How come everyone hates McDonalds?

[Googer]

Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Because there are tons more fast food places that I'd rather eat at over McDs.

Wendy's food is way better and it costs less than my local McDonalds.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert
if my wife (if I had one) brought me MCD's I would divorce her on the spot.

In'N'Out is fresh, they never freeze their meat, that has to say something about quality and freshness. Is In'N'Out healthy? of course not, but their burgers are better for you then MCD's

Hardly. Better taste does not mean healthier. Not by a long shot.

I can guarantee you this: Their beef can not be any more 100% pure beef than McDonalds. Their buns are also white bread, which means HFCS and a bit of trans fats.

To say an In-n-Out burger is healthier is pure delusion. Nothing more.

(In-n-Out's patties are smaller than a quarter pounder A double-double comes closet in weight):

In-n-Out Double-Double
Cal: 670
Cal from fat: 370
Fat: 41
Sat Fat: 18
Trans Fats (NOT LISTED)
Sodium: 1440

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:
Cal: 510
Cal from fat: 230
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Trans Fat: 1.5
Sodium: 1190

In-in-Out has more fat per calorie than McDonald's Thus making it WORSE for you than McDonald's.

Again, better taste does not mean better for you. In fact, it's usually the opposite.

that was a horrible comparison, a Double Double is MUCH bigger then a quarter pounder. How can you even compare the 2? Besides more meat, it also has 2 slices of cheese.
I'll bet anything In N Out is better for you. Is it "healthy" fvck no, but it will be a overall healthier burger then anything MCD's offers. You have to compare equal sized burgers. Try a Double Double vs a Big Mac, that is more fair.

Beef is not simply beef just because it's 100% you have meat with different fat content, 8%, 15%, 22% In N Out uses BETTER BEEF! if all you care about is 100% then you should eat a Sirloin Stake instead of a Rib Eye or Filet, because both are 100% beef right?

So I guess you were too dense to note that In-n-Out had more fat per calorie than McDonald's, meaning their burgers are not as lean as McDonald's, meaning they are not as healthy.

BTW, by weight, a Double-Double is only slightly more beef than a Quarter Pounder. And a QP has two slices of cheese as well.

Again, better taste does not mean it's better for you. I can see you are deperate to hold onto your delusion here. I have no idea why

Where are you getting your figures from?

Double Double with cheese: 330 g

MCdonalds Quarter Pounder + cheese: 198 g

this is off both of their offical web sites, they cannot lie about this stuff.

In N Out can't possibly be over 100 g extra of onion and other veggies on a double double.
So explain to me where the other 132 grams from IN N Out are coming from.

according to their sites In N out's double double is overall bigger then a Double Quarter Pounder, and In N Out's buns are much smaller/lighter so it can't even be a bread issue making it weigh more!

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert
if my wife (if I had one) brought me MCD's I would divorce her on the spot.

In'N'Out is fresh, they never freeze their meat, that has to say something about quality and freshness. Is In'N'Out healthy? of course not, but their burgers are better for you then MCD's

Hardly. Better taste does not mean healthier. Not by a long shot.

I can guarantee you this: Their beef can not be any more 100% pure beef than McDonalds. Their buns are also white bread, which means HFCS and a bit of trans fats.

To say an In-n-Out burger is healthier is pure delusion. Nothing more.

(In-n-Out's patties are smaller than a quarter pounder A double-double comes closet in weight):

In-n-Out Double-Double
Cal: 670
Cal from fat: 370
Fat: 41
Sat Fat: 18
Trans Fats (NOT LISTED)
Sodium: 1440

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:
Cal: 510
Cal from fat: 230
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Trans Fat: 1.5
Sodium: 1190

In-in-Out has more fat per calorie than McDonald's Thus making it WORSE for you than McDonald's.

Again, better taste does not mean better for you. In fact, it's usually the opposite.

that was a horrible comparison, a Double Double is MUCH bigger then a quarter pounder. How can you even compare the 2? Besides more meat, it also has 2 slices of cheese.
I'll bet anything In N Out is better for you. Is it "healthy" fvck no, but it will be a overall healthier burger then anything MCD's offers. You have to compare equal sized burgers. Try a Double Double vs a Big Mac, that is more fair. A Double Double is considerably larger then a Quarter Pounder. I know I eat them often

Beef is not simply beef just because it's 100% you have meat with different fat content, 8%, 15%, 22% In N Out uses BETTER BEEF! if all you care about is 100% then you should eat a Sirloin Stake instead of a Rib Eye or Filet, because both are 100% beef right?

