their franchise.

You can take that, or leave it. But realize this: You have won no argument here. All you have done is stick your fingers in your ears and scream "I DON'T HEAR YOU."

I have NEVER been in a McDonald's that did not have the info on the wall. And in the past 4 years I have NEVER been to a McDonald's that did not have tray liners and pamphlets.

And I eat at McDonald's at least 4 times a month, know owners of McDonald's stores and have eaten at McDonald's in many states. Hell, I work in the food industry as a franchise owner myself.

But that's OK. You feel you know more than I do on the matter simply to try and score points on an internet message board. You think you know more than me about franchise compliance rules, while I am a franchise owner. That's cool.

Now if only you could realize what an idiot you are making yourself look like now...

I'm not trying to win an argument. Rather, I'm trying to get "Mr. Where's Your Support" to give me a little more than anecdotal evidence. I also never claimed to know more than you on this matter, barring the McDonald's in my area, which you most likely have never visited. I simply want support for your claims, much like you want from others when they make claims. In all this time you have spent trying to belittle me, I am certain you could have found some sort of support.