LOL, I already know Amused is going to shot you down again but I'll start:
- A Quarter Pounder also have 2 slices of cheese.
A double at Ins and Outs have 2 1/8 lbs beek patties so if you do the math, that equals 1/4 of a pound which is identical to the QtrCh.
If you wanted to compare it to the Big Mac, the Big Mac has 2 1/10 patties which is only 1/5 of a pound and has only 1 slice of cheese.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert
if my wife (if I had one) brought me MCD's I would divorce her on the spot.

In'N'Out is fresh, they never freeze their meat, that has to say something about quality and freshness. Is In'N'Out healthy? of course not, but their burgers are better for you then MCD's

Hardly. Better taste does not mean healthier. Not by a long shot.

I can guarantee you this: Their beef can not be any more 100% pure beef than McDonalds. Their buns are also white bread, which means HFCS and a bit of trans fats.

To say an In-n-Out burger is healthier is pure delusion. Nothing more.

(In-n-Out's patties are smaller than a quarter pounder A double-double comes closet in weight):

In-n-Out Double-Double
Cal: 670
Cal from fat: 370
Fat: 41
Sat Fat: 18
Trans Fats (NOT LISTED)
Sodium: 1440

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:
Cal: 510
Cal from fat: 230
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Trans Fat: 1.5
Sodium: 1190

In-in-Out has more fat per calorie than McDonald's Thus making it WORSE for you than McDonald's.

Again, better taste does not mean better for you. In fact, it's usually the opposite.

that was a horrible comparison, a Double Double is MUCH bigger then a quarter pounder. How can you even compare the 2? Besides more meat, it also has 2 slices of cheese.
I'll bet anything In N Out is better for you. Is it "healthy" fvck no, but it will be a overall healthier burger then anything MCD's offers. You have to compare equal sized burgers. Try a Double Double vs a Big Mac, that is more fair. A Double Double is considerably larger then a Quarter Pounder. I know I eat them often

Beef is not simply beef just because it's 100% you have meat with different fat content, 8%, 15%, 22% In N Out uses BETTER BEEF! if all you care about is 100% then you should eat a Sirloin Stake instead of a Rib Eye or Filet, because both are 100% beef right?

LOL, I already know Amused is going to shot you down again but I'll start:
- A Quarter Pounder also have 2 slices of cheese.
A double at Ins and Outs have 2 1/8 lbs beek patties so if you do the math, that equals 1/4 of a pound which is identical to the QtrCh.
If you wanted to compare it to the Big Mac, the Big Mac has 2 1/10 patties which is only 1/5 of a pound and has only 1 slice of cheese.

I've never said the MEAT is the same size, but look at the gram count, the IN-N-Out burgers are overall bigger, 100 grams is what 3.5 oz's right? You can't compare a buger simply off how big the patty is. he is comparing a burger that's 3.5 ounces bigger overall and saying "hay it has more fat" yeah and it's also almost a 1/4 pounder bigger when you factor in everything.

and you're talking pre cooked weight, In N Out uses lower fat beef, which means the patties will cook down less, how much I don't know. but it does make a difference too

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert
if my wife (if I had one) brought me MCD's I would divorce her on the spot.

In'N'Out is fresh, they never freeze their meat, that has to say something about quality and freshness. Is In'N'Out healthy? of course not, but their burgers are better for you then MCD's

Hardly. Better taste does not mean healthier. Not by a long shot.

I can guarantee you this: Their beef can not be any more 100% pure beef than McDonalds. Their buns are also white bread, which means HFCS and a bit of trans fats.

To say an In-n-Out burger is healthier is pure delusion. Nothing more.

(In-n-Out's patties are smaller than a quarter pounder A double-double comes closet in weight):

In-n-Out Double-Double
Cal: 670
Cal from fat: 370
Fat: 41
Sat Fat: 18
Trans Fats (NOT LISTED)
Sodium: 1440

McDonald's Quarter Pounder:
Cal: 510
Cal from fat: 230
Fat: 26
Sat Fat: 12
Trans Fat: 1.5
Sodium: 1190

In-in-Out has more fat per calorie than McDonald's Thus making it WORSE for you than McDonald's.

Again, better taste does not mean better for you. In fact, it's usually the opposite.

that was a horrible comparison, a Double Double is MUCH bigger then a quarter pounder. How can you even compare the 2? Besides more meat, it also has 2 slices of cheese.
I'll bet anything In N Out is better for you. Is it "healthy" fvck no, but it will be a overall healthier burger then anything MCD's offers. You have to compare equal sized burgers. Try a Double Double vs a Big Mac, that is more fair. A Double Double is considerably larger then a Quarter Pounder. I know I eat them often

Beef is not simply beef just because it's 100% you have meat with different fat content, 8%, 15%, 22% In N Out uses BETTER BEEF! if all you care about is 100% then you should eat a Sirloin Stake instead of a Rib Eye or Filet, because both are 100% beef right?

LOL, I already know Amused is going to shot you down again but I'll start:
- A Quarter Pounder also have 2 slices of cheese.
A double at Ins and Outs have 2 1/8 lbs beek patties so if you do the math, that equals 1/4 of a pound which is identical to the QtrCh.
If you wanted to compare it to the Big Mac, the Big Mac has 2 1/10 patties which is only 1/5 of a pound and has only 1 slice of cheese.

I've never said the MEAT is the same size, but look at the gram count, the IN-N-Out burgers are overall bigger, 100 grams is what 3.5 oz's right? You can't compare a buger simply off how big the patty is. he is comparing a burger that's 3.5 ounces bigger overall and saying "hay it has more fat" yeah and it's also almost a 1/4 pounder bigger when you factor in everything.

and you're talking pre cooked weight, In N Out uses lower fat beef, which means the patties will cook down less, how much I don't know. but it does make a difference too

QueBert,

A Doulble Double has MORE FAT PER CALORIE than a quarter pounder.

DD:
Cal: 670
Cal from fat: 370 (56% fat)

QP:
Cal: 510
Fat: 230 (45% fat)

Size be damned, the Double-Double has a higher PECENTAGE of fat than the Quarter Pounder. And that makes sense because fat makes beef taste GOOD. Probably one of the resaons In-n-Out tastes better.

And yes, I think In-n-Out tastes better as well. However to try and say they are healthier is just fooling yourself.

 

[ric1287]

"you know what would be good on this hamburger? A ham sandwich! And while we are at it, instead of buns lets use donuts."

 

[Dantzig]

A double-double also has special sauce on it which is almost 100% fat. McD QP only has ketchup/mustard which add no fat.

I personally hate McD's because I worked there for a month when I was a teenager. I can't stomach the smell of the place much less the food anymore. The smell is 100 times worse than any real restaurant. I associate it with death and decaying flesh. For all I know, the "kitchen" at Wendy's, BK, Hardee's/etc. might be just as bad as McD's but I don't get hit with the same smell when I walk into those places.

 

[Coldkilla]

"Hwvelcoom tu Madonna's"

 

[zinfamous]

B/c McDonald's kills more Americans than Al Qaeda. ...uh, it's a fact. hehe

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Dantzig
A double-double also has special sauce on it which is almost 100% fat. McD QP only has ketchup/mustard which add no fat.

I personally hate McD's because I worked there for a month when I was a teenager. I can't stomach the smell of the place much less the food anymore. The smell is 100 times worse than any real restaurant. I associate it with death and decaying flesh. For all I know, the "kitchen" at Wendy's, BK, Hardee's/etc. might be just as bad as McD's but I don't get hit with the same smell when I walk into those places.

you bring up a good point, my GF always has me order her Quarter Pounder with Big Mac Sauce, which is the same junk In N Out uses. since I always order my Double Double with no sauce it's probably quite a bit better for me I can't stand that nasty ass Thousand Island on my burgers.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Dantzig
A double-double also has special sauce on it which is almost 100% fat. McD QP only has ketchup/mustard which add no fat.

I personally hate McD's because I worked there for a month when I was a teenager. I can't stomach the smell of the place much less the food anymore. The smell is 100 times worse than any real restaurant. I associate it with death and decaying flesh. For all I know, the "kitchen" at Wendy's, BK, Hardee's/etc. might be just as bad as McD's but I don't get hit with the same smell when I walk into those places.

you bring up a good point, my GF always has me order her Quarter Pounder with Big Mac Sauce, which is the same junk In N Out uses. since I always order my Double Double with no sauce it's probably quite a bit better for me I can't stand that nasty ass Thousand Island on my burgers.

Slightly better:

DD - no spread
Cal: 590
Cal from fat: 290
Fat: 32
Sat Fat: 17

This makes it about 49% fat and is still slightly higher in fat per calorie and still more sat fat than McDonald's QP.

So there you have it, QueBert. When it comes to burgers, the only difference is taste. Most burgers are vitually identical in nutrition. Do not fool yourself into thinking one joint's burger is better for you than another's.

 

[VooDooAddict]

I have to agree that McD is some decent tasting food for the $$.

However it's how I feel after eating it that bothers me and why I only eat there if my other fast option is some smelly privately owned joint whom you know isn't as worried about cleanliness and age of their ingredients, let alone any trans fats and hydrogenated oils.

Soon McD is supposed to be using non-trans fats and non-hydrogenated oils.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: VooDooAddict
I have to agree that McD is some decent tasting food for the $$.

However it's how I feel after eating it that bothers me and why I only eat there if my other fast option is some smelly privately owned joint whom you know isn't as worried about cleanliness and age of their ingredients, let alone any trans fats and hydrogenated oils.

Soon McD is supposed to be using non-trans fats and non-hydrogenated oils.

Why do you list these as if they are two differnt things?

 

[torpid]

People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

Lets' look at Jack in the Boxes buns, shall we?

Bun, Regular Enriched Flour [Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Folic Acid], Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Yeast. Contains 2% or less of each of the following: Vegetable Oil (Canola and/or Soybean), Wheat Gluten, Salt, Yeast Nutrients (Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Sulfate, Ammonium Sulfate).
Due to the use of regional bakeries, may also contain one or more of the following: Soy Lecithin (used in a processing aid), Calcium Peroxide, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dough Conditioners (Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, L-Cysteine, Ascorbic Acid, Azodicarbonamide, Calcium Iodate, Calcium Dioxide, Diammonium Phosphate, Tricalcium Phosphate, DATEM, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate), Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Cornstarch, Alpha Amylase, Polysorbate 80, Malted Barley Flour, Vinegar, Enzymes. Contains Wheat, Soy

Bun, Jumbo Enriched Flour [Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Folic Acid], Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Yeast. Contains 2% or less of each of the following: Vegetable Oil (Canola and/or Soybean) Wheat Gluten, Salt, Yeast Nutrients (Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Sulfate, Ammonium Sulfate), Yellow Corn Flour, Turmeric (color), Paprika (color), Glycerol Monooleate, Polysorbate 60, Natural Flavor, Calcium Propionate (preservative).Topped with Sesame Seeds.
Due to the use of regional bakeries, may also contain one or more of the following: Soy Lecithin (used in a processing aid), Annato (color), Calcium Peroxide, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dough Conditioners (Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, L-Cysteine, Ascorbic Acid, Azodicarbonamide, Calcium Iodate, Calcium Dioxide, Diammonium Phosphate, Tricalcium Phosphate, DATEM, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate), Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Cornstarch, Alpha Amylase, Polysorbate 80, Malted Barley Flour, Vinegar, Enzymes. Contains Wheat, Soy

So much for your trans fat free burger there. Jack in the Box buns have trans fats. In fact, they have anywhere from 1 - 4-5 grams of trans fats.

Jumbo Jack with cheese:

Cal: 690
Cal from fat: 370
Total Fat: 42
Sat Fat: 16
Trans Fat: 1.5

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

I'm convinced, if a bitchin guy like you says it's ok to pig out on fast food who am I to question you? After all you are an elite body builder and a guy who seems to know everything about everything (well at least from the tone of most of your posts)!

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: ric1287
"you know what would be good on this hamburger? A ham sandwich! And while we are at it, instead of buns lets use donuts."

The Luther?!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

I'm convinced, if a bitchin guy like you says it's ok to pig out on fast food who am I to question you? After all you are an elite body builder and a guy who seems to know everything about everything (well at least from the tone of most of your posts)!

Where have I said it's OK to pig out on fast food?

I am dispelling the myth that McDonald's is somehow worse for you than the identical foods elsewhere.

Sorry my facts upset you, Red.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

i dont hate mcdonalds
therefore your premis is flawed
thus this whole thread is useless

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

I'm convinced, if a bitchin guy like you says it's ok to pig out on fast food who am I to question you? After all you are an elite body builder and a guy who seems to know everything about everything (well at least from the tone of most of your posts)!

Where have I said it's OK to pig out on fast food?

I am dispelling the myth that McDonald's is somehow worse for you than the identical foods elsewhere.

Sorry my facts upset you, Red.

No your words set me free. Now I iknow I can eat all that crap and still be an elite BB just like you. To think all this time i was eating healthy, how silly of me!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

I'm convinced, if a bitchin guy like you says it's ok to pig out on fast food who am I to question you? After all you are an elite body builder and a guy who seems to know everything about everything (well at least from the tone of most of your posts)!

Where have I said it's OK to pig out on fast food?

I am dispelling the myth that McDonald's is somehow worse for you than the identical foods elsewhere.

Sorry my facts upset you, Red.

No your words set me free. Now I iknow I can eat all that crap and still be an elite BB just like you. To think all this time i was eating healthy, how silly of me!

Who said I eat burgers everyday? I have a couple burgers a week, at most.

Only a mentally handicapped person would see my points in this thread as advocating a constant diet of burgers and fries.

Again, my entire argument in this thread is to dispell the myth that McDonald's is worse for you then the identical food cooked elsewhere. NO WHERE have I said burgers and fries are healthy.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: torpid
People hate McDonalds because it is the public face of the fast food industry in general. Anyone who thinks it is significantly worse than other fast food places is deluded. Most likely it is the same or better, because it is such a huge bullseye for lawsuits and complaints. But that doesn't mean that it's invalid to challenge mcdonalds' practices, because as the largest fast food chain, they set the trends and have massive influence over the market.

Obviously not as many people care if Culvers or In-n-Out, regional and hardly international, do something bad. But if a huge chain like mcdonalds advertises that their french fries are vegeterian when they aren't, or that they will reduce trans fats in their oils and don't, it's a lot more visible and thus has a greater impact.

I personally think it's good that people target mcdonalds because whenever some issue comes up, mcdonalds generally changes their policies, which influences their competitors to do the same.

I would disagree with you, a lot of their items still have Trans Fat, there are plenty of fast food places who stuff contains 0 trans fat. 1.5 grams of trans fat daily doubles your risk of heart failure. 1.5g is how much a Quarter Pounder has. I had Jack In The Box last night, while it's very unhealthy, my burger had no Trans Fat. So regardless of if the burger I had was similar in saturated fats and sodium and all that, it had no T.F's and those are the ones they're banning all over the place

Ever stop to wonder why In-n-Out doesn't list trans fats in their nutritional info?

The trans fats in most burgers come from the bread... and most white breads in supermarkets have trans fats.

BTW, sweating over 1.5 grams of trans fats while woofing down 17 grams of saturated fats is kinda silly.

I'm convinced, if a bitchin guy like you says it's ok to pig out on fast food who am I to question you? After all you are an elite body builder and a guy who seems to know everything about everything (well at least from the tone of most of your posts)!

Where have I said it's OK to pig out on fast food?

I am dispelling the myth that McDonald's is somehow worse for you than the identical foods elsewhere.

Sorry my facts upset you, Red.

No your words set me free. Now I iknow I can eat all that crap and still be an elite BB just like you. To think all this time i was eating healthy, how silly of me!

Who said I eat burgers everyday? I have a couple burgers a week, at most.

Only a mentally handicapped person would see my points in this thread as advocating a constant diet of burgers and fries.

Again, my entire argument in this thread is to dispell the myth that McDonald's is worse for you then the identical food cooked elsewhere. NO WHERE have I said burgers and fries are healthy.

I know buddy but what you don't seem to understand is that your constant defense of McDonalds gives that impression.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
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I know buddy but what you don't seem to understand is that your constant defense of McDonalds gives that impression.[/quote]

Only if they're a fscking idiot.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
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I know buddy but what you don't seem to understand is that your constant defense of McDonalds gives that impression.

Only if they're a fscking idiot.[/quote]
No you are the fscking idiot if you don't see it. How hard is it for you to understand that when people criticize McDonalds they are usually talking about the whole Fast Food industry? McDonalds just happens to be the leader of that industry so they make a great target for the just criticism.